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FXHW60 PHFO 012002  
AFDHFO  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HONOLULU HI  
1000 AM HST SUN NOV 1 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
A CHANGE IN AIRMASS IS IN STORE AS A BOUNDARY NORTHWEST OF THE STATE  
MOVES SOUTHEAST EARLY THIS WEEK. IT WILL BRING A PERIOD OF SHOWERS  
MONDAY AND TUESDAY...FOLLOWED BY COOLER AIR BEHIND IT.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS A WEAKENING SHORTWAVE TROUGH 350 MILES  
WEST NORTHWEST OF KAUAI...AND A STRONGER DEVELOPING SHORTWAVE 800  
MILES NORTHWEST OF KAUAI. ACROSS THE FAR NORTHERN PACIFIC...ALONG  
170W JUST SOUTH OF 50N...THERE IS ANOTHER SYSTEM THAT MAY HAVE AN  
IMPACT ON THE STATE DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEK. VISIBLE AND  
IR IMAGERY SHOWS A RAGGED BAND OF CLOUDS NORTHWEST OF KAUAI  
ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAKENING STATIONARY FRONT...WITH MORE TYPICAL  
TRADE CONDITIONS ACROSS THE STATE. 12Z SOUNDINGS FROM LIHUE AND HILO  
SHOW INVERSIONS RUNNING 6-7KFT...WITH PRECIPITABLE WATERS RANGING  
FROM 1.1 AT LIHUE TO 1.4 AT HILO. THE AMSU/SSMI BLENDED TOTAL  
PRECIPITABLE WATER IMAGERY IS SIMILAR ACROSS THE STATE...WITH PW  
VALUES INCREASING TO 1.6-1.8 INCHES IN A BAND ALONG THE OLD FRONT.  
 
AS THE FARTHER NORTHWEST SYSTEM DIGS TOWARD THE STATE...IT WILL PICK  
UP THE WEAKER SYSTEM HELP TO REINVIGORATE THE SURFACE FRONT. THE 12Z  
GFS IS A BIT WEAKER AND SLOWER THAN EARLIER RUNS...BUT SHOWS THE  
BOUNDARY REACHING KAUAI MONDAY NIGHT AND PROGRESSING DOWN THE ISLAND  
CHAIN THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT. WHILE THIS FEATURE LOOKS MORE LIKE A  
SHEARLINE...WITH EASTERLY WINDS PRECEDING IT AND STRONGER  
NORTHEASTERLY WINDS FOLLOWING IT...THERE IS A CHANGE IN AIRMASS  
WITH 850MB TEMPERATURES DROPPING 2-3C BEHIND IT. WINDS WILL ALSO BE  
STRONGER BEHIND THE BOUNDARY AS THE COOLER AIR MOVING ACROSS WARMER  
WATER LEADS TO MORE UNSTABLE CONDITIONS AND GREATER MIXING WITHIN  
THE BOUNDARY LAYER. THE HIGHER RESOLUTION NAM AND RSM SEEM TO HAVE A  
BETTER HANDLE ON THE WINDS THAN THE GFS.  
 
BY MIDWEEK...ATTENTION TURNS TO A DEVELOPING SYSTEM EAST OF THE  
STATE. THE SHORTWAVE CURRENTLY NEAR 50N MENTIONED ABOVE WILL DIG  
SOUTHEASTWARD AND EVENTUALLY CUTOFF. THIS IS THE SYSTEM THAT THE  
EXTENDED MODELS HAVE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE PAST FEW DAYS. THE  
12Z GFS HAS CONTINUED THE TREND OF ITS RECENT RUNS...DEVELOPING THE  
LOW FARTHER EAST AWAY FROM THE STATE. THE 12Z ENSEMBLES STILL SHOW  
10-15 DEGREES OF SPREAD LONGITUDINALLY AS TO WHERE THE LOW WILL  
DEVELOP...WHICH IS BETTER THAN THE 30-40 DEGREES OF SPREAD FROM  
EARLIER RUNS. THE ENSEMBLES BREAK DOWN INTO TWO MAIN GROUPS...A MORE  
CUTOFF/MORE WESTERLY ONE WHICH INCLUDES THE OPERATIONAL RUN AND A  
MORE PROGRESSIVE/MORE EASTERLY ONE. EITHER WAY...IT PLACES HAWAII  
MORE SOLIDLY IS A PERSISTENT NORTHEASTERLY FLOW THAN EARLIER RUNS.  
THE 12Z ECMWF ALSO SHOWS THE SAME TREND...DEVELOPING THE CUTOFF LOW  
FARTHER EAST AND KEEPING US UNDER STRONGER NORTHEASTERLIES. GIVEN  
THE CONSISTENT TREND OF THE EXTENDED MODELS...WITH ADJUST THE  
FORECAST TOWARD THIS SOLUTION.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
THE WAIMEA BAY BUOY HAS BEEN RUNNING 9-10 FEET/17-18 SECONDS THIS  
MORNING...WHICH IS STILL A FEW FEET HIGHER THAN THE 12Z WAVEWATCH  
III GUIDANCE. OBSERVERS FROM THE NORTH SHORE OF OAHU REPORT SURF OF  
UP TO 20 FEET...IN LINE WITH THE GOING HIGH SURF ADVISORY. WW3 SHOWS  
THE CURRENT SWELL SLOWLY SUBSIDING ON MONDAY. IN ADDITION...WITH THE  
HIGHER SWELL AND HIGHER SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHTS...WE HAVE ISSUED A  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR 10 FOOT SEAS FOR THE NORTHWEST COASTAL  
WATERS THROUGH TONIGHT.  
 
IN ADDITION TO THE SEAS...WINDS WILL INCREASE TO SMALL CRAFT  
ADVISORY LEVELS OF 25 KNOTS BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. WINDS WILL BE  
STRONGEST AGAIN ACROSS NORTHWEST WATERS...WHERE THE FRONT WILL HAVE  
THE MOST STRENGTH. THE MORNING QUIKSCAT PASS SHOWED WINDS OF +25  
KNOTS BEHIND THE BOUNDARY...AND 12Z NAM/RSM SHOW WINDS OF THIS  
STRENGTH REACHING KAUAI LATE MONDAY.  
 
 
   
HFO WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
HIGH SURF ADVISORY FOR NORTH AND WEST FACING SHORES OF NIIHAU KAUAI  
AND OAHU UNTIL 6 PM MONDAY.  
 
HIGH SURF ADVISORY FOR NORTH FACING SHORES OF MOLOKAI AND MAUI UNTIL  
6 PM MONDAY.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM HST THIS EVENING FOR KAUAI  
NORTHWEST WATERS-KAUAI WINDWARD WATERS-KAUAI LEEWARD WATERS-  
KAUAI CHANNEL-OAHU WINDWARD WATERS.  
 
 
 
 
 
BRAVENDER  
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