814  
FXUS63 KDTX 162018  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
318 PM EST SUN NOV 16 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- COLDER AND BRISK TODAY. WIND GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 30 MPH AT TIMES.  
LIGHT SCATTERED LAKE EFFECT RAIN-SNOW SHOWERS PERSIST IN THE  
THUMB THROUGH THE EVENING.  
 
- THERE IS A CHANCE FOR RAIN AND SNOW ON TUESDAY, MAINLY SOUTH OF  
THE I-69 CORRIDOR. SOME WINTRY MIX IS POSSIBLE NEAR THE OHIO BORDER  
TUESDAY MORNING.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ONGOING LIGHT SCATTERED LAKE EFFECT RAIN-SNOW SHOWERS OVER THE  
NORTHERN PORTIONS OF CWA CONTINUE THROUGH THE LATE AFTERNOON AS  
STRONG NORTHWESTERLY FLOW MAINTAINS A MOISTURE FEED FROM LAKE  
MICHIGAN. SOME SUBTLE VEERING OF LOW LEVEL WINDS BY 10-20DEG TO THE  
WEST THIS EVENING CONFINES LINGERING LAKE EFFECT ACTIVITY TO THE  
THUMB AND NORTHERN TRI-CITIES AS UPPER MIDWEST SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE  
SLOWLY BUILDS INTO SOUTHERN LOWER MI. INCREASING SUBSIDENCE UNDER  
SAID HIGH MONDAY MAINTAINS DRIER CONDITIONS WITH REMNANT LAKE EFFECT  
BANDING HOLDING TO THE EAST OVER LAKE HURON/SOUTHERN ONTARIO AS WELL  
AS MORE ABUNDANT SUN CHANCES OUTSIDE THE THUMB. THE SLOW EXPANSION  
OF THE HIGH DOESN'T ALLOW THE GRADIENT TO WEAKEN UNTIL MONDAY  
EVENING SUPPORTING ANOTHER BREEZIER DAY AS GUSTS PEAK AROUND 20-  
25MPH.  
 
A MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE EJECTS OUT OF THE CENTRAL ROCKIES LATE MONDAY  
EVENTUALLY REACHING THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES/OHIO VALLEY BY TUESDAY  
MORNING. THERE STILL REMAINS A GOOD DEGREE OF VARIABILITY IN THE 12Z  
MODEL SUITE WRT TO THE NORTHERN EXTENT THE ASSOCIATED PRECIP SHIELD  
REACHES WITH SOLUTIONS LIKE THE GFS/CANADIAN ADVERTISING AS FAR  
NORTH AS THE I-69 CORRIDOR WHEREAS THE NAM/NAM NEST STRUGGLE TO GET  
FURTHER NORTH THAN I-94. THIS LENDS TO LOWER CONFIDENCE IN POP  
CHANCES OUTSIDE OF THE OHIO BORDER AREAS WITH RUNNING FORECAST FROM  
NBM MAINTAINING BROAD BRUSHED CHANCES. HOWEVER, CONFIDENCE IS HIGH  
THAT THIS PRECIP SHIELD WILL HAVE A SHARP NORTHERN CUTOFF DUE TO  
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES FEEDING COOL,  
DRY AIR INTO SOUTHERN LOWER MI. LEAD F-GEN BAND IS PROGGED TO REACH  
SOUTHERN SE MI AROUND 12Z WITH LIGHT PRECIP PERSISTING THROUGH THE  
DAY. THIS ARRIVAL TIME LEADS TO A SENSITIVE FORECAST FOR P-TYPE AS  
SURFACE TEMPS ARE FORECAST TO BE NEAR OR BELOW FREEZING AS LOWER  
LEVEL WARM AIR ATTEMPTS TO NUDGE NORTH OF THE STATE LINE. IF WARMER  
AIR CAN MAKE SUFFICIENT INROADS, THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR SOME  
FREEZING RAIN-WINTRY MIX OVER SOUTHERN CWA TUESDAY MORNING BEFORE  
TEMPS WARM ENOUGH TO TRANSITION TOWARDS RAIN. SHOULD THE MORE  
NORTHERLY OUTCOMES MANIFEST, AREAS NORTH OF I-94 LOOK TO STAY COLD  
ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SNOW AT ONSET TRANSITIONING TOWARDS RAIN-SNOW OR  
RAIN-MELTING SNOW.  
 
SYSTEM PEELS AWAY FROM THE REGION TUESDAY EVENING ALLOWING NORTHERN  
GREAT LAKES HIGH PRESSURE TO FULLY EXPAND ACROSS THE STATE  
OVERNIGHT. THIS HIGH MAINTAINS INFLUENCE THROUGH EARLY THURSDAY  
MORNING FAVORING A SEASONABLY COOL BUT DRY MIDWEEK. ACTIVE PATTERN  
LOOKS TO RETURN BY LATE WEEK AS LONG RANGE MODELS HIGHLIGHT A PAIR  
OF NORTHERN/SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVES SLIDING ACROSS THE CENTRAL  
CONUS.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
THE CENTRAL AND EASTERN GREAT LAKES REMAIN UNDER INFLUENCE OF NEW  
ENGLAND LOW PRESSURE AND ITS EXPANSIVE PRESSURE GRADIENT. THIS HAS  
LED TO WIDESPREAD OBSERVATIONS OF GALE FORCE GUSTS ACROSS THE OPEN  
WATERS AND THUMB NEARSHORE ZONES LAST NIGHT AND TODAY. THE NORTHWEST  
FLOW REGIME HAS NOT BEEN FAVORABLE FOR GALES OVER SAGINAW BAY, SO  
OPTED TO REPLACE THE GALE WARNING WITH A HIGH-END SMALL CRAFT  
ADVISORY. OTHERWISE, HEADLINES REMAIN UNCHANGED. GUSTS WILL BEGIN TO  
DISSIPATE LATE THIS EVENING AS THE LOW WRAPS INTO NORTHERN QUEBEC,  
DRAWING ITS GRADIENT EAST WITH HIGH PRESSURE QUICKLY FILLING IN  
BEHIND IT. THE MORE RELAXED GRADIENT ALLOWS WINDS TO FURTHER SUBSIDE  
THROUGH MONDAY, WITH WAVE HEIGHTS FOLLOWING SUIT. BY MONDAY NIGHT,  
THE WATERWAYS SHOULD BE HEADLINE-FREE AS THE HIGH PRESSURE CENTER  
TAKES FULL CONTROL. THE NEXT SYSTEM TRACKS ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY  
TUESDAY, WITH THE MAIN IMPACT BEING WINTER PRECIPITATION POTENTIAL  
SOUTH OF LAKE HURON. A SECOND ROUND OF HIGH PRESSURE THEN RETURNS  
MID-WEEK, FLIPPING WINDS TO THE SOUTH.  
 

 
   
PREV DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 100 PM EST SUN NOV 16 2025  
 
AVIATION...  
 
GUSTY NORTHWEST FLOW (300-320 DEGREES) REMAINS IN PLACE ACROSS THE  
TERMINALS THIS AFTERNOON, DRAWING LAKE MICHIGAN MOISTURE INTO THE  
LOW-LEVELS. THIS HAS LED TO SOME LAKE-EFFECT STREAMERS SPILLING  
DOWNSTREAM, RESULTING IN PERIODS OF (MELTING) FLURRIES. THIS  
ACTIVITY WILL CONTINUE IN WIDELY SCATTERED FASHION THROUGH THE  
REMAINDER OF THE DAYLIGHT HOURS WITH NO IMPACT ON VISIBILITIES. THE  
COMBINATION OF CEILOMETER AND SATELLITE DATA SUGGEST VARIABILITY IN  
CEILING DEVELOPMENT THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING, ALTHOUGH LOW-  
END VFR SHOULD BE MAINTAINED DURING TIMES OF BKN STRATOCUMULUS,  
BASED BETWEEN 3.5 KFT AND 5 KFT AGL. 25-30 KNOT GUSTS SHOULD TAPER  
OFF SHORTLY AFTER SUNSET, ONCE STABILITY TURNS MORE NEUTRAL.  
GRADIENT FLOW BACKS WESTERLY OVERNIGHT WITH WITH SPEEDS HOLDING NEAR  
10 KNOTS INTO MONDAY WITH FEW CLOUDS AND NO PRECIPITATION.  
 
FOR DTW...GUSTS TO 30 KNOTS WITH A FEW LAKE-EFFECT FLURRIES AND VFR  
CONDITIONS, THEN CLEARING OUT OVERNIGHT WITH DECREASING WIND SPEEDS.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* LOW FOR CEILING 5000 FEET THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
* LOW FOR EXCEEDING CROSSWIND THRESHOLD FROM 310 DEGREES THIS  
AFTERNOON AND EVENING.  
 

 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LHZ361>363-441-  
462>464.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 4 PM EST MONDAY FOR LHZ421.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 4 AM EST MONDAY FOR LHZ422-442-443.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LCZ460.  
 
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR LEZ444.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...KDK  
MARINE.......MV  
AVIATION.....KGK  
 
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