704  
FXUS63 KAPX 031955  
AFDAPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI  
355 PM EDT FRI OCT 3 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- CHANCES FOR SHOWERS NORTH TONIGHT.  
 
- RECORD WARMTH IN PLAY THIS WEEKEND.  
 
- PERSISTENT WARM AND DRY WEATHER WITH INCREASING WINDS  
LEADING TO INCREASED FIRE WEATHER RISK THIS WEEKEND.  
 
- LIKELY HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK SUNDAY ON LAKE MICHIGAN.  
 
- RAIN CHANCES RETURN MONDAY.  
 
- COOL DOWN STARTING TUESDAY THROUGH THE REST OF THE  
WEEK...FROST POTENTIAL WEDNESDAY MORNING/THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH SATURDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 346 PM EDT FRI OCT 3 2025  
 
PATTERN SYNOPSIS/FORECAST: SPLIT FLOW PATTERN OVER THE PACIFIC AND  
INTO WESTERN NORTH AMERICA CONSOLIDATES WELL NORTH OF THE BORDER  
WITH STRONGER ZONAL WESTERLIES. BROAD UPPER LEVEL RIDGING EXTENDS  
FROM THE DESERT SOUTHWEST/SOUTHERN PLAINS INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST  
DOWNSTREAM FROM AN UPPER LOW OVER NORTHERN CALIFORNIA; BIT OF A  
WEAKNESS IN THE UPPER LEVEL PATTERN EVIDENT FROM THE LOWER GREAT  
LAKES INTO THE LOWER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY/CENTRAL GULF COAST.  
RIDGING/BROAD ANTICYCLONIC TRAJECTORY IS MORE CONSOLIDATED IN THE  
LOWER LEVELS FROM THE MID ATLANTIC/ SOUTHEASTERN STATES WEST INTO  
THE CENTRAL/SOUTHERN PLAINS. NARROW BAND OF MOISTURE (PRECIPITABLE  
WATER 1.00-1.25 INCHES/LOW LEVEL THETA-E RIDGE AXIS) MOVING THROUGH  
THE UPPER LAKES THIS AFTERNOON. 1030MB SURFACE HIGH CENTERED ALONG  
EASTERN SEABOARD THIS AFTERNOON...COLD FRONT THAT HAS BEEN GRADUALLY  
DROPPING SOUTHWARD ACROSS NORTHERN ONTARIO SINCE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON  
NOW LOCATED NEAR LAKE SUPERIOR.  
 
FRONTAL BOUNDARY APPROACHING FROM THE NORTH WILL SETTLE ACROSS UPPER  
MICHIGAN THIS EVENING...BUT EVENTUALLY WILL GET OVERWHELMED BY  
INCREASING SOUTHERLY BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW STARTING LATER TONIGHT.  
DEEP LAYER ANTICYCLONIC FLOW SETTLES ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES FOR  
SATURDAY.  
 
PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS:  
 
CHANCES FOR SHOWERS NORTH TONIGHT: HAVE ALREADY HAD SOME SCATTERED  
CONVECTION MOVE ACROSS EASTERN UPPER EARLIER THIS MORNING...AND  
GETTING SOME NEW DEVELOPMENT OVER THE UPPER PENINSULA THIS  
AFTERNOON. THIS ACTIVITY WELL AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT WHICH IS  
STILL NORTH OF LAKE SUPERIOR...AND MINIMAL MLCAPE IS OFFSET BY A  
GOOD BIT OF CINH SO LIKELY THAT WHATEVER IS DEVELOPING IS ELEVATED  
ALONG LOW LEVEL THETA-E RIDGE AXIS OR AT LEAST A HYBRID (BATCH OF  
ACCAS THAT FLOATED OVER THE OFFICE EARLIER PROBABLY AN INDICATOR OF  
SUCH). THETA-E RIDGE AND SOME MINIMAL ELEVATED INSTABILITY LINGERS  
TONIGHT ACROSS EASTERN UPPER AND THE TIP OF THE MITT COUNTIES...SO  
THERE IS A LOW PROBABILITY THAT WE MAY CONTINUE TO SEE SCATTERED  
NUISANCE HIGH-BASED CONVECTION ACROSS THE NORTHERN HALF OF THE  
FORECAST AREA INTO EARLY SATURDAY MORNING.  
 
RECORD WARMTH IN PLAY THIS WEEKEND/DAY 1 FIRE WEATHER CONCERNS: FROM  
THE DEPARTMENT OF COOL STATS -- PLN/GLR/TVC/HTL HAVE A STREAK OF  
ABOVE NORMAL DAILY MEAN TEMPERATURES DATING BACK TO 12 SEPTEMBER.  
THAT STREAK IS CERTAINLY GOING TO CONTINUA INTO THE COMING WEEKEND  
WITH INCREASING SOUTHERLY WINDS AND 850MB TEMPERATURES AT OR ABOVE  
+16C. RECORD HIGHS FOR SATURDAY INCLUDE 82 ANJ (1922)/82 GLR  
(2005)/86 APN (1926)/87 PLN (2005)/87 HTL (1922)/88 TVC (1922).  
MIXING LOOKS FAIRLY DEEP ON SATURDAY...PROBABLY SIMILAR TO TODAY  
GIVEN THE RESIDUAL LAYER THAT SHOWED UP ON THE 1200Z APX SOUNDING  
THIS MORNING THAT WAS NOT THERE 12 HOURS EARLIER. WE WILL LIKELY  
END UP MIXING PAST 800MB TODAY AND SEE NO REASON THAT WILL BE  
DIFFERENT TOMORROW. THAT WILL PUT MOST OF THE NORTHERN LOWER RECORDS  
IN JEOPARDY SATURDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
AS FOR FIRE WEATHER...EXPECT DEW POINTS TO REMAIN IN THE 50S ONCE  
AGAIN DESPITE DEEP MIXING GIVEN BACKWARD TRAJECTORY FORECASTS AND  
LOW LEVEL MIXING RATIOS SIMILAR TO TODAY. THIS WOULD PUT RELATIVE  
HUMIDITY VALUES DOWN BELOW 40 PERCENT...HIGHS IN THE MID 80S WOULD  
REQUIRE DEW POINTS IN THE MID 40S TO GET MINIMUM RELATIVE HUMIDITY  
VALUES BELOW 25 PERCENT (RED FLAG WARNING CRITERIA). WINDS WILL BE  
INCREASING FROM THE SOUTH/SOUTHWEST SATURDAY...LIKELY GUSTING TO  
20MPH ACROSS NORTHERN LOWER AND TO 25MPH ACROSS EASTERN UPPER.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 346 PM EDT FRI OCT 3 2025  
 
DAYS 2-3 (SUNDAY-MONDAY): UPPER LEVEL RIDGE AXIS MOVES INTO THE  
NORTHEASTERN U.S. ON SUNDAY...AS SPLIT WESTERN NORTH AMERICAN TROUGH  
BECOMES MORE CONSOLIDATED AND BEGINS TO PROPAGATE EAST (ACTUALLY  
START GETTING SOME WEAK HEIGHT FALLS INTO THE UPPER LAKES SUNDAY).  
SUNDAY RECORDS INCLUDE 81 ANJ (2005)/82 GLR (2005)/84 PLN (2005)/ 85  
APN (2005)/87 TVC (1922)/88 HTL (1922). 850MB TEMPERATURES FORECAST  
TO BE A COUPLE DEGREES COOLER SUNDAY (AROUND 14C)...SO HIGHS MAY BE  
A BIT COOLER SUNDAY AFTERNOON BUT STILL MAINLY IN THE 80S. SOME OF  
THE WARMER RECORDS THAT DATE BACK MORE THAN 100 YEARS (TVC/HTL) MAY  
CARRY ON. IT WILL LIKELY BE A BIT WINDIER AS WELL SUNDAY (GUSTS 20-  
30MPH)...AND DEW POINTS MAY ALSO DROP INTO THE 40S SO PERHAPS LOWER  
RELATIVE HUMIDITY VALUES AND MAY INCH CLOSER TO RED FLAG CRITERIA  
(THOUGH CURRENT FORECAST DOES NOT HAVE THAT). FIRE DANGER RATING IS  
ALREADY FORECAST TO BE IN THE VERY HIGH CATEGORY FOR SUNDAY.  
WILL BE RUNNING WITH ELEVATED FIRE DANGER FOR BOTH DAYS THIS  
WEEKEND...BUT WE WILL REVISIT SUNDAY'S POTENTIAL.  
 
DID BRING WINDS DOWN MANUALLY OVER LAKE MICHIGAN SUNDAY NIGHT...  
SUSPECT NEW METHODOLOGY OF COMPUTING WINDS USING NBM PERCENTILES  
DEPENDING ON CLIMATOLOGY IS A BIT AGGRESSIVE IN TRYING TO YANK DOWN  
MOMENTUM INTO A STABLE SURFACE PROFILE. SO JUST WENT STRAIGHT UP  
NBM MEAN WIND GUSTS TO BETTER BLEND WITH THE OPEN LAKE WINDS AND  
REMOVE THE NEAR STORM FORCE GUSTS THAT WERE POPULATED. STILL THINK  
GALE FORCE GUSTS ARE IN THE CARDS ON LAKE MICHIGAN (AT LEAST ALONG  
THE SOUTHERN UPPER NEARSHORE) BUT THESE STABLE WARM ADVECTION WIND  
SCENARIOS ARE NOT ALWAYS SLAM DUNKS. THE LONG FETCH SOUTHERLY WIND  
MAY PLAY A ROLE IN THAT.  
 
GIVEN THE INCREASING WINDS/WAVES ON A WARM SUNDAY...WILL BE  
MESSAGING RIP CURRENT HAZARDS AS WELL...ESPECIALLY ON THE LAKE  
MICHIGAN SIDE WHERE RIP CURRENT RISK LOOKS TO BE HIGHEST  
(MANISTEE TO GRAND TRAVERSE LIGHT...AND ALONG US-2 BEACHES IN  
MACKINAC COUNTY).  
 
FALLING HEIGHTS ALSO MEANS THAT A COLD FRONT WILL BE ADVANCING  
TOWARD THE REGION THAT WILL PROBABLY CROSS THE STATE SOMETIME  
MONDAY. SO OUR NEXT CHANCE FOR WIDESPREAD RAINFALL ACROSS NORTHERN  
MICHIGAN ARRIVES SUNDAY NIGHT.  
 
DAYS 4-5 (TUESDAY-WEDNESDAY): NORTHERN MICHIGAN SHOULD FIND ITSELF  
IN THE POST-COLD FRONT AIR MASS ON TUESDAY; TEMPERATURES RETURNING  
TO SOMETHING CLOSER TO EARLY OCTOBER NORMALS (UPPER 50S-LOWER 60S  
HIGHS). COOLER AIR AND HEIGHT FALLS WITH TROUGH SWINGING ACROSS THE  
STATE LOOKS LIKE A SHOWERY PRECIPITATION SET UP. IF THINGS CAN  
CLEAR OUT TUESDAY NIGHT WITH HIGH PRESSURE BUILDING IN COULD BE IN  
FOR SOME FROST ACROSS THE INTERIOR WEDNESDAY MORNING.  
 
DAYS 6-7 OUTLOOK (THURSDAY-FRIDAY): COULD BE POTENTIALLY ANOTHER  
FROSTY MORNING TO START THURSDAY (PROBABILITIES FOR SUB-FREEZING  
TEMPERATURES THIS FAR OUT ARE EVEN BETTER THAN WEDNESDAY MORNING)...  
BUT TEMPERATURES COULD MODERATE FOR THE END OF THE WEEK ALONG WITH  
THE POSSIBILITY OF RAIN RETURNING FRIDAY.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z SATURDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1250 PM EDT FRI OCT 3 2025  
 
VFR CONTINUES. WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR A SHOWER AT CIU THIS  
AFTERNOON, AND PLN THIS EVENING, BUT ANTICIPATING WITH HIGH CLOUD  
BASES AND LIGHTER INTENSITIES, THESE SITES REMAIN VFR AS WELL.  
OTHERWISE, LARGELY JUST SOME HIGH CLOUD WITH A LIGHT SW WIND THROUGH  
THE DAY. MINIMAL BR / FG CONCERNS TONIGHT. SNEAK PEAK AT SATURDAY  
SHOWS JUST SOME MORE HIGH CLOUD ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT WITH A  
SLIGHTLY BREEZIER S TO SSW WIND.  
 
 
   
APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...JPB  
LONG TERM...JPB  
AVIATION...HAD  
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