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FXUS63 KARX 201737  
AFDARX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LA CROSSE WI  
ISSUED BY NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DES MOINES IA  
1137 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS TODAY AND THIS EVENING WITH BREEZY  
WINDS. EXPECT POTENTIAL TRAVEL IMPACTS WITH BRIEF REDUCTIONS  
IN VISIBILITY. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS MOSTLY FROM A TRACE/0.1" TO  
1.5".  
 
- GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS 30 TO 40 MPH+ THURSDAY ALONG WITH A  
RAIN/MIX ESPECIALLY EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 330 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
OVERVIEW:  
 
AN INTENSE 989MB AREA OF LOW PRESSURE WAS LOCATED OVER SOUTHWEST  
MINNESOTA AT 08Z WITH A STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT ACROSS THE DAKOTAS  
INTO MN. THE LATEST WSR-88D RADAR SHOWED LIGHT RAIN DEVELOPING  
IN A BAND JUST EAST OF THE FORECAST AREA TOWARD MSN/MKC INTO  
ILLINOIS AND A BROAD AREA OF SNOW ACROSS THE DAKOTAS INTO  
MINNESOTA. THE LEADING EDGE OF THE PRECIPITATION WAS A MIX OF  
RAIN AND SNOW. EVEN SOME LIGHTNING WAS NOTED NEAR FSD/SOUTHWEST  
MN PER THE GLM DATA. LOCALLY, SURFACE TEMPERATURES WERE IN THE  
30S AND 40S WITH SOUTHWEST TO WEST WINDS AT 5 TO 15 MPH.  
 
WATER VAPOR SATELLITE IMAGERY, AND HEIGHTS, SHOWED THE CENTER OF THE  
CLOSED LOW OVER NORTHERN MINNESOTA WITH TROUGHING EXTENDING  
SOUTHWARD TOWARD IOWA. A RIDGE WAS LOCATED FROM MONTANA THROUGH UTAH  
TOWARD ARIZONA WITH ANOTHER AREA OF CLOSED LOW PRESSURE OFF THE WEST  
COAST.  
 
SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS TODAY AND THIS EVENING WITH BREEZY  
WESTERLY WINDS. EXPECT POTENTIAL TRAVEL IMPACTS WITH BRIEF  
REDUCTIONS IN VISIBILITY. SNOW ACCUMULATIONS MOSTLY FROM A TRACE  
A 0.1" TO 1.5".:  
 
THE SHOWERS TO THE SOUTHEAST WERE FORMING ALONG AN AREA OF  
FRONTOGENESIS AND THE LEADING EDGE OF THE COLDER AIR. THROUGH  
TODAY, THE MID-TROPOSPHERIC CLOSED LOW IS FORECAST TO ELONGATE  
AND DROP SOUTHEAST ACROSS WISCONSIN TOWARD THE OHIO RIVER  
VALLEY. REINFORCING COLD AIR ACCOMPANIED BY DEEPENING MOISTURE  
WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE DAY. THIS COMBINATION IS ALREADY  
PRODUCING A LARGE AREA OF SNOW TO OUR WEST, ESPECIALLY WHERE  
850MB TEMPERATURES ARE -9 DEG C OR COLDER. INITIAL AMOUNTS WERE  
A TRACE, BUT FARTHER TO THE NORTHWEST IN THE DEEP AIR WITHIN THE  
DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE, 3HR PRECIPITATION AMOUNTS WERE FROM A  
TRACE TO 0.07.  
 
STEEP LAPSE RATES AND SATURATION THROUGH THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE  
ARE STILL FORECAST WITH CONVECTIVE TEMPERATURES BEING MET.  
INSTABILITY IS SLIGHTLY LOWER 40 TO 80 J/KG, THE MOST RECENT RUNS OF  
THE NAM/RAP HAVE A SNOW SQUALL PARAMETER LOWER THAN YESTERDAY, MORE  
IN THE 1 TO 2 RANGE AND THE SLIGHT STRONGER SIGNAL ON THE RAP IS  
GOING TO OUR SOUTHWEST OVER PARTS OF IOWA THIS MORNING, HOWEVER  
STILL INCREASE IT IN THE 1 TO 4 RANGE FOR PARTS OF IOWA AND  
SOUTHERN WI 18-00Z. THE SNOW SHOWERS WILL BE VARIABLE, BUT LIGHT  
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS STILL LOOK REASONABLE FOR GRASSY AREAS AND  
HIGHER ELEVATIONS FROM TRACE/0.1" TO 1.5". 20.00Z HREF HAS 30  
TO 70% CHANCE OF MEASURABLE SNOW (0.1" OR MORE) OF SNOW AND 0 TO  
10% PROBABILITY OF 1" OR MORE. PROBABILITIES FOR VISIBILITY  
LESS THAN 1 MI. ARE 10 TO 60%, INCREASING TONIGHT WITH THE  
DEEPENING OF THE COLD AIR/DEPTH OF MOISTURE. THE AXIS OF  
STRONGER WINDS WITH GUSTS 25 TO 35KTS IS FROM MINNESOTA INTO  
IOWA AND WIND ADVISORIES HAVE BEEN POSTED THERE.  
 
WITH IT BEING THE POTENTIAL FOR THE FIRST ACCUMULATING SNOW IF  
TRAVELING, CHECK THE LATEST FORECAST AND ROAD CONDITIONS BEFORE  
HEADING OUT. TYPICALLY THE FIRST 1" OF SNOW AT ROCHESTER IS NOV. 21  
AND FOR LA CROSSE, IT IS NOV. 27TH!  
 
GUSTY NORTHWEST WINDS 30 TO 40 MPH+ THURSDAY ALONG WITH A  
RAIN/MIX ESPECIALLY EAST OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER:  
 
THE LARGE CLOSED LOW OVER MUCH OF THE GREAT LAKES AREA IS FORECAST  
TO HAVE 850MB WINDS OF 50 TO 65+KTS ROTATING AROUND IT. THERE IS  
NOT GREAT AGREEMENT ON HOW STRONG THE WINDS WILL BE. NEARLY ALL THE  
ECE MODELS HAVE GUSTS OF 40 MPH+ AT KLSE, WHILE THE GEFS MODELS  
ONLY 10% HAVE GUSTS 40 MPH+. THE FORECAST SOUNDINGS DO NOT SHOW  
GREAT COLD AIR ADVECTION OR UNIDIRECTIONAL WINDS ALOFT, HOWEVER  
TO HAVE A VERY STRONG ISALLOBARIC COMPONENT TO THE WIND. USING  
ALL AVAILABLE GUIDANCE, THE PROBABILITIES FOR 40+ MPH WIND GUSTS  
FOR THURSDAY RANGE FROM 30 TO 70%. IN ADDITION, A RAIN SNOW MIX  
WILL BE POSSIBLE, WITH LIGHT AMOUNTS AND LITTLE TO NOW SNOW  
ACCUMULATIONS AT THIS TIME.  
 
RIDGING BUILDS IN FOR FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. LIGHT PRECIPITATION  
COULD TRY TO DEVELOP NORTH OF A WARM FRONT SUNDAY AND ALSO WITH THE  
COLD FRONTAL PASSAGE LATER IN THE DAY INTO SUNDAY NIGHT WITH A  
WINTRY MIX  
 
HIGHS TODAY THROUGH THE WEEKEND AND EARLY NEXT WEEK SHOULD MOSTLY  
BE IN THE 30S AND 40S.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z THURSDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1130 AM CST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
MVFR CIGS ARE EXPECTED MUCH OF THE PERIOD THOUGH CIGS WILL  
BOUNCE ABOVE AND BELOW 2 KFT AT TIMES. SNOW SHOWERS REMAIN IN  
THE FORECAST INTO THIS EVENING. PERIODS WITH THE HIGHEST CHANCE  
WITH LOWEST VISIBILITIES ARE HIGHLIGHTED. GUSTY WEST/NORTHWEST  
WINDS TODAY WILL DIMINISH SLIGHTLY OVERNIGHT BUT NEAR SURFACE  
MIXING WILL HELP GUSTS PERSIST. STRONGER WINDS ARE EXPECTED BY  
THURSDAY MORNING WITH SOME GUSTS OVER 35 KTS POSSIBLE. VERY  
LIGHT SNOW MAY ALSO PASS THROUGH THE AREA THU MORNING.  
 

 
   
ARX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
WI...NONE.  
MN...NONE.  
IA...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...ZAPOTOCNY  
AVIATION...DONAVON/DMX  
 
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