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FXUS63 KGRB 210347 AAB  
AFDGRB  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION...UPDATED  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GREEN BAY WI  
947 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009  
   
UPDATE  
GOING TO HOLD OFF ON DENSE FOG ADVISORY AT THIS POINT.  
WL CERTAINLY WILL SEE PATCHES OF DENSE FOG...BUT JUST NOT SURE  
IT/S GOING TO BE WIDESPREAD ENOUGH TO WARRANT AN ADVISORY. WILL  
ISSUE SPS DETAILING THE IMPACT ON HUNTERS AND OTHER MOVING AROUND  
EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. CONCERNED ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY ROADS  
COULD BECOME SLIPPERY AS A THICK LAYER OF FROST DEVELOPS ON THE  
ROADWAY BY MORNING. WILL ALSO MENTION THAT IN THE SPS.  
 
ALREADY UPDATED ZONES AND GRIDS A COUPLE HOURS AGO TO HAVE  
MENTION OF PATCHY DENSE FOG. WL TWEAK MINS DOWN A BIT...AND HAVE  
UPDATE OUT SHORTLY.  
 
SKOWRONSKI  
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION...ISSUED AT 923 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009  
 
UPDATE...VSBYS DROPPING ACRS THE N WHERE SKIES HAVE CLEARED.  
OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAVE PATCHY DENSE FOG...QUESTION IS WHETHER OR  
NOT IT BECOMES DENSE ENOUGH TO WARRANT AND ADVISORY. REALIZING  
THERE WILL BE A LOT OF MOVEMENT EARLY TOMORROW AS HUNTERS HEAD OUT  
FOR THE START OF THE DEER SEASON...AM A LITTLE MORE WILLING THAN  
NORMAL TO GO WITH AN ADVISORY FOR MARGINAL CONDITIONS. WL CONTINUE  
TO MONITOR OBS FOR A BIT LONGER...BUT INTEND TO HAVE DECISION  
BEFORE 1000 PM.  
 
SKOWRONSKI  
 
DISCUSSION ISSUED AT 310 PM CST FRI NOV 20 2009...  
 
SHORT TERM....LATEST RUC ANALYSIS AND VIS/IR/WV/RADAR IMAGERY SHOW  
A SHORTWAVE PROGRESSING TO THE EAST ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES  
THIS AFTERNOON WITH BROAD CYCLONIC FLOW AT THE SURFACE. ALTHOUGH  
CLOUDY SKIES PREVAIL AHEAD OF THE WAVE IN A FAIRLY SOUPY LOW LEVEL  
AIRMASS...FORCING AND MOISTURE DEPTH HAVE NOT BEEN SUFFICIENT ENOUGH  
FOR ANY PRECIP. SKIES HAVE CLEARED ACROSS ALL OF MINNESOTA AND FAR  
NORTHWEST WISCONSIN BEHIND THE SHORTWAVE THIS AFTERNOON AS RIDGING  
BUILDS INTO THE REGION. FORECAST CONCERNS OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS  
INCLUDE CLOUD TRENDS AND FOG POTENTIAL TONIGHT.  
 
TONIGHT...THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL CONTINUE TO SLOWLY PASS ACROSS  
THE AREA DURING THE EVENING BEFORE EXITING AFTER MIDNIGHT. WILL SEE  
DECREASING CLOUD COVER AS THIS OCCURS...WHILE BROAD LOW LEVEL  
CYCLONIC FLOW GETS REPLACED BY AN INCOMING WEAK RIDGE AXIS. A DRIER  
LOW LEVEL AIRMASS WILL FILTER INTO THE STATE FROM THE WEST AND  
WILL EAT AWAY AT THE JUICY AIR IN PLACE CURRENTLY. WITH CLEARING  
SKIES...LIGHT WINDS...AND A REASONABLY MOIST BOUNDARY LAYER...EXPECT  
TO SEE SOME RADIATIONAL FOG TOMORROW MORNING. BEST CHANCES WILL  
APPEAR TO BE ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN OF N-C WISCONSIN...WHERE  
CLEARING WILL ARRIVE FIRST. LOOKING UPSTREAM LAST NIGHT...THERE WAS  
SOME PATCHY DENSE FOG ACROSS NORTHERN MINNESOTA...ESPECIALLY WITHIN  
LOW LYING VALLEYS. CROSS-OVER TEMPS UPSTREAM APPEAR TO BE AROUND  
30F OR IN THE LOWER 30S...SO THOSE AREAS WHERE MIN TEMPS FALL BELOW  
THIS THRESHOLD WILL BE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO FOG. AS A RESULT...WILL  
BEEF UP FOG WORDING ACROSS N-C WISCONSIN TO AREAS...BUT KEEP PATCHY  
ELSEWHERE WHERE TEMPS WILL ONLY FALL INTO THE THE LOW TO MID 30S.  
 
TOMORROW...A QUIET DAY TOMORROW ONCE THE FOG BURNS OFF BY  
MID-MORNING DUE TO THE PRESENCE OF RIDGING THROUGH THE COLUMN. A  
LACK OF CLOUD COVER UPSTREAM SUGGESTS A MOSTLY SUNNY DAY. 925MB  
TEMPS AROUND 6C WILL YIELD HIGHS IN THE LOW TO MID 50S.  
 
LONG TERM...SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH NEXT FRIDAY.  
 
MEDIUM RANGE MODEL SOLUTIONS ONCE AGAIN STARTED DOING THEIR OWN  
THING BY EARLY NEXT WEEK. THIS ONCE AGAIN LED TO HPC GUIDANCE  
BEING FOLLOWED MORE CLOSELY THAN ANY OF THE 12Z MODEL RUNS. RAIN  
CHANCES WERE CONFINED TO THE WESTERN PART OF THE FORECAST AREA  
SUNDAY NIGHT...AHEAD OF AN APPROACHING COLD FRONT. PRECIPITATION  
CHANCES CONTINUED INTO WEDNESDAY AS THE HPC MANUAL SURFACE PROG  
BROUGHT A LOW THROUGH WISCONSIN. COLDER AIR IN THE WAKE OF THE  
SYSTEM MADE PRECIPITATION TYPE AN ISSUE FOR TUESDAY NIGHT AND  
WEDNESDAY SO BOTH RAIN AND SNOW WERE MENTIONED FOR THOSE PERIODS.  
LAKE EFFECT APPEARED TO BE A POSSIBILITY ACROSS THE EXTREME NORTH  
AND NORTHEAST STARTING THURSDAY...AS DELTA TS...LAKE SURFACE TO  
850MB...INCREASE. OTHERWISE ONLY WENT WITH SOME SLIGHT CHANCE POPS  
ACROSS THE AREA. MADE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO BLEND WELL WITH  
SURROUNDING FORECAST GRIDS.  
 
DID NOT MAKE MAJOR CHANGES TO HIGH OR LOW TEMPERATURES.  
 
AVIATION...MVFR VSBYS WILL IMPROVE TO VFR THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY  
THIS EVENING AS SKIES WILL SEE A GRADUAL CLEARING TREND. WILL SEE  
RADIATIONAL FOG DEVELOP TONIGHT WITH THE BIGGEST IMPACT EXPECTED AT  
RHI TOMORROW MORNING WHERE LIFR VSBYS (OR POSSIBLY LOWER) ARE  
POSSIBLE. A LITTLE MORE UNCERTAINTY EXISTS AT AUW/CWA/GRB AS ITS  
TOUGH TO GAUGE HOW MUCH DRY AIR IN THE LOW LEVELS WILL ARRIVE  
TONITE. THINK THAT AT LEAST IFR VSBYS ARE POSSIBLE AT AUW/CWA AND  
MVFR AT GRB. WILL LET THE EVENING CREW MONITOR TRENDS AND ADJUST.  
ONCE ANY FOG BURNS OFF BY MID-MORNING TOMORROW...VFR CONDITIONS WILL  
PREVAIL THROUGH THE REST OF THE DAY.  
 
   
GRB WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
NONE.  
 
 
 
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