780  
FXUS63 KAPX 060530  
AFDAPX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GAYLORD MI  
1230 AM EST THU NOV 6 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- TURNING COLDER TONIGHT WITH SOME LIGHT LAKE EFFECT RAIN AND SNOW  
SHOWERS.  
 
- MORE RAIN SHOWERS ARRIVE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY.  
 
- SHARPLY COOLER THIS WEEKEND INTO EARLY NEXT WEEK WITH THE  
POTENTIAL FOR ACCUMULATING LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM /THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON/  
 
ISSUED AT 138 PM EST WED NOV 5 2025  
 
PATTERN SYNOPSIS/FORECAST:  
 
DEVELOPING SURFACE LOW WORKING STEADILY EAST OF THE AREA, TAKING THE  
STEADY RAIN QUICKLY ALONG WITH IT. DRY CONDITIONS SPREADING RAPIDLY  
EAST BEHIND THIS DEPARTING RAIN, WITH JUST A FEW LIGHT LAKE INDUCED  
SHOWERS ROTATING OFF LAKE SUPERIOR. INCREASINGLY GUSTY NORTHWEST  
WINDS USHERING IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF COLD AIR ADVECTION...WITH  
SOME AREAS ALREADY GUSTING WELL OVER 25 MPH.  
 
COLD AIR WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT INTO THE REGION THIS AFTERNOON INTO  
TONIGHT, SETTING UP SOME LAKE RESPONSE IN THE PROCESS. FLOW REGIME  
REMAINS A FAST ONE, WITH BUILDING MID/UPPER LEVEL HEIGHTS AND  
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE ARRIVING LATER TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY.  
 
PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS:  
 
LAKE SHOWER EVOLUTION AND WHAT FORM THOSE SHOWERS WILL TAKE TONIGHT.  
 
DETAILS:  
 
EXPECT LAKE SHOWERS TO GRADUALLY BECOME MORE ORGANIZED LATER THIS  
AFTERNOON INTO THIS EVENING AS H8 TEMPERATURES DROP SEVERAL DEGREES  
BELOW ZERO...SETTING UP A MORE THAN ADEQUATE OVER-WATER THERMAL  
GRADIENT. BEST SYNOPTIC SUPPORT/MOISTURE CONTRIBUTION IS QUICKLY  
EXITING, WITH MOST ORGANIZED AND DEEPEST MOISTURE LINGERING ACROSS  
LAKE SUPERIOR. EXPECT BEST RESPONSE OFF THAT LAKE, AIDED BY  
RESPECTABLE INVERSION LEVEL HEIGHTS UP TO THE H7 LEVEL THIS EVENING  
INTO THE EARLY OVERNIGHT. CONDITIONS A BIT LESS IMPRESSIVE OFF  
NORTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN, WITH BOTH A BIT LOWER CONVECTIVE CLOUD  
DEPTHS AND MORE DISJOINTED LOW LEVEL MOISTURE PROFILES. MELTING  
LEVELS WILL CONTINUE TO SHRINK AWAY FROM THOSE BIG WATERS, REACHING  
SUB 1KFT LEVELS BY LATER THIS EVENING AND OVERNIGHT. THIS DEFINITELY  
SUPPORTS SNOW AT LEAST MIXING IN WITH SHOWERS AT TIMES, WITH ALL  
SNOW AT TIMES A REAL POSSIBILITY WITH ANY HEAVIER SHOWERS. NOT  
EXPECTING MUCH IN THE WAY OF ACCUMULATION, BUT WOULDN'T RULE OUT  
SOME WHITENING OF THE LANDSCAPE...ESPECIALLY IN THOSE FAVORED  
INTERIOR LAKE PRONE AREAS OF EASTERN UPPER MICHIGAN AND THE INTERIOR  
HIGHLANDS OF NORTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN. EXPECT SHOWER COVERAGE TO  
GRADUALLY DECREASE TOWARD SUNRISE THURSDAY AS RISING HEIGHTS LOWER  
THE CONVECTIVE BOUNDARY LAYER AND MOISTURE PROFILES CONTINUE TO THIN.  
 
PERHAPS A FEW LINGERING LAKE EFFECT RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS EARLY THURSDAY  
MORNING...ESPECIALLY ACROSS EASTERN UPPER MICHIGAN. OTHERWISE,  
EXPECT A DRY DAY ACROSS THE NORTHWOODS WITH HIGH PRESSURE BOTH AT  
THE SURFACE AND ALOFT SPREADING OVERHEAD. HIGH TEMPERATURES THURSDAY  
WILL BE ABOUT RIGHT ON PAR FOR WERE THEY SHOULD BE FOR EARLY  
NOVEMBER...WITH AFTERNOON READINGS TOPPING OUT IN THE MIDDLE 40S TO  
LOWER 50S.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM /TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 138 PM EST WED NOV 5 2025  
 
PATTERN SYNOPSIS/FORECAST:  
 
AGGRESSIVE NORTHERN STREAM FLOW WILL SEND YET ANOTHER SHORTWAVE  
TROUGH AND COLD FRONT ACROSS THE REGION LATER THURSDAY NIGHT INTO  
FRIDAY MORNING. NOW BOTH WELL ADVERTISED AND GUIDANCE SUPPORTED LONG-  
WAVE AMPLIFICATION SET TO TAKE PLACE THEREAFTER, CARVING OUT DEEP  
TROUGHING ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES THIS WEEKEND INTO THE BEGINNING  
STAGES OF NEXT WEEK. THIS WILL SET THE STAGE FOR OUR FIRST VISIT OF  
SOME TRUE WINTER WEATHER ACROSS THE REGION.  
 
PRIMARY FORECAST CONCERNS:  
 
TEMPERATURE TRENDS AND ADDRESSING RAIN AND SNOW SHOWER EVOLUTION  
(SNOW AMOUNTS) THROUGH THE PERIOD.  
 
DETAILS:  
 
BAND OF RAIN SHOWERS EXPECTED TO SWEEP ACROSS OUR AREA LATER  
THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY MORNING, WITH SOME WEAK LAKE RESPONSE  
EXPECTED DURING THE AFTERNOON. LOSS OF SYNOPTIC SUPPORT AND  
DISORGANIZED WIND FIELDS SUGGESTS ANY LAKE EFFECT WILL BE LIMITED  
FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY, WITH MOST AREAS LIKELY REMAINING DRY.  
 
TROUGH DEEPENING KICKS INTO OVERDRIVE SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY  
WITH STRONG WAVE SET TO CUT ACROSS THE LOWER LAKES/NORTHERN OHIO  
VALLEY WHILE ADDITIONAL SHORTWAVE TROUGHING DIGS SOUTH OUT OF  
NORTHERN ONTARIO. OVERALL TRENDS IS FOR MAIN IMPACTS WITH THAT LEAD  
WAVE TO LARGELY MISS US OFF TO THE SOUTH (COULD BE AN INTERESTING  
EVENT ACROSS SOUTHERN MICHIGAN). LAKE EFFECT PROCESSES TAKE CENTER  
STAGE UP THIS WAY AS STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION ARRIVES SUNDAY INTO  
MONDAY. SIMPLE MAGNITUDE OF THE OVER-WATER THERMAL GRADIENT (H8  
TEMPERATURES ANTICIPATED TO FALL INTO THE LOWER NEGATIVE TEENS)  
SUPPORTS THE DEVELOPMENT OF LAKE SHOWERS. HOWEVER, UNCERTAINTY WITH  
REGARDS TO SYNOPTIC MOISTURE SUPPORT AND PREVAILING WIND DIRECTION  
REMAINS SIGNIFICANT. AS OF NOW, GUIDANCE SUGGESTS A PRIMARILY NORTH  
TO NORTH-NORTHWEST WIND COMPONENT THROUGH THE CONVECTIVE  
LAYER...RELEGATING BEST LAKE SHOWERS INTO CENTRAL UPPER MICHIGAN AND  
FOR AREAS ALONG AND WEST OF US-131 IN NORTHERN MICHIGAN..AS WELL AS  
ALONG THE IMMEDIATE LAKE HURON COASTAL AREAS. IF THIS COMES TO PASS,  
THIS WILL PUNT BEST SNOW POTENTIAL WEST OF EASTERN UPPER MICHIGAN,  
WITH THE FOCUS FOR AREAS SOUTH OF THE BIG BRIDGE CENTERED IN THE  
HIGHLANDS NEAR AND SOUTH OF THE GRAND TRAVERSE BAY REGION. WILL  
DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO MONITOR AS ANY MORE OF A PURE NORTHWEST  
COMPONENT THAN CURRENTLY ADVERTISED WOULD TARGET MORE OF OUR  
TRADITIONAL LAKE PRONE AREAS....WITH A TOO NORTHERLY COMPONENT  
LIKELY KEEPING BEST SNOW POTENTIAL LARGELY OUT OF OUR AREA  
ALTOGETHER (PERHAPS THE HIGHLANDS OF LEELANUA COUNTY?). MUCH MORE  
CONFIDENCE WITH REGARDS TO THOSE COLDER TEMPERATURES...WITH HIGHS BY  
SUNDAY LIKELY NOT GETTING OUT OF THE 30S AWAY FROM THOSE COASTAL  
COMMUNITIES. GUSTY NORTH WINDS WILL ONLY MAKE IT FEEL SEVERAL  
DEGREES COLDER.  
 
GUIDANCE TRENDS SUPPORT TROUGHING STEADILY EXITING THE REGION AS WE  
HEAD INTO THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK...GRADUALLY ENDING THE LAKE  
PROCESSES AND EVENTUALLY BRINGING SOME MODIFICATION BACK INTO THE  
NORTHWOODS.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z FRIDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1230 AM EST THU NOV 6 2025  
 
A STRAY MVFR CIG/VSBY MAY BE POSSIBLE IN DECAYING LAKE EFFECT  
CLOUDS/PRECIP INTO THURSDAY MORNING. OTHERWISE VFR. LLWS WILL  
RAMP UP LATE THU EVENING AT TVC/MBL, AHEAD OF OUR NEXT SYSTEM.  
WNW TO W BREEZES, A TOUCH GUSTY AT TIMES ON THURSDAY, BUT NOT AS  
MUCH AS WEDNESDAY.  
 
 
   
APX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 5 AM EST EARLY THIS MORNING FOR  
LHZ345-346-349.  
GALE WARNING UNTIL 4 AM EST EARLY THIS MORNING FOR LHZ347-348.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 5 AM EST EARLY THIS MORNING FOR  
LMZ323-341-342-344>346.  
GALE WATCH FROM THIS EVENING THROUGH FRIDAY MORNING FOR  
LMZ344>346.  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 5 AM EST EARLY THIS MORNING FOR  
LSZ321-322.  
 
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...MSB  
LONG TERM...MSB  
AVIATION...DJC/JZ  
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