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FXUS63 KMPX 110842  
AFDMPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TWIN CITIES/CHANHASSEN MN  
342 AM CDT SAT OCT 11 2008  
   
DISCUSSION  
 
FORECAST CONCERN NEAR TERM...POTENTIAL FOR SHRA/TSRA MAINLY ACROSS  
NORTHWEST CWA...AND TEMPERATURE TRENDS. RATHER POTENT FRONT ACROSS  
FAR WESTERN CWA THIS MORNING. GOOD TEMPERATURE CONTRAST INDICATED  
THIS MORNING. MODELS INDICATE THAT THIS BOUNDARY WILL REMAIN  
NEARLY STATIONARY TODAY. THIS WILL LIKELY GENERATE HIGH BUST  
POTENTIAL IN MAX TEMPERATURES IN THE VCNTY OF THIS BOUNDARY. FEW  
-SHRA LIFTING NORTH ACROSS MAINLY NORTHERN PORTION OF THE CWA AND  
SATELLITE SHOWING SOME HIGH CLOUD ENHANCEMENT OVER EASTERN SOUTH  
DAKOTA INTO NORTHWEST MN ASSOCIATED WITH SHORT WAVE MOVING ACROSS  
EASTERN SOUTH DAKOTA THIS MORNING. THIS MAY YET GENERATE SOME  
SHOWERS INTO MAINLY NORTHWEST CWA THIS MORNING. WILL MAINTAIN SOME  
LOW POPS FOR THIS. OVERNIGHT...MODELS MOVE ANOTHER SHORT WAVE  
NORTHEAST OVER MAINLY NORTHWEST CWA OVERNIGHT. AS THIS MOVES  
THROUGH...RIDGING ALOFT DEVELOPS AGAIN IN RESPONSE TO ITS PASSAGE  
AND DEEPENING TROF OVER THE WESTERN CONUS. THE SFC BNDRY REDEVELOPS  
BACK WEST INTO THE WESTERN DAKOTAS OVERNIGHT. THIS WILL DRAW IN  
SOME WARMER AIR TO MOST OF THE CWA TONIGHT...KEEPING LOWS MAINLY  
IN THE 50S.  
 
MODELS THEN TREND JET ENERGY LIFTING NORTHEAST AS THE UPPER LOW  
BEGINS TO LIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS THE DAKOTAS. THE SFC CDFNT MOVES  
INTO WESTERN MN BY LATE SUNDAY AFTERNOON. ENOUGH DYNAMIC FORCING  
MOVES ACROSS THE WESTERN AREAS TO GENERATE LIKELY POPS AGAIN DURING  
THE AFTERNOON. IT DOES APPEAR MODEL FORECAST PRECIPITABLE WATER  
VALUES A BIT HIGH INITIALLY. MORE MOISTURE WILL BE LIFTED  
NORTHEAST ACROSS THE PLAINS AND ALONG THE COLD FRONT SUNDAY NIGHT  
AND MONDAY HOWEVER. MODELS INDICATE SOME SUBTROPICAL MOISTURE  
SHOULD LIFT NORTHEAST AS NORBERT REMNANTS MOVE INTO NEW MEXICO  
REGION LATER SUNDAY. SFC CDNFT THEN MOVES SLOWLY EAST SUNDAY NIGHT  
AND MONDAY. WILL CONTINUE WITH HIGH POPS AS THIS MOVES EAST.  
MARGINAL INSTABILITY ASSCOAITED WITH THE FNT MOVING THROUGH...WITH  
LOW-MID K INDEX VALUES AND H85 LI SLIGTLY NEGATIVE. SHOULD BE  
ENOUGH FOR SOME WIDELY SCT TSRA ALONG FNT INTO SUNDAY NIGHT AND  
MONDAY. MUCH COLDER AIR FOLLOWS THE FRONT...AND SHOULD DRY OUT  
WESTERN POTION OF THE CWA BY MONDAY EVENING.  
 
MODELS ARE TRENDING SLOWER FRONTAL MOVEMENT ACROSS WESTERN  
WISCONSIN MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. GFS IS DEEPER AND THEREFORE  
SLOWER WITH THE TROUGH LIFTING NORTH AND EAST ACROSS THE AREA.  
WILL HOLD ONTO SOME LOW END POPS IN CASE THIS FEATURE SLOWS  
FURTHER. 21Z SREF AND 00Z GFS ENSEMBLES WERE HOLDING ONTO SOME  
POPS INTO EARLY TUESDAY AS WELL.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
/06Z TAF ISSUANCE/  
 
GENERALLY VFR CONDITIONS DURING THE FORECAST PERIOD...EXCEPT VCNTY  
KAXN WHERE MVFR CIGS COULD DEVELOP...DUE TO FRONTAL BOUNDARY IN  
THE AREA. REMAINING ISENTROPIC LIFT OVERNIGHT COULD CAUSE A FEW  
SHOWERS IN THIS AREA AS WELL. OTHERWISE OCNL BKN CIGS 050-060  
COULD DEVELOP IN THE WEAK WARM ADVECTION PATTERN OVER THE MN  
FORECAST AREA OVERNIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING. AN UPPER LEVEL WAVE  
IS THEN FORECAST TO MOVE ACROSS MAINLY THE WESTERN PARTS OF THE  
AREA BY SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING CAUSING A FEW SHOWERS VCNTY  
KAXN...KSTC SATURDAY EVENING. SMALL CHANCE THUNDER BUT TOO ISOLATED  
TO INCLUDE IN TAF AT THIS POINT. MAINLY MID LEVEL CIGS SATURDAY  
AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING FOR ALL SITES EXCEPT KAXN AND KSTC AS  
FRONTAL BOUNDARY REMAINS OVER THE NW THIRD OF THE FORECAST AREA.  
 
 
   
MPX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MN...NONE.  
WI...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
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