031  
FXUS63 KDTX 061152  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
652 AM EST THU NOV 6 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- WIDESPREAD RAIN SHOWERS MOVE ACROSS THE AREA LATE TONIGHT-FRIDAY  
MORNING.  
 
- TURNING MUCH COLDER OVER THE WEEKEND WITH A CHANCE OF THE FIRST  
ACCUMULATING SNOW OF THE SEASON BY SUNDAY.  
 
- HIGH TEMPERATURES LIMITED TO THE UPPER 30S WITH LOWS IN THE LOWER  
20S SUNDAY AND MONDAY. SCATTERED LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ALSO  
LIKELY DURING THIS TIMEFRAME.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
DEEP RIDGING AND SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL LEAD TO VFR CONDITIONS  
TODAY AND THROUGH MUCH OF TONIGHT. ABRUPT THETAE ADVECTION AND  
FRONTAL DYNAMICS WILL BRING A PERIOD OF WIDESPREAD RAIN DURING THE  
DAYTIME FRIDAY. DID INTRODUCE A START TIME OF 10 TO 11Z FOR THE  
ONSET OF MVFR CIGS/VSBY RAIN.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* NONE.  
 

 
   
PREV DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 310 AM EST THU NOV 6 2025  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
COLDER START TO THE MORNING AS CLEAR SKIES AND LIGHT WINDS OFFERED  
EFFICIENT RADIATIVE COOLING OVERNIGHT DROPPING TEMPS TO AROUND 30  
WITH SOME AREAS FALLING INTO THE 20S. NORTHERN EDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE  
SLIDING ALONG THE OHIO VALLEY IN PLACE OVER SE MI TODAY MAINTAINING  
DRY CONDITIONS AND LIGHTER WESTERLY WINDS. WINDS EVENTUALLY VEER TO  
THE SOUTH LATE DAY AS THE RIDGE AXIS SHIFTS TO THE EASTERN GREAT  
LAKES. ENERGETIC NORTHERN JET OVER THE CONUS LEADS TO A ACTIVE  
PATTERN TO END THE WEEK WITH A SERIES OF PACIFIC NORTHWEST  
SHORTWAVES EJECTING TOWARDS THE PLAINS/GREAT LAKES. FIRST OF THESE  
ARRIVE OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS LATE TONIGHT SPURRING CYCLOGENSIS  
OVER THE FAR NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY. DEEPENING LOW  
PRESSURE IS PROGGED TO LIFT OVER THE UP/LAKE SUPERIOR EARLY FRIDAY  
AS THE TIGHTENING GRADIENT STRENGTHENS SOUTHERLY FLOW INTO SOUTHERN  
LOWER MI WITH A 45-50KT LLJ DEVELOPING. IN ADDITION TO SUPPORTING  
BREEZY DAY WITH PEAK GUSTS UP AROUND 25MPH, THIS JET DRIVES ROBUST  
MOISTURE TRANSPORT INTO THE AREA AS PW VALUES NEAR 1" (WITHIN THE  
90TH PERCENTILE FOR EARLY NOVEMBER). LEAD COLD FRONT CROSSES SE MI  
LATE MORNING-AFTERNOON GENERATING A BAND OF LIGHT TO MODERATE  
SHOWERS IN ADVANCE BEFORE CLEARING EAST BY EVENING. A SECONDARY COLD  
FRONT IS THEN SET TO SWING THROUGH SOUTHERN LOWER MI FRIDAY NIGHT  
BRINGING A LOW CHANCE FOR A FEW ADDITIONAL LIGHT SHOWERS. THIS FRONT  
MARKS THE LEAD EDGE OF AN ARCTIC ORIGINATING AIRMASS THAT SINKING  
SOUTH OVER NORTHERN MANITOBA/ONTARIO.  
 
A SECOND, MORE POTENT, PACIFIC NORTHWEST SHORTWAVE QUICKLY ARRIVES  
OVER THE MIDWEST SATURDAY. MODEL FAMILIES REMAIN CONVERGED ON THE  
ASSOCIATED SURFACE LOW TRACKING OVER NORTH-CENTRAL OHIO LATE  
SATURDAY NIGHT-EARLY SUNDAY THOUGH STILL SOME SUBTLE DIFFERENCES IN  
EXACT NORTH-SOUTH POSITIONING. THE SPEED AT WHICH THIS WAVE PHASES  
WITH A BROAD HUDSON BAY MID-UPPER TROUGH HOWEVER HAS NOT BEEN FULLY  
RESOLVED. THAT SAID, THERE HAS BEEN A TREND IN THE 00Z GUIDANCE IN A  
SLOWER WAVE INTERACTION FAVORING A FLATTER, MORE OPEN LOW QUICKLY  
PUSHING INTO THE NORTHEASTERN US BY LATE SUNDAY. THIS OUTCOME  
REDUCES RESIDENCE TIME OVER SE MI RESULTING IN RELATIVE LOWER QPF,  
THOUGH STILL OFFERS THE REGION'S FIRST SNOW CHANCES OF THE SEASON.  
VERY HIGH CONFIDENCE IN THE MAGNITUDE OF COLD AIR THAT FOLLOWS THIS  
SYSTEM AS THE NOW HIGHLY AMPLIFIED HUDSON BAY UPPER TROUGH SETTLES  
OVER THE GREAT LAKES. THIS ALLOWS THE AFOREMENTIONED ARCTIC AIRMASS  
(NOW PARTIALLY MODIFIED FROM ITS TREK SOUTH) TO HOLD OVER LOWER  
SUNDAY INTO TUESDAY AS 850MB TEMPS CRATER TOWARDS -12C, WELL WITHIN  
THE 10TH PERCENTILE CLIMATOLOGY. END RESULT IS THE FIRST TASTE OF  
WINTER AS HIGHS ONLY TOP OUT IN THE 30S SUNDAY AND MONDAY (SOME  
LOWER 40S POSSIBLE BY TUESDAY) WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS EACH OF THOSE  
NIGHTS IN THE LOWER 20S. SCATTERED LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ARE ALSO  
LIKELY BOTH LATE SUNDAY, FOLLOWING THE DEPARTURE OF SYNOPTIC PRECIP,  
AND MONDAY. LONG RANGE MODEL SOLUTIONS DO HINT AT SOME MODERATION IN  
TEMPS BY MIDWEEK THOUGH STILL AT LEAST SLIGHTLY BELOW AVERAGE.  
 
MARINE...  
 
HIGH PRESSURE PASSING THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY WEAKENS THE GRADIENT  
IN PLACE OVER THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES TODAY, CAUSING NORTHWEST WIND  
TO CONTINUE TO SUBSIDE. AS THE HIGH PASSES EAST THIS EVENING, FLOW  
ORGANIZES OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST BEFORE BACKING TO SOUTH ON FRIDAY IN  
RESPONSE TO LOW PRESSURE TRACKING ACROSS THE NORTHERN GREAT LAKES.  
SOUTH WIND BECOMES GUSTY THROUGH THE DAY FRIDAY, PEAKING DURING THE  
MORNING WITH GUSTS OF AROUND 25 TO 30 KT. LATEST GUIDANCE PRESENTS A  
40% CHANCE FOR A 1 TO 3 HOUR PERIOD OF LOW-END GALES ACROSS PORTIONS  
OF CENTRAL LAKE HURON BETWEEN 06Z AND 12Z. THE LOWER CONFIDENCE AND  
BREVITY OF THE EVENT PRECLUDES A GALE HEADLINE AT THIS STAGE BUT  
WILL CONTINUE TO MONITOR TRENDS IN GUIDANCE TODAY. WIDESPREAD RAIN  
WILL ALSO ACCOMPANY THIS SYSTEM FRIDAY BEFORE THE COLD FRONT BRINGS  
IN DRIER AIR LATE. POST-FRONTAL NORTHWEST WIND IS FORECAST TO PEAK  
AROUND 20 TO 25 KT FRIDAY NIGHT. THE NEXT LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL  
TRACK ACROSS THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY.  
DETAILS ARE YET TO BE DETERMINED REGARDING SYSTEM STRENGTH AND  
TRACK, BUT THIS SYSTEM WILL LIKELY PULL A MUCH COLDER AIR MASS  
ACROSS THE REGION FOR THE EARLY WEEK. THE POTENTIAL IS INCREASING  
FOR GUSTY NORTHERLY WINDS AND SNOW DURING THE DAYLIGHT PERIOD SUNDAY.  
 

 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR LHZ441-442.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  

 
 

 
 
AVIATION.....CB  
DISCUSSION...KDK  
MARINE.......TF  
 
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