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FXHW60 PHFO 020131  
AFDHFO  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HONOLULU HI  
330 PM HST SUN NOV 1 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
A COLD FRONT WILL BE MOVING ACROSS THE STATE EARLY THIS WEEK  
BRINGING SHOWERS AND A CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS. DRIER AIR...COOLER  
TEMPERATURES AND BREEZY NORTHEAST WINDS WILL FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY  
BEHIND THE FRONT. WINDS AND WEATHER WILL GRADUALLY TREND BACK TO A  
MORE SEASONAL TRADE WIND PATTERN FRIDAY INTO THE WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY BIG CHANGES IN THE FORECAST REASONING FROM  
EARLIER IN THE SHIFT. SATELLITE DERIVED PRECIPITABLE WATER IMAGERY  
DEPICTS RELATIVELY DRY AIR BEING ADVECTED OVER THE STATE IN THE  
TRADE WINDS. COMBINED WITH A SUBSIDENCE/TRADE WIND INVERSION BETWEEN  
6-7 KFT ONLY LIGHT SCATTERED SHOWERS ARE EXPECTED ALONG WINDWARD AND  
MOUNTAIN TERRAIN OVERNIGHT. SATELLITE IMAGERY ALSO SHOWS AN AXIS OF  
HIGHER PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES NEARLY STATIONARY JUST NORTHWEST OF  
THE KAUAI WHICH WILL WORK ITS WAY SOUTHEASTWARD LATER TONIGHT AS IT  
INTERACTS WITH ANOTHER PASSING SHORTWAVE TROUGH. PWAT VALUES AROUND  
KAUAI WILL BEGIN TO RISE SIGNIFICANTLY AFTER MIDNIGHT ALONG WITH  
BACKING WINDS TO THE NORTHEAST AS THE REMNANT FRONTAL MOISTURE TO  
THE NORTHWEST IS REINFORCED AND BEGINS MOVING SOUTHEASTWARD AGAIN AS  
A COLD FRONT. THE FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE STATE DURING THE FIRST  
HALF OF THE WEEK BRINGING WIDESPREAD RAINFALL AND THE POSSIBILITY OF  
THUNDERSTORMS TO KAUAI/OAHU/MAUI COUNTIES MAINLY MONDAY AND TUESDAY.  
ANOTHER POTENT SHORTWAVE TROUGH CAN BE SEEN DIVING OUT OF THE BERING  
SEA RIGHT NOW. THIS WILL INTENSIFY FURTHER AS IT PROGRESSES  
SOUTHEAST PROVIDING ADDITIONAL COLD AIR ADVECTION TO PUSH THE FRONT  
TO THE BIG ISLAND LATE TUESDAY NIGHT/EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING WHERE  
IT WILL SLOWLY WASH-OUT. CONDITIONS BEHIND THE FRONT WILL SEEM  
NOTICEABLY COOLER AND WINDIER AS DRIER MID-LATITUDE AIRMASS MOVES  
OVER THE STATE. THE CURRENT FORECAST DOES LOOK ON TRACK FOR THE  
FRONTAL PASSAGE.  
 
THE AFOREMENTIONED 500 MB SHORTWAVE DIVING OUT OF THE BERING SEA IS  
EXPECTED TO CUT-OFF AND BECOME NEARLY STATIONARY NORTHEAST OF THE  
STATE AS IT OCCLUDES. THE GFS/GFS ENSEMBLES AND ECMWF SOLUTIONS  
REMAIN IN FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT REGARDING THE OVERALL TRAJECTORY...  
PROPAGATION...AND PASSING OF SHALLOW FRONTAL BANDS IN THE  
NORTHEASTERLY FLOW WHICH SHOULD CONTINUE INTO AT LEAST THURSDAY.  
TRADES WILL RETURN TO A MORE SEASONAL ROUTINE FRIDAY INTO THE  
WEEKEND...MAYBE AS EARLY AS LATE THURSDAY.  
 

 
   
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION
 
/ISSUED 1000 AM HST SUNDAY/  
WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS A WEAKENING SHORTWAVE TROUGH 350 MILES  
WEST NORTHWEST OF KAUAI...AND A STRONGER DEVELOPING SHORTWAVE 800  
MILES NORTHWEST OF KAUAI. ACROSS THE FAR NORTHERN PACIFIC...ALONG  
170W JUST SOUTH OF 50N...THERE IS ANOTHER SYSTEM THAT MAY HAVE AN  
IMPACT ON THE STATE DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEK. VISIBLE AND  
IR IMAGERY SHOWS A RAGGED BAND OF CLOUDS NORTHWEST OF KAUAI  
ASSOCIATED WITH A WEAKENING STATIONARY FRONT...WITH MORE TYPICAL  
TRADE CONDITIONS ACROSS THE STATE. 12Z SOUNDINGS FROM LIHUE AND HILO  
SHOW INVERSIONS RUNNING 6-7KFT...WITH PRECIPITABLE WATERS RANGING  
FROM 1.1 AT LIHUE TO 1.4 AT HILO. THE AMSU/SSMI BLENDED TOTAL  
PRECIPITABLE WATER IMAGERY IS SIMILAR ACROSS THE STATE...WITH PW  
VALUES INCREASING TO 1.6-1.8 INCHES IN A BAND ALONG THE OLD FRONT.  
 
AS THE FARTHER NORTHWEST SYSTEM DIGS TOWARD THE STATE...IT WILL PICK  
UP THE WEAKER SYSTEM HELP TO REINVIGORATE THE SURFACE FRONT. THE 12Z  
GFS IS A BIT WEAKER AND SLOWER THAN EARLIER RUNS...BUT SHOWS THE  
BOUNDARY REACHING KAUAI MONDAY NIGHT AND PROGRESSING DOWN THE ISLAND  
CHAIN THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT. WHILE THIS FEATURE LOOKS MORE LIKE A  
SHEARLINE...WITH EASTERLY WINDS PRECEDING IT AND STRONGER  
NORTHEASTERLY WINDS FOLLOWING IT...THERE IS A CHANGE IN AIRMASS  
WITH 850MB TEMPERATURES DROPPING 2-3C BEHIND IT. WINDS WILL ALSO BE  
STRONGER BEHIND THE BOUNDARY AS THE COOLER AIR MOVING ACROSS WARMER  
WATER LEADS TO MORE UNSTABLE CONDITIONS AND GREATER MIXING WITHIN  
THE BOUNDARY LAYER. THE HIGHER RESOLUTION NAM AND RSM SEEM TO HAVE A  
BETTER HANDLE ON THE WINDS THAN THE GFS.  
 
BY MIDWEEK...ATTENTION TURNS TO A DEVELOPING SYSTEM EAST OF THE  
STATE. THE SHORTWAVE CURRENTLY NEAR 50N MENTIONED ABOVE WILL DIG  
SOUTHEASTWARD AND EVENTUALLY CUTOFF. THIS IS THE SYSTEM THAT THE  
EXTENDED MODELS HAVE BEEN HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE PAST FEW DAYS. THE  
12Z GFS HAS CONTINUED THE TREND OF ITS RECENT RUNS...DEVELOPING THE  
LOW FARTHER EAST AWAY FROM THE STATE. THE 12Z ENSEMBLES STILL SHOW  
10-15 DEGREES OF SPREAD LONGITUDINALLY AS TO WHERE THE LOW WILL  
DEVELOP...WHICH IS BETTER THAN THE 30-40 DEGREES OF SPREAD FROM  
EARLIER RUNS. THE ENSEMBLES BREAK DOWN INTO TWO MAIN GROUPS...A MORE  
CUTOFF/MORE WESTERLY ONE WHICH INCLUDES THE OPERATIONAL RUN AND A  
MORE PROGRESSIVE/MORE EASTERLY ONE. EITHER WAY...IT PLACES HAWAII  
MORE SOLIDLY IS A PERSISTENT NORTHEASTERLY FLOW THAN EARLIER RUNS.  
THE 12Z ECMWF ALSO SHOWS THE SAME TREND...DEVELOPING THE CUTOFF LOW  
FARTHER EAST AND KEEPING US UNDER STRONGER NORTHEASTERLIES. GIVEN  
THE CONSISTENT TREND OF THE EXTENDED MODELS...WITH ADJUST THE  
FORECAST TOWARD THIS SOLUTION.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
LARGE HEAVY SURF CONTINUES TO POUND NORTH FACING SHORES THIS  
AFTERNOON. BUOY DATA AND OBSERVATIONS STILL SUPPORT THE CURRENT HIGH  
SURF ADVISORY. SURF IS STILL WELL ABOVE THE ADVISORY LEVEL OF 15  
FEET. SURF WILL CONTINUE TO REACH UP TO 20 FEET THROUGH THE  
REMAINDER OF THE DAYLIGHT HOURS TODAY AS A SLOW DOWNWARD TREND  
BEGINS OVERNIGHT. THE ADVISORY STILL EXPIRES MONDAY EVENING AT 6 PM  
HST...EXCEPT HAVE TRIMMED THE EXPIRATION TIME FOR WEST FACING OAHU  
BACK TO 6 AM HST MONDAY MORNING. IN ADDITION...WITH THE HIGHER SWELL  
AND HIGHER SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHTS...WE HAVE ISSUED A SMALL CRAFT  
ADVISORY FOR 10 FOOT SEAS FOR THE NORTHWEST COASTAL WATERS THROUGH  
TONIGHT.  
 
WINDS WILL INCREASE TO SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LEVELS OF 25 KNOTS  
BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. WINDS WILL BE STRONGEST AGAIN ACROSS  
NORTHWEST WATERS...WHERE THE FRONT WILL HAVE THE MOST STRENGTH. THE  
MORNING QUIKSCAT PASS SHOWED WINDS OF 25 KNOTS BEHIND THE  
BOUNDARY...AND 12Z NAM/RSM SHOW WINDS OF THIS STRENGTH REACHING  
KAUAI LATE MONDAY.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
VFR CONTINUES FOR THE TERMINALS THIS AFTERNOON. ONLY ISOLATED LIGHT  
SHRA IS AFFECTING WINDWARD TERRAIN. ANY MVFR CIGS/VIS ARE MINIMAL  
AND SHORT LIVED RIGHT NOW. CHANCES FOR MORE WIDESPREAD FLIGHT  
RESTRICTIONS WILL COME LATER TONIGHT AND INTO MONDAY AS A FRONT  
APPROACHES FROM THE NORTHWEST. EXPECTING STRONGER NORTHEAST WINDS  
BEHIND THE FRONT AS WELL CAPABLE OF PRODUCING GUSTS OVER 30 KT  
PRODUCING SIGNIFICANT LOW LEVEL TURB. AS THE FRONT PASSES...MOUNTAIN  
OBSCURATION MAY ALSO BECOME AN ISSUE.  
 

 
   
HFO WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
HIGH SURF ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM HST MONDAY FOR NIIHAU-KAUAI  
WINDWARD-KAUAI LEEWARD-WAIANAE COAST-OAHU NORTH SHORE-OAHU  
KOOLAU-MOLOKAI-MAUI WINDWARD WEST-MAUI CENTRAL VALLEY-WINDWARD  
HALEAKALA.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM HST THIS EVENING FOR KAUAI  
NORTHWEST WATERS-KAUAI WINDWARD WATERS-KAUAI LEEWARD WATERS-  
KAUAI CHANNEL-OAHU WINDWARD WATERS.  
 

 
 

 
 
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