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NOUS70 KSEW 242303  
OEPZSE  
 
TERMINAL FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CWSU AUBURN WA  
250 PM PST TUE NOV 24 2009  
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
THE MAIN WEATHER IMPACT WILL BE THE CEILINGS AROUND SEA. A WARM  
FRONT LOOKS TO MOVE ACROSS THE OLYMPIC PENINSULA THIS EVENING ON ITS  
WAY INTO BC WITH THE ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT APPROACHING THE COAST  
WEDNESDAY MORNING.  
 
SEA...THE CURRENT TREND FOR THE FORECAST THIS EVENING LOOKS GOOD  
WITH INITIALLY BORDERLINE IFR/MVFR CIGS...RISING TO AROUND 020. I  
AGREE WITH THE DISCUSSIONS ON IFR COMING BACK IN 10-12Z  
TONIGHT...THEN BREAKING OUT 16-17Z. SPOTTY LIGHT RAIN SHOULD BE  
OVER BY 00Z...AND RAIN SHOULD NOT RETURN UNTIL LATE TOMORROW  
AFTERNOON. WINDS SHOULD BE LIGHT SSW-SSE THROUGH TONIGHT INTO  
TOMORROW MORNING.  
 
PDX...VFR CONDITIONS INITIALLY. THE NAM SHOWS SOME POSSIBLE FOG IN  
THE MORNING...BUT I WOULD LEAN AGAINST IT. OUTLYING AREAS AND AREAS  
FARTHER NORTH INTO WA LOOK MORE LIKELY FOR FOG. WINDS GENERALLY  
SHOULD BE FROM THE SOUTHEAST 5-8KT.  
 
JMV  
 
&  
 
KSEA CURRENT ARRIVAL RATE...38 SOUTH FLOW  
KSEA WX DELAYS...CEILINGS/VISIBILITIES  
IMPORTANT NUMBERS FOR KSEA....  
 
CIG/WX VSBY AAR IMPACT  
 
>6000 >10 48-52 NO ARTCC PROBLEMS  
4100-6000 >6 44-46 LMTD VAPS (METER DELAYS)  
3000-4000 >6 40-44 LMTD/NO VAPS (TMA, CFR)  
1000-3000 >6 40-44 NO VAPS (TMA, CFR AND/OR GDP)  
100-900 1-5 30-38 MOD DELAYS (TMA, CFR, AND/OR GDP)  
<100 <1 28-30 MAJOR DELAYS (TMA, CFR, AND/OR GDP)  
FZRA/FZDZ/SN 00-28 MAJOR DELAYS FOR PLOWING/DEICING  
(TMA,CFR, AND/OR GDP)  
TSRA VRBL DELAYS (TMA,CFR,GS AND/OR GDP)  
WINDS(2-6K)>30KT 24-32 MAJOR DELAYS (TMA,CFR AND/OR GDP)  
WINDSHIFTS 20MIN DELAYS/RWY SWITCH/FLOW CHG  
 

 
 
KPDX CURRENT ARRIVAL RATE...40-60 EAST FLOW  
KPDX WX DELAYS...NONE  
IMPORTANT NUMBERS FOR KPDX....  
 
CIG/WX VSBY AAR IMPACT  
 
>4100 >6 60 NO ARTCC PROBLEMS  
1000-4000 >6 40 LMTD/NO VAPS (TMA,CFR AND/OR GDP)  
100-900 >1-5 24 MOD DELAYS (TMA,CFR AND/OR GDP)  
<100 <1 24 MOD DELAYS (TMA,CFR AND/OR GDP)  
FZRA/FZDZ/SN 20 MAJOR DELAYS FOR PLOWING/DEICING  
(TMA,CFR, AND/OR GDP)  
TSRA VRB DELAYS (TMA,CFR,GS AND/OR GDP)  
SFC WD 170-230 DEG, 32 MOD DELAYS (TMA,CFR AND/OR GDP)  
WS>20KT, CIG>=4000 FT  
SFC WD 170-230 DEG, 24 MOD DELAYS (TMA,CFP AND/OR GDP)  
WS>20KT, CIG<4000 FT  
SFC WINDSHIFTS 10MIN DELAYS/RWY SWITCH/FLOW CHG  
STG E SFC WINDS WITH 48 PSBL MINOR DELAYS  
STG S-SW WINDS ABV  
1500 FT AGL  
 

 
 
MIT=MILES IN TRAIL GDP=GROUND DELAY PROGRAM GS=GROUND STOP  
CFR=CALL FOR RELEASE TMA=TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT ADVISOR  
VAPS=VISUAL APPROACHES  
 

 
 
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