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FXUS66 KPQR 232251 CCA  
AFDPQR  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...CORRECTED  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE PORTLAND OR  
250 PM PST MON NOV 23 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS  
A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL SAG SE INTO NW OREGON TONIGHT.  
THE FRONT WILL STALL LATE TONIGHT...THEN LIFT NE AS A WARM FRONT ON  
TUE. THE NEXT FRONTAL SYSTEM IS NOT EXPECTED TO MOVE IN UNTIL LATE  
THURSDAY.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM  
NOT MUCH TO TALK ABOUT THROUGH WEDNESDAY. A WEAK FRONT  
OFFSHORE WILL BE THE MAIN THREAT FOR RAIN TONIGHT MAINLY OVER  
THE NW PART OF THE FORECAST AREA...WHERE ISENTROPIC LIFT IS BEST  
AHEAD OF THE WARM FRONT OFFSHORE.  
 
MODELS INDICATE A COLD FRONT SAGGING DOWN INTO THE REGION TONIGHT.  
WILL NEED TO INCLUDE POPS MOST NORTHERN AREAS TONIGHT AND  
EARLY TUE WITH BAROCLINIC ZONE OVER THE AREA...BUT WITH WEAK DYNAMICS  
POPS WILL BE LIMITED TO CHANCE. FRONT LIFTS BACK TO THE N LATE TUE  
AND TUE NIGHT WITH THE UPPER RIDGE REBOUNDING...RESULTING IN  
DIMINISHING POPS BY TUE NIGHT...AND A DRY DAY WED. WHICH WILL SET THE  
STAGE FOR SOME FOG IN THE VALLEYS WEDNESDAY MORNING. WOLFE  
   
LONG TERM  
THE MODELS SHOW A SYSTEM MOVING THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT  
AND FRIDAY THAT SHOWS SOME SIGNS OF SPLITTING WITH SOME OF THE  
ENERGY DIGGING INTO NORTHERN CALIFORNIA...SO AM NOT GOING QUITE AS  
CONSOLIDATED AS THE LATEST 12Z GFS MODEL. A TRAILING SHORT WAVE FROM  
THE NORTHWEST KEEPS A BIT OF PRECIPITATION GOING FRIDAY NIGHT INTO  
SATURDAY. THEN THE MODELS SHOW SOME RIDGING OVER THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST DUE TO A DIGGING/DEVELOPING SYSTEM OUT 140W. THIS SHOULD  
BRING DRYING WITH THE INCREASED POSSIBILITY OF VALLEY FOG. THE  
MODELS DIVERGE FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH THE LAST COUPLE OF ECMWF  
RUNS WHILE THE GFS IS DRY STILL. HOWEVER...THE GFS ENSEMBLES HAVE A  
VERY LARGE SPREAD AT THAT POINT. FOR NOW HAVE GONE WITH SOME POP FOR  
MONDAY BUT BELOW CLIMO TO ACCOUNT FOR THE ECMWF AND THE ENSEMBLE  
SPREAD. TOLLESON  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
A SLOW MOVING WARM FRONT ARRIVES AT THE PACIFIC NW COAST  
THIS AFTERNOON...BRINGING MVFR CONDITIONS AND AREAS OF LIGHT RAIN TO  
THE COAST THROUGH THE EVENING. INLAND VISIBILITIES REMAIN AT VFR  
EXCEPT SOME AREAS MAY FLIRT WITH MVFR THIS EVENING AS AREAS OF LIGHT  
RAIN MOVE INLAND...POSSIBLY AS EARLY AS 06Z. MVFR CIGS/VSBYS MAY  
LINGER WELL INTO THE DAY TUE...DUE TO ABUNDANT LOW LEVEL MOISTURE  
AND THE LACK OF SIGNIFICANT WIND TO MIX THE LOWER LAYERS.  
 
KPDX AND APPROACHES...VFR CONDITIONS TO REMAIN THROUGH 06Z TONIGHT.  
SOME LOCAL MVFR DEVELOPING LATER THIS EVENING AS AREAS OF LIGHT RAIN  
DEVELOP. AREAS MVFR MAY LINGER WELL INTO THE DAY TUE...BUT MAINLY  
OUTSIDE OF THE CITY. WEAGLE/LRAMIREZ  
 
 
   
MARINE...LOW PRESSURE IS MOVING INTO BRITISH COLUMBIA TODAY  
 
PUSHING A WARM FRONT INTO WASHINGTON AND OREGON. ASSOCIATED COLD  
FRONT EXTENDS SW FROM LOW AND WILL NOT DIRECTLY MOVE THROUGH WATERS  
UNTIL MIDWEEK. WINDS THUS FAR ASSOCIATED WITH THE FRONTAL SYSTEM  
HAVE REMAINED BELOW GALE...WITH MOST GUSTS AROUND 25 KNOTS. AS THE  
MAIN LOW TRAVELS FURTHER INLAND INTO CANADA...WINDS ASSOCIATED WITH  
THE FRONT WILL EASE BELOW SCA CRITERIA OVERNIGHT. SEAS APPEAR TO BE  
BRIEFLY FALLING BELOW 10 FT THIS AFTERNOON AT SOME LOCATIONS...BUT  
EXPECT WEST SWELL ASSOCIATED WITH THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TO PUSH  
SEAS BACK UP ABOVE 10 FT THIS EVENING. THUS WILL LEAVE SCA FOR HAZ  
SEAS IN EFFECT THROUGH TUE. THE RATHER LONG PERIOD SWELL IMPACTING  
THE BAR WILL CONTINUE ROUGH BAR CONDITIONS THROUGH TUE DESPITE THE  
WEAK EBBS. GENERALLY TRANQUIL WEATHER THEN EXPECTED INTO WED...THEN  
THE COLD FRONT WILL FINALLY SLIDE ACROSS THE COASTAL WATERS WED  
NIGHT/THU. SOME MODELS SHOW THE POSSIBILITY OF A STRONG LOW  
DEVELOPING ALONG THIS FRONT OFF THE OREGON COAST WED NIGHT OR EARLY  
THU...WILL NEED TO MONITOR THIS FOR POTENTIAL GALES DURING THAT TIME  
PERIOD. WEAGLE  
 
 
   
PQR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
WA/OR...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR HAZARDOUS SEAS CAPE SHOALWATER TO  
FLORENCE OUT 0-60 NM THROUGH TUE.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR ROUGH COLUMBIA RIVER BAR THROUGH  
TUE AFTERNOON.  
 
 
 
 
 
MORE WEATHER INFORMATION ONLINE AT...  
HTTP://WEATHER.GOV/PORTLAND  
 
THIS DISCUSSION IS FOR NORTHWEST OREGON AND SOUTHWEST WASHINGTON FROM  
THE CASCADE CREST TO 60 NAUTICAL MILES OFFSHORE. THE AREA IS COMMONLY  
REFERRED TO AS THE FORECAST AREA.  
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