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FXUS61 KRLX 091838 CCA  
AFDRLX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON WV  
1259 PM EST MON NOV 9 2009  
   
SYNOPSIS  
 
HIGH PRESSURE REMAINS IN CONTROL AS HIGH CLOUDS THICKEN. SOME HAZE  
AND/OR POLLUTION INTO TUESDAY IN THE STABLE AIR. COLD FRONT CROSSES  
LATE TUESDAY AS LOW PRESSURE PASSES WELL TO THE SOUTH.  
 
 
   
NEAR TERM /THROUGH TUESDAY/  
 
STABLE AIR MASS IN PLACE HAS GIVEN RISE TO SOME HAZE WHILE ALSO  
LIMITING THE MIXING LAYER TO OR BELOW 2KFT...SCRUBBING SOME  
PRESCRIBED BURNS TODAY. THE STABLE CONDITIONS AND LIGHT FLOW  
THROUGH THE MID LEVELS CONTINUES INTO TUE BEFORE THE ATMOSPHERE  
FINALLY STARTS TO BECOME BETTER MIXED. MIXING LAYER LOOKS EVEN  
LOWER IF NOT NON-EXISTENT FOR TUE COMPARED WITH TODAY.  
 
A MAJOR CHANGE IN THE FCST FOR TUE IS THE EXODUS OF THE REMNANTS OF  
IDA TO OUR S AND E. IN ADDITION TO THE LATEST OPERATIONAL MODELS  
ALL TRENDING THIS DIRECTION...ONLY 3/21 9Z SREF MEMBERS SHOW IDA  
AFFECTING S HALF OF CWA AND ANOTHER 4 GRAZE S PORTION; OTHER 14  
MEMBERS DRY. HAVE SCHC TO CHC LATE TUE FAR SE PORTION OF AREA AND  
SCHC LATE NW BEHIND OLD FRONT DRIVEN BY NORTHERN STREAM SHORT  
WAVE TROUGH. THIS IS THE FEATURE THAT WILL LEAD TO STEEPER LOW  
LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND THE ERADICATION OF ANY HAZE.  
 
WITH THE THICK HIGH CLOUD LAYER...SEEMS PRUDENT TO STICK CLOSE TO  
CURRENT NUMBERS FOR LOWS TONIGHT AS THEY ARE CLOSEST TO THE HIGHER  
MET. WITH DRIER FCST FOR TUE...APPEARS PRUDENT TO RAISE HIGHS ABOVE  
THE MAV BUT NOT QUITE ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGH MET YET.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /TUESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY/  
 
STILL A VARIETY OF MODEL SOLUTIONS REGARDING EVENTUAL FATE OF  
APPROACHING WEAK COLD FRONT...PLUS REMNANT MOISTURE FROM IDA. THE  
GFS IS THE STRONG OUTLIER...PHASING THE STREAMS ALONG THE ATLANTIC  
COAST AND CREATING A STRONG CLOSED H500 LOW OVER THE APPALACHIANS BY  
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON. THE NAM WANTS TO SUPPRESS ALL OF THE TROPICAL  
MOISTURE TO THE SOUTH...AND INSTEAD BRING ACROSS A WEAK MIDLEVEL  
WAVE ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT...AND WITH VIRTUALLY NO  
PRECIPITATION. THE UKMET/GEM ALSO HAVE DIFFERING VIEWS. THE ECMWF  
OFFERS MORE OF A COMPROMISE...WITH PHASING OCCURRING OFFSHORE OF THE  
SOUTHEAST U.S...WHILE SKIMMING THE CWA WITH THE IDA REMNANT  
MOISTURE. WENT WITH THIS SOLUTION...WHICH PRESERVE SOME MEASURE OF  
CONTINUITY. STILL HAVE A DECENT GRADIENT IN THE POP GRIDS...RANGING  
FROM LIKELY IN THE FAR SOUTH AND EAST TO LOW CHANCE IN THE  
NORTHWEST. IN FACT...SOUTHEAST OHIO MAY WELL END UP GETTING ZERO  
RAINFALL FROM THE STRUNG-OUT FRONT WHICH SINKS IN DURING THE DAY  
TUESDAY. BULK OF THE TROPICAL MOISTURE ARRIVES AFTER 18Z TUESDAY IN  
THE SOUTH AND EAST. ONE QUARTER TO ONE HALF INCH OF RAIN MAY FALL  
IN SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA AND SOUTHEAST WEST VIRGINIA THROUGH 12Z  
WEDNESDAY...WITH AMOUNTS DROPPING OFF TO THE NORTHWEST FAIRLY  
QUICKLY.  
 
BY SUNRISE WEDNESDAY...MOST OF THE MOISTURE HAS PULLED OFF TO THE  
EAST. SOME LIGHT RAIN MAY LINGER IN THE MOUNTAINS DURING THE  
MORNING...BUT NORTHEAST FLOW AROUND THE LOW TO THE SOUTHEAST MEANS  
NO BACKSIDE UPSLOPE. LARGE SURFACE HIGH BUILDS IN BEHIND...WITH  
CLEARING SKIES AND COOLER TEMPERATURES.  
 
LEANED TOWARDS THE COOLER SIDE OF MOS TUESDAY IN THE SOUTHEAST WITH  
THICKER CLOUDS AND RAIN...AND MORE MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD TO THE  
NORTHWEST. MET/MAV BLEND TUESDAY NIGHT. PREFERRED COOLER VALUES  
WEDNESDAY WITH THE NORTHEAST FLOW BRINGING IN 1-3C H850 AIR.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH MONDAY/  
 
MODELS CONTINUE TO DIFFER WITH THE HANDLING OF THE REMNANTS OF  
HURRICANE IDA. 12Z NAM APPEARS TO BE TRENDING TOWARDS A DRIER  
SOLUTION FOR THURSDAY...AS IT INDICATES THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM OVER  
THE SE U.S....AND ITS ASSOCIATED MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE  
SOUTH OF THE REGION. 12Z GFS CONTINUES TO INDICATE THE REMNANTS OF  
HURRICANE IDA WILL MOVE NORTHEAST OVER THE REGION EARLY THIS  
WEEK...WITH PRECIPITATION CONTINUING TO WRAP AROUND THE BACK SIDE OF  
THE LOW INTO THE REGION FOR THURSDAY. 00Z RUN OF THE ECMWF ALSO  
INDICATED THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER WOULD MOVE NORTHEAST OVER THE  
REGION...BUT WOULD MOVE OFFSHORE BY THURSDAY. HOWEVER...12Z RUN OF  
THE ECMWF NOW SEEMS TO BE MORE IN LINE WITH THE 12Z NAM...TRENDING  
TOWARDS A DRIER SOLUTION ON THURSDAY AS THE LOW PRESSURE CENTER  
REMAINS OVER THE SE U.S....BEFORE SLIDING OFF TO THE SOUTH AND EAST  
LATE WED. FOR NOW HAVE TRENDED THE FORECAST MORE TOWARDS THAT OF  
HPC...ECMWF...AND NAM...WHICH KEEPS THE FORECAST REGION DRY FOR  
THURSDAY. HIGH PRESSURE THEN TAKES CONTROL FOR MUCH OF THE REMAINDER  
OF THE FORECAST PERIOD...FOR DRY CONDITIONS AND A GRADUAL WARM UP IN  
TEMPERATURES. UNSETTLED WEATHER RETURNS TO THE FORECAST AREA LATE IN  
THE PERIOD AS ANOTHER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM AND ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT  
MOVE IN FROM THE WEST.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
VFR FCST WITH LIGHT FLOW SFC AND ALOFT. HAZE IN THE STABLE AIR MASS  
MAY DROP VSBYS TOWARD MVFR /5 MI/. THIS IS MOST LIKELY AT EKN  
DURING THE MORNING HOURS.  
 
AFTER 18Z TUESDAY...  
NO SIGNIFICANT WEATHER EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.  
 
 
   
RLX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
WV...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
KY...NONE.  
VA...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
SYNOPSIS...KTB/CL/TRM  
NEAR TERM...TRM  
SHORT TERM...CL  
LONG TERM...SL  
AVIATION...TRM  
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