053  
FXUS63 KARX 171730  
AFDARX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LA CROSSE WI  
1130 AM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- ACTIVE WEATHER FOR THE UPCOMING WEEK WITH POTENTIAL FOR  
RAINFALL EXCEEDING 1" (MON-TUE-EC/GEFS/CANADIAN ENSEMBLES  
40-80% PROBABILITY).  
 
- TURNING COLDER WEDNESDAY INTO THE WEEKEND  
WITH HIGHS IN THE 30S AND 40S. SOME POTENTIAL FOR RAIN/SNOW  
MIDWEEK (40-70% PROBABILITY FOR MEASURABLE SNOW OF 0.1" OR  
MORE, BUT WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO ASSESS). STILL BREEZY  
SEVERAL DAYS THIS WEEK.  
 
 
   
UPDATE  
 
ISSUED AT 1130 AM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
THE FORECAST FOR MONDAY AND MONDAY NIGHT REMAINS ON TRACK WITH  
RAIN OVERSPREADING THE AREA FROM SOUTH TO NORTH MAINLY MONDAY  
AFTERNOON. MONDAY MORNING WILL BE DRY FOR THE KIDS AT THE BUS  
STOP. AMOUNTS STILL LOOK ON TRACK TO BE AT LEAST AN INCH  
AREAWIDE. THE 17.12Z HREF 25-75TH PERCENTILE RANGE IS THE  
HIGHEST ACROSS SOUTHWEST WI AT 1-1.5" - THE AREA THAT SEEMS TO  
HAVE THE BEST ACCESS TO SOME MUCAPE IN THE 300-500 J/KG RANGE  
PER THE LATEST RAP. THE 90TH PERCENTILE /WORST CASE SCENARIO/ FROM  
VIROQUA S-SWWRD TOWARD CEDAR RAPIDS IA IS AROUND 2".  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 351 AM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
OVERVIEW:  
 
THE CLOUDS LIMITED HIGHS SATURDAY TO THE MID 40S TO LOWER 50S, BUT  
STILL ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURES. ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS DID DEVELOP  
OVER NORTHEAST IOWA INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN AND ALSO WITH A  
SECONDARY LINE LATER IN THE EVENING AS THE SHOWERS INCREASED OVER  
PARTS OF JUNEAU AND ADAMS COUNTIES. WIND GUSTS RANGED FROM 25 TO  
35 MPH FOR WISCONSIN TO 35 TO 45 MPH FOR PARTS OF IOWA AND  
MINNESOTA. THE STRONGER WIND GUSTS WERE AT RST, BYRON, AND  
PRESTON. THE LATEST SUBJECTIVE SURFACE ANALYSIS HAD AN OCCLUDED  
FRONT OVER EASTERN MINNESOTA WITH A WARM FRONT TOWARD KOLZ AND  
MLI. SOME PATCHY LIGHT RAIN CONTINUED OVER PARTS OF SOUTHERN  
WISCONSIN WITH THE AREA OF FRONTOGENESIS/VORTICITY ADVECTION.  
THE 500MB TROUGH WAS STILL TO THE WEST OVER THE DAKOTAS.  
RAINFALL AMOUNTS HAVE BEEN LIGHT, GENERALLY 0.05" OR LESS. THE  
WSR-88D RADAR ESTIMATES SHOW THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME SPOTTY  
0.05 TO 0.15" AMOUNTS WITH THE STRONGER SHOWERS/STORMS. THE  
LATEST GOES NIGHT MICROPHYSICS SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWED THE  
CLEARING SKIES AT RST WITH CLOUDS TO THE EAST AND WRAP-AROUND  
CLOUDS ACROSS NORTHERN MINNESOTA.  
 
ACTIVE WEATHER FOR THE UPCOMING WEEK WITH POTENTIAL FOR  
RAINFALL EXCEEDING 1" (MON-TUE-EC/GEFS/CANADIAN ENSEMBLES  
40-80% PROBABILITY). TURNING COLDER WEDNESDAY INTO THE WEEKEND  
WITH HIGHS IN THE 30S AND 40S. SOME POTENTIAL FOR RAIN/SNOW  
MIDWEEK (40-80%) PROBABILITY FOR MEASURABLE SNOW OF 0.1" OR  
MORE, BUT WILL NEED TO CONTINUE TO ASSESS):  
 
WATER VAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY AND HEIGHTS SHOWED THE FULL LATITUDE  
TROUGH STRETCHING FROM ONE CLOSED LOW OVER SOUTHERN CANADA/NORTH  
DAKOTA AND ANOTHER CLOSED LOW OVER THE SOUTHWEST U.S. AND A RIDGE TO  
THE EAST AND THE WEST OF THIS TROUGH. THROUGH TODAY, THE SOUTHERN  
PART OF THE FORECAST AREA COULD GET CLIPPED WITH MORE SPRINKLES WITH  
MID LEVEL MOISTURE/VORTICITY ADVECTION LINGERING TODAY. THE CLOSED  
LOW LIFTS FARTHER NORTH INTO ONTARIO. THE HREF KEEPS THINGS DRY  
AND THE RAP DRIES OUT THE 850MB LAYER AFTER 12 OR 13Z, THUS  
WILL KEEP THE MEASURABLE POPS SOUTH OF THE AREA. TEMPERATURES  
ARE STARTING OUT MILD AND WITH MORE SUNSHINE, ARE LOOKING FOR  
HIGHS IN THE UPPER 40S TO LOWER 50S.  
 
TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY, THE CLOSED LOW OVER THE SOUTHWEST U.S.  
WILL LIFT NORTHEAST THROUGH THE PLAINS, DEEPENING , BECOMING  
NEGATIVELY TILTED, AND MERGING WITH THE TROUGH OVER THE PACIFIC  
NORTHWEST. 850 MB MOISTURE TRANSPORT VECTORS SHOW A MARKED  
INCREASE FROM MONDAY 12Z TO 18Z ACROSS IOWA AND THE MOISTURE  
TRANSPORT STRENGTHEN ACROSS THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY THROUGH  
MONDAY NIGHT. IN RESPONSE TO THIS, PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES OF  
LESS THAN 0.50" CLIMB TO 1 TO 1.25". THE 17.00Z NAEFS SHOWS  
THIS IS 3 TO 4 STANDARD DEVIATIONS ABOVE NORMAL. THE  
PRECIPITATION SHIELD IS FORECAST TO OVERSPREAD THE FORECAST AREA  
FROM SOUTH TO NORTH DURING THE DAY MONDAY, DECREASING FROM SOUTH  
TO NORTH DURING THE DAY TUESDAY. THE EFI CONTINUE TO SHOW  
ANOMALOUS PRECIPITATION WHEN COMPARED TO CLIMATOLOGY WITH THE  
SHIFT OF TAILS 1 TO 2 OVER CENTRAL MINNESOTA AND EASTERN  
DAKOTAS. THE ECMWF, CANADIAN, AND GEFS ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO  
SHOW HIGH PROBABILITIES (40-80%) FOR 1" OF RAINFALL FOR THE  
FORECAST AREA. CANNOT RULE OUT ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WITH THE  
STRONGER MOISTURE TRANSPORT. MUCAPE VALUES SHOWS LIMITED  
INSTABILITY WITH POCKETS OF 100 OR 150 J/KG. BOTH SPC/CSU  
SEVERE WEATHER PROBABILITIES REMAIN SOUTH OF THE FORECAST AREA  
MONDAY. DID NOTICE SPC ADDED A GENERAL THUNDER AREA FOR TUESDAY  
AS THE UPPER LEVEL TROUGH BECOMES NEGATIVELY TILTED. WITH THE  
CAPE WEAKENING OVER THE AREA, HAVE LEFT OUT THUNDER MENTION ON  
TUESDAY FOR NOW. COLDER AIR EVENTUALLY WRAPS INTO THE SYSTEM  
THROUGH THE DAY TUESDAY. IF THERE IS STILL ANY PRECIPITATION, IT  
COULD TRY TO MIX WITH SNOW. WE CURRENTLY HAVE HIGHS IN THE  
UPPER 40S AND 50S THROUGH TUESDAY. WILL NEED TO MONITOR THIS  
THOUGH AS THIS TIME OF YEAR, CLOUDS AND PRECIPITATION CAN LIMIT  
THE HIGHS.  
 
WPC HAS MUCH OF AREA IN THE 5% RISK FOR EXCESSIVE RAINFALL. THE 6-  
HR RAINFALL FLASH FLOOD GUIDANCE IS GENERALLY 2.25" TO 3", SO WITH  
NO FROST IN THE GROUND, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE RAIN THAT IS  
BEING FORECAST.  
 
AS THE LARGE CLOSED LOW LINGERS OVER THE UPPER MISSISSIPPI VALLEY  
WEDNESDAY AND FINALLY MOVES EAST THURSDAY, A RAIN/SNOW MIX IS  
FORECAST WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. THE TRACK COULD STILL CHANGE  
THROUGH WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY, BUT THE 17.00Z ECE/GEFS/CANADIAN  
ENSEMBLES HAVE A 40 TO 70% CHANCE OF MEASURABLE SNOW (0.1" OR MORE)  
OF SNOW AND 20-40% PROBABILITY OF 1" OR MORE.  
 
MUCH COOLER TEMPERATURES FOR WEDNESDAY INTO THE WEEKEND WITH  
HIGHS IN THE 30S AND 40S. BRISK WIND GUSTS ARE STILL FORECAST  
FOR MUCH OF THE WEEK.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z MONDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1130 AM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD WITH WEATHER  
INCREASING MONDAY AFTERNOON AND INTO THE OVERNIGHT.  
IT IS EXPECTED THAT MVFR CONDITIONS WILL OVERSPREAD THE AREA  
FROM SOUTH TO NORTH MONDAY WITH IFR CIGS FOLLOWING SHORTLY  
BEHIND...POSSIBLY WITHIN 3 HOURS. TIMING OF THE MVFR CEILING  
ONSET LOOKS TO BE 16-18Z ACROSS SOUTHWEST WI AND NORTHEAST  
IOWA...ARRIVING IN THE NORTH CENTRAL WI /KAUW/ VICINITY 22-00Z.  
 
 
   
ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
WI...NONE.  
MN...NONE.  
IA...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
 
UPDATE...BAUMGARDT  
DISCUSSION...ZAPOTOCNY  
AVIATION...BAUMGARDT  
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