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FXHW60 PHFO 031439 AAA  
AFDHFO  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HONOLULU HI  
440 AM HST TUE NOV 3 2009  
   
UPDATE
 
 
SHOWER ACTIVITY IS BECOMING MORE WIDESPREAD OVER THE NORTHERN  
PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA...EVEN MORE THAN ANTICIPATED JUST AN  
HOUR OR TWO AGO. RAISED POPS TO 50-70 PERCENT FOR KAUAI/OAHU AND  
SURROUNDING COASTAL WATERS FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE DAY.  
ELSEWHERE...THE FORECAST IS LOOKING IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE.  
 

 
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
MODERATE TRADE WINDS WILL BRING SHOWERS TO WINDWARD AND MAUKA AREAS  
TODAY...BEFORE A COLD FRONT USHERS IN A WEATHER CHANGE TUESDAY AND  
TUESDAY NIGHT. THE FRONT WILL BRING ADDITIONAL SHOWERS TO MOST  
ISLANDS AS IT MOVES DOWN THE ISLAND CHAIN. STRONG NORTHEAST WINDS  
AND COOLER DRIER AIR WILL FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THE FRONT. A  
RETURN TO TRADE WIND WEATHER IS EXPECTED FOR THE SECOND HALF OF THE  
WEEK. ANOTHER COLD FRONT MAY APPROACH THE ISLANDS EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
NO BIG CHANGES TO THE FORECAST TONIGHT. WINDWARD OAHU REMAINS THE  
TARGET FOR THE HEAVIEST RAINFALL EARLY THIS MORNING. MODERATE  
SHOWERS CONTINUE TO TRAIN OVER THE AREA IN THE TRADE WIND FLOW.  
RADAR AND A FEW GAGES ARE INDICATING RAINFALL RATES OF 1-2 INCHES  
PER HOUR IN THE HEAVIEST SHOWERS. THE FAST MOVING AND SCATTERED  
NATURE OF THE SHOWERS KEEPS ANY MINOR FLOODING POTENTIAL TO A  
MINIMUM...IF IT REALLY EXISTS AT ALL TONIGHT. BASED ON A QUICK  
GLANCE UPSTREAM...IT LOOKS LIKE THERES MORE TO FOLLOW...POSSIBLY  
EVEN FOR KAUAI A LITTLE LATER TODAY. DID MAKE A FEW TWEAKS TO THE  
NEAR TERM GRIDS TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS. ELSEWHERE THERE ARE MORE  
MODERATE TO HEAVY SHOWERS WEST OF KAUAI NEAR ALONG THE REMNANT  
STALLED FRONT WHERE THE BOUNDARY LAYER REMAINS RICH IN  
MOISTURE/THETAE.  
 
THAT SAME STALLED BOUNDARY IS STILL EXPECTED TO PICK UP THE PACE AND  
MOVE ITS WAY INTO THE AREA SOMETIME TOMORROW NIGHT. DIDNT MAKE ANY  
CHANGES TO THE TIMING OTHER THAN SOME MINOR HOUSECLEANING TO THE  
GRIDS. STILL EXPECTING STRONGER WINDS IN EXCESS OF 25 MPH AND THAT  
COOLER MID LATITUDE AIR TO FILTER IN BEHIND THE FRONT MID WEEK.  
WINDS WILL VEER EASTERLY AND DIMINISH INTO THE SECOND HALF OF THE  
WORK WEEK. SHOWER FOCUS WILL RETURN MAINLY TO WINDWARD TERRAIN...  
POTENTIALLY WITH HIGHER POPS FOR AREAS IN THE VICINITY OF THE  
WEAKENING BOUNDARY AND REMNANT POOLED MOISTURE.  
 
GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO AGREE ON THE SAME HEIGHT TRENDS ACROSS MOST OF  
THE NORTH PACIFIC. LATE IN THE WORK WEEK INTO THE WEEKEND MODELS  
STILL SUGGEST STRONG HEIGHT RISES OFF THE ASIAN EAST COAST WHICH  
DOES SUPPORT DOWNSTREAM TROUGH AMPLIFICATION OVER THE CENTRAL  
PACIFIC. WITH HIGH PRESSURE SHIFTING NORTHEAST OF HAWAII..FURTHER  
VEERING TO THE TRADES IS LIKELY OVER THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT  
WEEK..ALONG WITH A POTENTIAL FRONTAL PASSAGE IN THE MONDAY/TUESDAY  
TIME FRAME. GIVEN MODERATE CONFIDENCE AND GLOBAL MODEL  
AGREEMENT...DID TREND THE LATTER PART OF THE FORECAST AND ADDITION  
OF DAY 7 TOWARDS THIS SOLUTION.  
 

 
   
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/ISSUED 800 PM HST MONDAY NIGHT/  
THE FORECAST IS LOOKING IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE TO START THE NIGHT  
SHIFT. THERE HASNT BEEN MUCH CHANGE IN THE OVERALL FORECAST  
REASONING THROUGH THE SHORT TERM. WIDESPREAD SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH  
TIGHT LOW LEVEL TROUGH MOVING EAST WITH THE TRADES CONTINUES TO  
AFFECT OAHU AND SHOULD CONTINUE THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT. MAY HAVE  
TO MAKE A QUICK UPDATE TO THE POP/WX/QPF GRIDS OVER THE NEXT FEW  
HOURS.  
 
THE NEARLY STATIONARY AXIS OF HIGH PRECIPITABLE WATER OF UP TO 2.0  
INCHES...IS SHOWING ONLY LITTLE PROGRESSION TOWARD THE STATE RIGHT  
NOW. THE FRONT IS STILL EXPECTED TO REACH KAUAI SOMETIME TOMORROW  
NIGHT BRINGING SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SHOWERS IS CONTINUES TO CRAWL  
SOUTHWARD ACROSS THE STATE. STILL HAVE A SLIGHT CHANCE OF  
THUNDERSTORMS IN THE GRIDS RIGHT NOW AS WELL. LOOKING  
NORTHWEST...SEEING NO LIGHTNING ACTIVITY WITH HIGHEST TOPPED  
CONVECTION WELL TO THE NORTH WHERE THE DYNAMICS ARE MORE FAVORABLE.  
NOT SEEING MAJOR FALLS IN 500 MB TEMPS OR IMPRESSIVE 700-500 MB  
LAPSE RATES. AM CONSIDERING REMOVING THE THUNDERSTORMS FROM THE  
GRIDS AT THIS POINT. GUSTY WINDS AROUND 20 TO 25 KT OR MORE ARE  
EXPECTED IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE FRONT ALONG WITH COOLER DRIER MID  
LATITUDE AIR ADVECTING OVER THE STATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT AS THE FRONT  
SAGS SOUTHWARD WHILE SLOWLY WASHING OUT THROUGH MID WEEK.  
 
INTO THE LONGER TERM THERE ISNT TOO MUCH CHANGE FROM THE DAY SHIFT  
EITHER. AS THE AFOREMENTIONED COLD FRONT DROPS SOUTHWARD ACROSS THE  
STATE THE ATTENDANT LOW WILL LIFT NORTHEAST. WINDS WILL VEER BACK TO  
THE EAST-NORTHEAST AS HEIGHTS/PRESSURES STEADILY RISE TO THE NORTH  
AND NORTHEAST OF THE STATE. ANOTHER SHALLOW REMNANT FRONTAL BAND MAY  
APPROACH THE STATE LATE THURSDAY...BUT CONFIDENCE IN THIS FEATURE IS  
LOW RIGHT NOW. ITS AFFECTS WOULD LIKELY JUST BE MORE SHOWERS FOR  
WINDWARD TERRAIN. THE GFS AND ECMWF DOING THEIR BEST TO MAINTAIN  
AGREEMENT IN THE LARGER SCALE HEIGHT PATTERN ACROSS THE NORTH  
PACIFIC PINCHING OFF A CUT-OFF LOW JUST WEST OF THE STATE TUESDAY  
EVENING...THEN MOVING IT SLOWLY WESTWARD. ITS EFFECTS ON SENSIBLE  
WEATHER LOCALLY LOOK MINIMAL AS OF NOW. GLOBAL GUIDANCE IS  
SUGGESTING HEIGHT FALLS AGAIN NORTHWEST OF THE STATE OVER THE  
CENTRAL NORTH PACIFIC DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE WEEK. THERE IS  
DIVERGENCE AMONG MODEL SOLUTIONS IN THE AMPLITUDE AND EASTWARD  
PROGRESSION OF THE TROUGHING. HOWEVER...THIS WOULD SUGGEST VEERING  
TRADES AGAIN OVER THE WEEKEND...ALONG WITH ANOTHER FRONTAL APPROACH  
POSSIBLE SOMETIME VERY EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
THE CURRENT NORTHWEST SWELL WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH. A MIX OF  
SHORT AND LONG PERIOD NORTH PACIFIC SWELL WILL BUILD OVER THE FEW  
DAYS AGAIN INTO MID WEEK. SOUTH FACING SHORES WILL ALSO SEE AN  
INCREASE IN SOUTHERN HEMI SWELL AGAIN DURING THE SECOND HALF OF THE  
WEEK. MORE SWELL LOOKS LIKELY AROUND THE 10TH. PLEASE CHECK OUT THE  
FRESHLY UPDATED SURF FORECAST FOR MORE DETAILS ON THE LONG RANGE.  
 
A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT FOR THE TYPICALLY WINDIER  
LOCATIONS NEAR THE BIG ISLAND. GIVEN THE SLOWER APPROACH OF THE  
FRONT...HAVE DELAYED THE INCREASE IN WIND SPEEDS ACROSS THE  
NORTHWEST COASTAL WATERS UNTIL TUESDAY/TUESDAY NIGHT. HOWEVER...A  
SOLID 25 KNOTS OF WINDS ARE EXPECTED WITH THE FRONT. HAVE EXPANDED  
THE SMALL CRAFT TO INCLUDE WATERS NEAR KAUAI BEGINNING ON TUESDAY.  
 

 
   
HFO WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM HST WEDNESDAY FOR ALENUIHAHA  
CHANNEL-BIG ISLAND LEEWARD WATERS-BIG ISLAND SOUTHEAST WATERS.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 6 AM TODAY TO 6 AM HST WEDNESDAY FOR  
KAUAI NORTHWEST WATERS-KAUAI WINDWARD WATERS-KAUAI LEEWARD  
WATERS-KAUAI CHANNEL.  
 

 
 

 
 
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