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FXUS63 KARX 182008  
AFDARX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LA CROSSE WI  
208 PM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- WIDESPREAD RAIN THROUGH TONIGHT WILL BRING A GENERAL 1-1.5  
INCHES, WITH LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS. IT WILL TURN WINDY AS  
WELL WITH PEAK GUSTS IN THE 40 TO 45 MPH RANGE POSSIBLE..  
 
- SNOW CHANCES ON WEDNESDAY INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT, WITH A 50 TO  
80% CHANCE OF 0.1 INCHES OR MORE TO OCCUR, WILL BE  
ACCOMPANIED BY BREEZY WESTERLY WINDS.  
 
- COOLER TEMPERATURES FROM WEDNESDAY THROUGH THE WEEKEND WITH  
HIGHS IN THE MID 30S TO LOW 40S.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 208 PM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
 
WELL ADVERTISED AND DYNAMIC WAVE CONTINUES TO APPROACH THIS  
AFTERNOON AS STRONG FORCING AND ANOMALOUSLY STRONG MOISTURE  
ADVECTION HAVE LED TO A LARGE PRECIPITATION SWATH. MOST UNSTABLE  
CAPE VALUES VIA ENSEMBLE MEANS REALLY GET PINCHED OFF THE FURTHER  
NORTH YOU GO SO JUST NOT SEEING MUCH SIGNAL FOR THUNDER.  
 
FORECAST DETAILS APPEAR ON TRACK WITH THIS WARM SECTOR SCENARIO AND  
EXPECTED RAINFALL TOTALS HAVE REMAINED SURPRISINGLY CONSISTENT,  
GENERALLY IN THE 1 TO 1.5" RANGE. ENSEMBLE PROBABILITIES DROP OFF  
OVER THIS RANGE BUT AN OUTLIER SCENARIO /10-20%/ COULD LEAD TO  
ISOLATED AMOUNTS CLOSER TO 2 INCHES ACROSS PARTS OF NORTHEAST IOWA  
INTO SOUTHERN WISCONSIN. FORWARD PROGRESSION OF PRECIPITATION SHOULD  
KEEP IMPACTS TO A MINIMUM, EVEN WITH A FEW RIVER FORECAST MODELS  
BRINGING TRIBUTARIES SOUTH OF INTERSTATE 90 INTO ACTION STAGE.  
 
ANOTHER ITEM TO WATCH TONIGHT WILL BE INCREASE IN WIND FIELD AS  
PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED WAVE BECOMES MORE NEGATIVELY TILTED. ALREADY  
NOTING IMPRESSIVE INCREASES IN LOW LEVEL VAD WIND FIELDS ON WSR88DS  
TO THE SOUTH BUT UNSURE HOW MUCH TRUE MIXING WILL ACCOMPANY THIS LOW  
LEVEL JET, EVEN WITH IMPRESSIVE WIND SPEEDS /40-60KTS/ A FEW  
THOUSAND FEET OFF THE SURFACE. SOME ENSEMBLE MEMBERS HIGHLIGHT THESE  
STRONGER WINDS BUT CONFIDENCE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH FOR WIND RELATED  
HEADLINES. COULD CERTAINLY SEE SOME GUSTS IN EXCESS OF 40 MPH SO  
WILL HAVE TO BE WATCH THIS TREND AND MIGHT NEED SOME ADDITIONAL  
MESSAGING TO CONVEY A POTENTIAL THREAT.  
 
BY TUESDAY MORNING, WAVE WILL BE PASSING BUT ALSO BECOME PHASED WITH  
ANOTHER SHORT WAVE DROPPING INTO THE NORTHERN PLAINS FROM SOUTHERN  
CANADA. AREA WILL LIKELY BE MORE INTO THE DRY SECTOR WITH CHANCE FOR  
SOME DRY TIME AND LIGHTER WINDS. FRONT WILL ALSO BE APPROACHING FROM  
THE WEST AND PROVIDE A WIND SHIFT AND CHANGE TO A COLD AIR ADVECTION  
REGIME BY LATE DAY.  
 
WEDNESDAY - THURSDAY: NEXT PRECIPITATION CHANCE, SNOW?  
 
THE STORM SYSTEM THAT IS CURRENTLY PRODUCING RAIN AND WIND WILL  
WEAKEN AND GET ABSORBED BY THE BIGGER LONGWAVE TROUGH. AS THIS  
LONGWAVE TROUGH SHIFTS EASTWARD, IT WILL DEEPEN OVER THE UPPER  
MIDWEST. THIS WILL BRING COOLER TEMPERATURES AND GUSTY WEST TO  
NORTHWEST WINDS ON WEDNESDAY. WIND GUSTS ON WEDNESDAY ARE FORECASTED  
TO BE 20 TO 30 MPH. TEMPERATURES WILL BE COLD ENOUGH THAT ANY  
PRECIPITATION THAT DOES FALL WOULD BE SNOW. ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE  
POSSIBLE ON GRASSY SURFACES AND HIGHER ELEVATION. WHEN LOOKING AT  
HOW MUCH SNOW WE WILL GET, THERE CONTINUES TO BE A GOOD SIGNAL (50  
TO 80%) THAT MEASURABLE SNOW (>0.1") WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE  
FORECAST AREA. TOTAL ACCUMULATIONS LOOK TO BE BETWEEN A TRACE TO  
AROUND 0.5", HOWEVER THERE IS A LOW CHANCE (10 TO 30%) THAT OVER AN  
INCH WILL BE POSSIBLE, MAINLY FOR AREAS NORTH OF I-90. COMPARED TO  
THE PREVIOUS FORECAST, THE SNOW SQUALL PARAMETER FROM THE NAM STILL  
SHOWS VALUES BETWEEN 1 AND 4 WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING. THERE  
CONTINUES TO BE SOME INSTABILITY, UP TO 100 J/KG OF SBCAPE, STEEP  
LAPSE RATES, AND GUSTY WINDS. EVEN WITH THE LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS THAT  
ARE EXPECTED, THERE REMAINS A GOOD CHANCE THAT REDUCED VISIBILITIES  
COULD OCCUR GIVEN THESE CONDITIONS.  
 
FRIDAY - THE WEEKEND: NEAR NORMAL TEMPERATURES, DRIER  
 
AFTER THIS SYSTEM EXITS, RIDGING BUILDS IN, HOWEVER OUR AREA IS  
FORECASTED TO BE ON THE EDGE OF THE RIDGE AND MAINTAIN A NORTHWEST  
FLOW. WITH THIS FLOW PATTERN, HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL BE IN THE MID  
30S TO LOW 40S. HEADING INTO SUNDAY, ENSEMBLE AND DETERMINISTIC  
GUIDANCE BEGINS TO SPLIT ON WHAT WILL HAPPEN. THE GEFS FAVORS A  
BREAKDOWN OF THE RIDGE AND HAS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH PASS THROUGH THE  
AREA. ABOUT 70% OF GEFS MEMBERS FAVOR THIS SOLUTION. OF THOSE 70%,  
ABOUT HALF SHOW MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION. THE EPS REMAINS MOSTLY DRY  
FOR SUNDAY. BOTH GEFS AND EPS SHOW POTENTIAL FOR AN UNSETTLED  
PATTERN NEXT WEEK WITH SCATTERED PRECIPITATION CHANCES.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z TUESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1143 AM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
 
AS PRECIPITATION SHIELD ADVANCES INTO THE AREA, ALONG WITH  
INFLUX OF BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE, AVIATION WEATHER CONDITIONS  
WILL DETERIORATE THIS AFTERNOON. IN ADDITION, EXPECT SOUTHEAST  
WINDS TO INCREASE AS THIS STRONGER WAVE ADVECTS OUR AREA. VFR  
CONDITIONS WILL DROP TO FAIRLY WIDESPREAD LIFR WHICH COULD LAST WELL  
INTO TUESDAY MORNING. WHILE ENSEMBLE GUIDANCE IS A BIT MORE LEAN  
ON LIFR CHANCES (25-40%), UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST  
DIFFERENTLY.  
 
WILL REMAIN RELATIVELY OPTIMISTIC, AS DRY SECTOR WORKS IN  
TUESDAY MORNING, THAT CEILINGS WILL IMPROVE SOMEWHAT. HARD TO  
PROVIDE DETAIL THAT FAR OUT GIVEN SUCH A DYNAMIC SYSTEM BUT  
TRIED TO TREND A DRIER PERIOD WITH SLIGHTLY BETTER CONDITIONS,  
EVEN AS WINDS REMAIN RELATIVELY STRONG.  
 

 
   
ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
WI...NONE.  
MN...NONE.  
IA...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...CECAVA/SHEA  
AVIATION...SHEA  
 
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