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FXUS63 KAPX 041929  
AFDAPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI  
329 PM EDT SAT OCT 4 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- LATE CONVECTION THIS AFTERNOON?  
 
- FIRE DANGER CONCERNS SUNDAY AMID POTENTIAL RECORD WARMTH.  
 
- HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK ON LAKE MICHIGAN SUNDAY.  
 
- RAIN CHANCES RETURN SUNDAY NIGHT/MONDAY.  
 
- COOL DOWN STARTING TUESDAY THROUGH THE REST OF THE WEEK...FROST  
POTENTIAL WEDNESDAY MORNING/THURSDAY MORNING.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH SUNDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 309 PM EDT SAT OCT 4 2025  
 
PATTERN SYNOPSIS/FORECAST: BROAD UPPER RIDGING ENCOMPASSES MUCH OF  
THE EASTERN HALF OF THE CONUS (WITH A WEAK DISTURBANCE TRAPPED OVER  
MISSISSIPPI/ALABAMA)...WITH A SPLIT LONG WAVE TROUGH ACROSS WESTERN  
NORTH AMERICA WITH A SOUTHERN BRANCH UPPER LOW MOVING THROUGH THE  
SOUTHERN GREAT BASIN. MID LEVEL ANTICYCLONE CENTERED OVER THE OHIO  
VALLEY/MID ATLANTIC...SOME MOISTURE CIRCULATING AROUND THE WEST/  
NORTH SIDE OF THAT HIGH (1200Z APX SOUNDING PRECIPITABLE WATER 1.06  
INCHES)...IT IS DRIER BOTH IN A RELATIVE AND ABSOLUTE SENSE FROM THE  
MID ATLANTIC INTO MISSOURI WHICH MAY PLAY A PART IN FIRE WEATHER  
ISSUES SUNDAY (MORE ON THAT LATER). SPEAKING OF 1200Z APX  
SOUNDING...STEEP LAPSE RATES BELOW 650MB ATOP A STABLE SURFACE LAYER  
WITH A DECENT RESIDUAL LAYER UP TO ABOUT 825MB. LIFTING MOST  
UNSTABLE PARCEL (850MB/THETA-E 333K) YIELDS NEAR 200J/KG MUCAPE...  
JUST ENOUGH TO DRIVE A SMALL AREA OF CONVECTION FROM GRAND TRAVERSE  
BAY NORTHEAST THROUGH THE TIP OF THE MITT THIS MORNING. AT THE  
SURFACE: 1001MB SURFACE LOW OVER NORTHWEST ONTARIO WITH THE UPPER  
LAKES WELL IN THE WARM SECTOR OF THIS CYCLONE (OBVIOUSLY)...COLD  
FRONT EXTENDS SOUTHWEST FROM THE LOW INTO SOUTH DAKOTA. 1028MB HIGH  
OVER THE MID ATLANTIC WITH SOUTHERLY BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW INTO THE  
GREAT LAKES.  
 
COLD FRONT UPSTREAM WILL BE SLOW TO PUSH EAST SUNDAY AS A FRONTAL  
WAVE DEVELOPING OVER SOUTH DAKOTA WILL RIDE THE FRONT NORTHEAST INTO  
NORTHWEST ONTARIO SUNDAY. STRONGER HEIGHT FALLS SUNDAY NIGHT WILL  
PUSH THE COLD FRONT INTO UPPER MICHIGAN/WISCONSIN BY MONDAY MORNING.  
 
PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS:  
 
LATE CONVECTION THIS AFTERNOON?: MODERATE CU STREAMERS HAVE  
BEEN DEVELOPING ACROSS INTERIOR NORTHERN LOWER...NOT SURPRISING  
GIVEN ABOVE MENTIONED 1200Z APX SOUNDING WHICH MIXED FOR MID  
80S/UPPER 50S YIELDED AN UNCAPPED 500+ J/KG MLCAPE. NOT MUCH IN  
THE WAY OF REFLECTIVITY ABOVE -10C JUST YET...SATELLITE IMAGERY  
SUGGESTS SOME ICE AT CLOUD TOP SO WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR  
DEVELOPMENTS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. THIS PROCESS MAY BE  
AIDED BY LAKE BREEZE CONVERGENCE ALONG THE LAKE HURON SHORELINE  
FROM THE STRAITS SOUTHEAST TO THUNDER BAY.  
 
FIRE DANGER CONCERNS SUNDAY AMID POTENTIAL RECORD WARMTH: ANOTHER  
DAY OF DEEP BOUNDARY LAYER MIXING EXPECTED SUNDAY...AS A RESULT WILL  
BE A BREEZY/WINDY DAY FROM THE SOUTH. STRONGEST WINDS SHOULD BE  
ACROSS WESTERN MACKINAC COUNTY (ACTUALLY SHOULD BE AN EAST-WEST  
GRADIENT IN WINDS ACROSS EASTERN UPPER)...WHERE WIND GUSTS OF 25-35+  
MPH PROBABLE DURING THE AFTERNOON. WIND GUSTS ACROSS NORTHERN LOWER  
MORE IN THE 20-30MPH RANGE. THE DRIER AIR WRAPPING AROUND THE MID  
LEVEL HIGH MENTIONED EARLIER SHOULD PLAY A ROLE IN ALLOWING FOR  
LOWER DEW POINTS SUNDAY AFTERNOON THAN TODAY (DEW POINTS IN THE 50S  
AND LOWER 60S THIS AFTERNOON)...PROBABLY MORE LIKE 50-55F FOR  
MINIMUM DEW POINTS. RELUCTANT TO GO TOO HOG WILD WITH THE DRYING  
GIVEN UPSTREAM DEW POINTS. HIGH TEMPERATURES SUNDAY WILL STILL BE  
IN THE 80S...MAY BE A DEGREE OR TWO COOLER THAN TODAY BUT WILL STILL  
THREATEN SOME RECORDS (MORE ON THAT BELOW). BUT AS DISCUSSED  
YESTERDAY WILL NEED TO SEE DEW POINTS IN THE MID 40S TO GET RED FLAG  
CRITERIA RELATIVE HUMIDITY VALUES. SO DEFINITELY ANOTHER ELEVATED  
FIRE DANGER DAY IN THE WORKS.  
 
HIGH TEMPERATURE RECORDS FOR SUNDAY INCLUDE 81 ANJ (2005)/82 GLR  
(2005)/84 PLN (2005)/85 APN (2005)/87 TVC (1922)/88 HTL (1922). TVC  
AND HTL MAY BE SAFE...BUT THE OTHERS WILL BE CLOSE.  
 
HIGH RIP CURRENT RISK ON LAKE MICHIGAN SUNDAY: WHILE WE ARE  
TECHNICALLY OUT OF BEACH HAZARD SEASON...WILL GO AHEAD AND  
ISSUE A SURF ZONE FORECAST AND A BEACH HAZARD STATEMENT WITH  
SEVERAL LAKE MICHIGAN COUNTIES WITH A MODERATE TO HIGH SWIM RISK  
ON A DAY WHERE WARM TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY DRAW LATE SEASON  
BEACHGOERS.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM /SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 309 PM EDT SAT OCT 4 2025  
 
DAYS 2-3 (MONDAY-TUESDAY): APPROACHING COLD FRONT WILL BE ON OUR  
DOORSTEP MONDAY MORNING...AND SHOULD BE ACCOMPANIED BY A BAND OF  
WHAT LOOKS TO BE MOSTLY POST-FRONTAL/ANAFRONT PRECIPITATION. COULD  
SEE SOME AFTERNOON CONVECTION AHEAD OF THE FRONT ACROSS ABOUT THE  
SOUTHEAST HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA. NORTHWEST-SOUTHEAST ORIENTED  
THERMAL GRADIENT ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA MONDAY AFTERNOON...WITH  
TEMPERATURES LIKELY FALLING INTO THE 50S ACROSS UPPER MICHIGAN...  
WHILE HIGHS NEAR SAGINAW BAY WILL LIKELY WARM INTO THE LOWER 80S.  
 
THIS ANAFRONT NATURE TO THE PRECIPITATION WILL KEEP RAIN CHANCES  
GOING FOR MOST OF THE FORECAST AREA MONDAY NIGHT AND INTO TUESDAY  
MORNING...LOOKS LIKE A SOLID 0.25-0.50+ INCH OF RAIN EXPECTED OVER  
AREAS WHERE D1 (MODERATE DROUGHT) IS ENCROACHING NORTHWARD. BACK TO  
MORE TYPICAL EARLY OCTOBER TEMPERATURES FOR TUESDAY (HIGHS IN THE  
60S).  
 
DAYS 4-5 (WEDNESDAY-THURSDAY): HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE GREAT  
LAKES FOR MIDWEEK...WHICH SHOULD DRY THINGS OUT BUT SET UP THE  
POTENTIAL FOR FROST DEVELOPMENT WEDNESDAY AND ESPECIALLY THURSDAY  
MORNING.  
 
DAYS 6-7 OUTLOOK (FRIDAY-SATURDAY): TRENDS STILL SUGGEST SHOWER  
CHANCES RETURN TO END THE WEEK ALONG WITH SEASONABLE  
TEMPERATURES.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z SUNDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 132 PM EDT SAT OCT 4 2025  
 
VFR. STRONG LOW PRESSURE OVER NORTHWEST ONTARIO AND STRONG HIGH  
PRESSURE OVER THE HAMPTON ROADS AREA WILL WORK TOGETHER TO DRUM  
UP PERSISTENT S TO SSW FLOW ACROSS THE REGION TODAY, WITH SOME  
15 TO 20 KTS GUSTS POSSIBLE THROUGH SUNSET. WINDS SUBSIDE A BIT  
THIS EVENING INTO TONIGHT, WITH JUST SOME HIGH CLOUD. DESPITE  
THAT, ANTICIPATING A PERIOD OF LLWS AT BOTH CIU AND PLN TONIGHT  
WITH WEAKER SURFACE FLOW AND STRONGER FLOW ALOFT. SURFACE WINDS  
CRANK BACK UP INTO SUNDAY, WITH GUSTS OF 25 TO 30 KTS CERTAINLY  
ON THE TABLE BY LATE MORNING AND INTO THE AFTERNOON.  
 

 
   
APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...BEACH HAZARDS STATEMENT FROM SUNDAY MORNING THROUGH SUNDAY  
EVENING FOR MIZ025-031-095.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 2 PM SUNDAY TO 8 AM EDT MONDAY FOR  
LHZ345.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 10 AM SUNDAY TO 5 PM EDT MONDAY FOR  
LMZ323-342-344>346.  
GALE WATCH FROM SUNDAY EVENING THROUGH LATE SUNDAY NIGHT FOR  
LMZ341.  
 

 
 

 
 
SHORT TERM...JPB  
LONG TERM...JPB  
AVIATION...HAD  
 
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