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FXHW60 PHFO 041531 AAA  
AFDHFO  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED AVIATION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HONOLULU HI  
532 AM HST WED NOV 4 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS
 
 
THE DEVELOPING UPPER LEVEL LOW WEST OF KAUAI WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE  
WESTWARD ALLOWING FOR MORE SUN TO BREAK THROUGH TODAY. TRADE WINDS  
WILL CONTINUE TO FOCUS SHOWERS OVER WINDWARD AND MOUNTAIN AREAS OVER  
THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS. WINDS WILL BECOME MORE SOUTHEASTERLY OVER THE  
WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
THE FORECAST LOOKS IN PRETTY GOOD SHAPE TO START WEDNESDAY. SHOWERS  
ARE STARTING TO EASE UP AS SOME SLIGHTLY DRIER AREA BEGINS TO NOSE  
INTO THE AREA AS INDICATED IN THE PRECIPITABLE WATER IMAGERY. THE  
UPPER LOW TO OUR WEST CONTINUES TO WRAP UP AS IT SLIDES WESTWARD. IT  
IS CARRYING THE HIGHER LEVEL CIRRUS AWAY FROM THE STATE AS WELL.  
THIS SHOULD LEAVE SKIES GENERALLY ON THE SUNNIER SIDE AROUND  
DAYBREAK WHILE WINDWARD AND MOUNTAIN AREAS STILL HAVE MOSTLY CLOUDY  
SKIES.  
 
ANOTHER SLOWLY DISSIPATING FRONTAL BAND CAN BE SEEN JUST NORTH OF  
THE STATE IN MOST SATELLITE PRODUCTS. THIS SHOULD BEGIN TO IMPACT  
THE AREA LATER THIS AFTERNOON. DID ADJUST POPS ACCORDINGLY FOR THE  
SMALLER ISLANDS. THE BIG ISLAND MAY SEE INCREASED WINDWARD SHOWERS  
TONIGHT WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE OF A FEW SHOWERS REACHING  
INTERIOR/SUMMITS WITH THE WEAKLY CAPPED ATMOSPHERE AND ELEVATED  
INVERSION.  
 
WITH HIGH PRESSURE NORTH OF THE STATE...SLOWLY MIGRATING  
EAST...STILL CALLING FOR TRADES AND A WINDWARD FOCUSED POP REGIME  
THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE WORK WEEK. PRESSURE/HEIGHT RISES  
NORTHEAST OF THE STATE COMBINED WITH THE INVERTED SURFACE TROUGH  
ASSOCIATED WITH UPPER LOW JUST TO OUR WEST WILL LEAD TO VEERED  
EAST/EAST-SOUTHEAST TRADES THIS WEEKEND.  
 
THE LONGER TERM FORECAST TO FINISH OUT THE WEEKEND INTO NEXT WEEK  
WAS AND REMAINS A CHALLENGE. GLOBAL MODELS ARE ALMOST COMPLETELY OUT  
OF PHASE IN THE VICINITY OF HAWAII COME EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH  
SOMEWHAT SPLIT ENSEMBLE SUPPORT. DID HAVE TO SHIFT THE FORECAST  
TOWARD SOME DEGREE OF CLIMO AS MODEL VARIABILITY WAS TOO HIGH TO  
MAKE ANY CERTAIN CHANGES OR EVEN MAINTAIN CONTINUITY FOR DAYS 6 AND  
7. THE LONG RANGE FORECAST IS OF LOW CONFIDENCE RIGHT NOW AND WILL  
NEED TO BE FINE TUNED AS GUIDANCE RESOLVES SOME DIFFERENCES THROUGH  
THE PERIOD.  
 

 
   
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION
 
/ISSUED 800 PM HST TUESDAY NOV 3/  
THE FORECAST IS LOOKING OK TO START THE MID SHIFT. REGARDLESS OF  
ANY MINOR TWEAKS...IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY SHOWERY NIGHT IS IN STORE  
FOR MOST OF THE STATE...WITH THE BIG ISLAND STAYING THE DRIEST OF  
THE ISLANDS.  
 
NOT ANTICIPATING ANY BIG CHANGES TO THE FORECAST TONIGHT. DEEP  
LAYERED TROUGHING OVER THE EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC WILL KEEP HIGH  
PRESSURE NEARLY STATIONARY TO OUR NORTHWEST WITH ITS ATTENDANT RIDGE  
NORTHEAST OF HAWAII. THE INFRARED SATELLITE IMAGERY CLEARLY DEPICTS  
MID LEVEL CYCLOGENESIS JUST WEST OF THE STATE AT THIS TIME. AS OF  
NOW...GLOBAL SOLUTIONS ONLY DEVELOP A WEAK SURFACE REFLECTION AS THE  
UPPER LOW DRIFTS SLOWLY WESTWARD WHILE UNDERCUTTING THE DEEP LAYERED  
HIGH TO THE NORTH. AS THE LOW CONTINUES TO TRACK WEST...EXPECT  
RISING 500 MB HEIGHTS LOCALLY WHICH WILL STRENGTHEN THE LOW LEVEL  
SUBSIDENCE INVERSION AGAIN LIMITING THE VERTICAL DEVELOPMENT OF ANY  
SHOWERS. SHOWER ACTIVITY WILL BECOME EVEN MORE FOCUSED ON WINDWARD  
ZONES ALLOWING LEEWARD SECTIONS TO DRY OUT SOME COMPARED TO TODAY  
AND MONDAY.  
 
EXPECT TRADES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE WORK WEEK WITH INTERMITTENT  
PERIODS OF MORE PERSISTENT RAINFALL AS BANDS OF REMNANT FRONTAL  
MOISTURE PASS OVER THE AREA. DURING THE REMAINDER WEEK...  
PRESSURES/HEIGHTS WILL RISE OVER THE FAR EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC AS  
THE POLAR JET FLATTENS. THIS WILL ALLOW HIGH PRESSURE TO OUR  
NORTH TO SLIDE EASTWARD. ALONG WITH THE AFOREMENTIONED UPPER LOW AND  
ITS ASSOCIATED INVERTED SURFACE TROUGH...THIS WILL CAUSE TRADE WINDS  
TO BEGIN VEERING TO THE SOUTHEAST OVER THE WEEKEND. THE GFS AND  
ECMWF...ALONG WITH GFS ENSEMBLES SUGGEST HEIGHT FALLS OVER THE  
CENTRAL NORTH PACIFIC DUE TO A DEVELOPING SOUTHERN STREAM  
SHORTWAVE...ALTHOUGH GUIDANCE STILL HAS TO RESOLVE MODERATE  
DIFFERENCES REGARDING INTENSITY AND SURFACE FEATURES. CONFIDENCE IN  
SOUTHEASTERLY FLOW ACROSS THE STATE OVER THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT  
WEEK IS FAIR. IT IS FAR TOO EARLY TO DETERMINE ANY FRONTAL IMPACTS  
DURING THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK THOUGH. WILL REVISIT THIS TONIGHT  
FOR THE ADDITION OF DAY 7 TO THE GRIDS.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
/UPDATED 900 PM HST TUESDAY NIGHT/  
THE SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY/SCA HAS BEEN ADJUSTED DUE TO IMPROVING  
CONDITIONS AROUND KAUAI. THE SCA IS NOW FOR THE TYPICALLY WINDIER  
LOCATIONS IN THE VICINITY OF THE BIG ISLAND.  
 
SURF ALONG AROUND THE ISLAND SHOULD BE MORE TAME OVER THE NEXT  
SEVERAL DAYS. NORTH FACING EXPOSURES WILL SEE BUILDING SURF  
WEDNESDAY...REACHING UP TO DOUBLE OVERHEAD FOR STANDOUT  
REEFS/BEACHES THURSDAY. SHORTER PERIOD NORTH TO NORTHEAST SWELL WILL  
POTENTIALLY LEAD TO LUMPY MIXED UP CONDITIONS...WHICH SHOULD IMPROVE  
TO FINISH OUT THE REMAINDER OF THE WEEK. SOUTH FACING SHORES WILL  
BEGIN AN INCREASING TREND THURSDAY WITH MOST AREAS EXPECTED TO CLIP  
THE WAIST TO CHEST HIGH RANGE BY FRIDAY. TOP SOUTH FACING BREAKS  
WILL BE UP TO HEAD HIGH PLUS ON THE BETTER SET WAVES. GUIDANCE AND  
BUOYS INDICATE THAT THE SURF ON KAUAI HAS DROPPED BELOW ADVISORY  
LEVELS...BUT WILL STILL REMAIN ELEVATED TODAY POSSIBLY REACHING UP  
TO 12 FEET AT TIMES. THE ADVISORY WILL BE CANCELLED WITH THE MORNING  
FORECAST PACKAGE.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
THE TERMINALS ARE LOOKING AT MAINLY VFR CONDITIONS TODAY. PHNY MAY  
SEE SOME OF THE TYPICAL LOWER AFTERNOON CIGS DUE TO THE FIELD  
ELEVATION. MOST MVFR CONDITIONS WILL REMAIN MOSTLY CONTAINED  
ALONG/OVER WINDWARD AND MOUNTAIN TERRAIN. HIGHER BKN/OVC CIRRUS WILL  
THIN THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF THE DAY.  
 
THE DEVELOPING UPPER LOW WEST OF KAUAI CONTINUES TO MOVE WESTWARD.  
THE DIFFLUENT EXIT REGION OF THE 80-90KT IS SHIFTING TO THE WEST  
WITH IT. THE HIGH LEVEL TURBULENCE NOW BETWEEN FL190/FL250 SHOULD  
END OVER THE IMMEDIATE AREA AROUND SUNRISE AFT 04/15Z. TRADE WINDS  
NEAR THE SURFACE WILL CONTINUE TO PRODUCE LOW LEVEL TURBULENCE LEE  
OF THE KAUAI MOUNTAINS AOB 060 TODAY.  
 

 
   
HFO WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
HIGH SURF ADVISORY CANCELLED.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 PM HST THIS EVENING FOR ALENUIHAHA  
CHANNEL-BIG ISLAND SOUTHEAST WATERS.  
 

 
 

 
 
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