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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
623 PM EST SAT DEC 14 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
 
- A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT TONIGHT FOR PORTIONS OF  
SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN AS LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE/RAIN LIFTS INTO THE  
WESTERN AREAS.  
 
- ROADWAYS MAY BECOME SLIPPERY LATE TONIGHT BEFORE PRECIPITATION  
TRANSITIONS TO ALL LIQUID RAIN BY SUNDAY MORNING.  
 
- SEASONABLY WARM TEMPERATURES BREAK THE 50 DEGREE MARK (SOUTH OF I-  
69) MONDAY WITH MORE RAIN, THEN READINGS DECLINE THROUGHOUT THE  
WORKWEEK.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
CEILINGS WILL GRADUALLY LOWER THIS EVENING AS WEAKENING LOW PRESSURE  
ENCROACHES FROM THE SOUTHWEST. THIS SYSTEM WILL THEN BRING RAPIDLY  
INCREASING MOISTURE DURING THE OVERNIGHT PERIOD WHICH WILL RESULT IN  
DETERIORATING AVIATION CONDITIONS AS RAIN OVERSPREADS THE AREA AND  
AND CEILINGS/VISIBILITIES LOWER. AS PRECIPITATION ARRIVES JUST AFTER  
MIDNIGHT, AN INITIAL BRIEF PERIOD OF LIGHT FREEZING RAIN OR DRIZZLE  
WILL OCCUR BEFORE MILDER AIR BRINGS SURFACE TEMPERATURES ABOVE  
FREEZING THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING HOURS. HIGHEST PROBABILITIES FOR  
-FZRA CONTINUE TO EXIST FOR THE TRI-CITIES AND AREAS WEST OF US-23.  
LOW CEILINGS WILL SPREAD IN FROM THE SOUTHWEST DURING THE EARLY  
MORNING WITH HIGH PROBABILITIES FOR IFR THROUGH MUCH OF SUNDAY AS  
ABUNDANT LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE HOLDS. LIFR WILL BE A POSSIBILITY AS  
WELL. POCKETS OF RAIN WILL CONTINUE, ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST  
PART OF THE STATE, THROUGH MUCH OF THE DAYLIGHT HOURS BEFORE  
TAPERING OFF SUNDAY EVENING.  
 
FOR DTW...A VERY LOW PROBABILITY EXISTS FOR LIGHT FREEZING RAIN OR  
DRIZZLE EARLY SUNDAY MORNING /07Z-09Z/ SHOULD PRECIPITATION  
MATERIALIZE AS TEMPERATURES HOVER NEAR FREEZING. A GREATER SURGE OF  
MOISTURE AFTER 09Z WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY WARMING TEMPERATURES,  
SUPPORTING ALL RAIN.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* HIGH FOR CEILINGS AOB 5KFT LATE TONIGHT AND SUNDAY.  
 
* VERY LOW FOR PRECIPITATION TYPE AS FREEZING RAIN BETWEEN 07Z-09Z  
EARLY SUNDAY MORNING.  
 

 
   
PREV DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 415 PM EST SAT DEC 14 2024  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
ALTHOUGH STILL BELOW CLIMATOLOGICAL AVERAGES TODAY, A LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM OVER THE PLAINS AND ITS APPROACHING WARM SECTOR HAVE HELPED  
MODERATE THE AIRMASS AS SOME READINGS CLIMB ABOVE THE FREEZING MARK  
FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE WEDNESDAY. THIS WARM-UP BECOMES MORE  
PRONOUNCED SUNDAY AND MONDAY, BUT NOT BEFORE ANOTHER DOSE OF WINTRY  
WEATHER OVERNIGHT. CONUS 14.12Z RAOB DATA REVEALED THE SYSTEM'S  
ELEVATED WARM FRONT MARKED BY H8 TEMPS OF 3C/4C AT KILX/KILN WHICH  
ATTEMPTS TO PUSH NNE INTO SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN. ACTUAL H8 TEMPS WILL  
LIKELY BE COOLER AS THE LOW-LEVEL WARM AIR ADVECTS INTO THE REGION,  
BUT STILL EXPECT A 2-4 KFT LAYER OF POSITIVE (CELSIUS) AIR BETWEEN H9  
AND H8 WHICH LENDS CONFIDENCE IN LIQUID PRECIPITATION TYPE UPON  
ARRIVAL OF THE LOW'S PRECIPITATION SHIELD. TIMING FOR THIS IS LARGELY  
EXPECTED TO HOLD OFF UNTIL CLOSER TO 03Z AS THE OVER-RUNNING PRECIP  
REACHES THE WESTERN CWA BOUNDARY.  
 
OPTED TO ISSUE A TWO-SEGMENT WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY TONIGHT GIVEN  
ENOUGH CONFIDENCE IN A DRY ESE SURFACE WIND (LOW DEWPOINTS), RETURN  
OF SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES (OFF DAYTIME HIGHS IN THE MID 30S), AND  
AMPLE COLD/SNOW COVERED SURFACES. FOR THE SHORTER SEGMENT WHICH  
ENCOMPASSES THE COUNTIES OUTSIDE OF THE TRI-CITIES (MIDLAND, BAY, AND  
SAGINAW COUNTIES), OVERALL DURATION OF LIGHT FREEZING RAIN/DRIZZLE  
SHOULD ONLY LEAD TO A THIN COATING (AROUND ONE OR TWO HUNDRETHS) OF  
ICING DURING THE FIRST HALF OF THE NIGHT. EVENTUALLY, THE NON-  
DIURNAL WARM ADVECTION WINS OUT AT THE SURFACE AND LIFTS TEMPERATURES  
ABOVE 32F AS (NON-FREEZING) RAINFALL RATES INCREASE. UNCERTAINTY  
STILL EXISTS WITH TIMING THE FRONT-END VIRGA TO PRECIP TRANSITION,  
THE RATE OF EVENING COOLING TO RECONDITION THE LOW-LEVEL THERMAL  
ENVIRONMENT, AND ARRIVAL OF MODERATE RAINFALL WHICH MAY ULTIMATELY  
RESULT IN NEGLIGIBLE ICING IF ALL THREE COMPONENTS FAIL TO  
ASSIMILATE. THIS WOULD, INSTEAD, YIELD JUST A COLD AND SOGGY NIGHT.  
OTHER CONSIDERATIONS OF NOTE FOR THIS SEGMENT INCLUDE THE POTENTIAL  
FOR STARK DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE WESTERN AND EASTERN PORTIONS OF  
EACH COUNTY. GIVEN THE CONDITIONALITY ON TIMING THE CHANGEOVER TO  
PURE LIQUID RAINFALL, THE WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE COUNTIES WILL BE  
MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO FREEZING RAIN ACCUMULATIONS THAN THE EASTERN SIDE  
OF EACH COUNTY. ALSO, MOST OF OAKLAND COUNTY SHOULD AVOID FREEZING  
RAIN, BUT THE TERRAIN EFFECTS ALONG THE IRISH HILLS COULD WARRANT A  
MORE TARGETED SPS (OR LAST-MINUTE UPGRADE) ONCE THE THE EVENT BEGINS  
TO UNFOLD TONIGHT.  
 
AS FOR THE TRI-CITIES, THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS LONGER IN  
DURATION AND WILL LIKELY SEE SLIGHTLY HIGHER ICE TOTALS (BUT STILL  
AOB A TENTH). THIS ACCOUNTS FOR A DELAY IN THE ARRIVAL OF THE WARMER  
AIRMASS (SEE LATEST AIR TEMPERATURE FORECAST) AND LIGHTER  
PRECIPITATION RATES WHICH ARE EXPECTED TO PERSIST UNTIL CLOSER TO  
12Z. THIS AREA ALSO STANDS A BETTER CHANCE TO SEE MORE WIDESPREAD  
IMPACTS TO ROADWAYS (INSTEAD OF JUST ELEVATED SURFACES) AS HIGH  
TEMPERATURES HOLD NEAR/BELOW THE FREEZING MARK THIS AFTERNOON AND  
OVERNIGHT.  
 
AXIS OF MAXIMUM THETAE ADVECTION CURVES CYCLONICALLY UP FROM THE  
OHIO VALLEY INTO SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN LATE TONIGHT INTO SUNDAY  
MORNING BENEATH JET-LEVEL DIVERGENCE WHICH FAVORS PERIODS OF  
MODERATE RAINFALL RATES. SOME AREAS COULD SEE RAINFALL TOTALS  
APPROACHING A HALF INCH BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON. THE MID-LEVEL VORTMAX  
EXITS INTO THE SOUTHERN ONTARIO PENINSULA BY 00Z MONDAY WHICH  
ENSURES ALL LOCATIONS DRY OUT BY SUNSET SUNDAY EVENING. HEIGHT RISES  
FILL-IN AGGRESSIVELY SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY WITH A PERIOD OF  
RIDGING AND DIFFERENTIAL THERMAL ADVECTION. HIGHS BREAK INTO THE 50S  
FOR MUCH OF THE REGION MONDAY AS H8 TEMPS CLIMB INTO THE UPPER  
SINGLE DIGITS (C). CYCLOGENESIS OCCURING OVER THE DAKOTAS DEEPENS TO  
A 998 MB LOW OVER SOUTH-CENTRAL CANADA MONDAY WITH A COLD FRONT  
EXTENDING INTO THE MISSISSIPPI VALLEY. PRE-FRONTAL MOISTURE AND  
PWATS IN EXCESS OF 0.75 INCHES SHOULD LEAD TO ANOTHER ROUND OF RAIN  
MONDAY, THIS TIME FRONTALLY FORCED. COLDER AIR THEN SETTLES IN  
THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE WORKWEEK.  
 
MARINE...  
 
SOUTHEAST WINDS OF 15 TO 25 KNOTS HAVE DEVELOPED OVER LAKE HURON  
THIS AFTERNOON AS EXPECTED, ALLOWING 4+ WAVES TO IMPACT THE  
NEARSHORE ZONES THROUGH TOMORROW, WITH WINDS ATTEMPTING TO BECOME  
MORE DUE SOUTHERLY INTO SUNDAY NIGHT. WARMER AIR WILL GRADUALLY WORK  
INTO THE REGION ALLOWING FOR MOST OF THE PRECIPITATION FALLING AS  
RAIN LATE TONIGHT/SUNDAY AS WEAKENING LOW PRESSURE TRACKS IN FROM  
THE MIDWEST. THIS LOW AND ANY COLD AIR FIZZLE OUT IN FAVOR OF THE  
STRONGER/MORE AMPLIFIED UPPER LEVEL TROUGH OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS  
SUNDAY NIGHT.  
 
RESUMED MODERATE SOUTHERLY FLOW CAN BE EXPECTED WITH ADDITIONAL RAIN  
BY MONDAY. COLD FRONT, ATTACHED TO LOW PRESSURE TRACKING THROUGH  
ONTARIO AND NEAR JAMES BAY, WILL SWING THROUGH THE CENTRAL GREAT  
LAKES EARLY MONDAY EVENING. TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT WITH 850 MB  
TEMPS LOWERING TO AROUND -8 C LOOKS SUPPORTIVE OF WIND GUSTS IN  
THE 30 TO 35 KNOT RANGE OVER CENTRAL AND NORTHERN LAKE HURON, LATE  
MONDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY TUESDAY MORNING. HOWEVER, GUSTS TO GALES  
APPEAR TO BE BRIEF, AS THE PRESSURE GRADIENT QUICKLY RELAXES DURING  
THE DAY ON TUESDAY. THUS, NOT PLANNING ON GALE WATCH AT THIS TIME.  
 
AN EVEN STRONGER COLD FRONT LOOKS TO BE MOVING THROUGH ON WEDNESDAY,  
AND NORTHERLY WINDS LATE WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING WILL  
LIKELY REACH INTO THE 20 TO 30 KNOT RANGE, BUT ULTIMATELY INFLUENCED  
BY THE STRENGTH AND POSITION OF LOW PRESSURE TRACKING THROUGH/NEAR  
THE SOUTHERN OHIO VALLEY. A RIDGE OF HIGH PRESSURE QUICKLY FOLLOWS,  
ALLOWING FOR A PERIOD OF LIGHT WINDS TO END THE WORK WEEK.  
 
HYDROLOGY...  
 
AREAS OF FREEZING DRIZZLE/RAIN TRANSITION TO ALL LIQUID RAIN TONIGHT  
WITH PERIODS OF MODERATE RAINFALL RATES POSSIBLE ALONG/SOUTH OF I-  
94. SOME OF THESE AREAS COULD SEE UP TO A HALF INCH OF RAINFALL BY  
SUNDAY EVENING. NO FLOODING IS EXPECTED, BUT PONDING ON ROADWAYS AND  
IN LOW-LYING AREAS IS POSSIBLE. AN ADDITIONAL QUARTER TO A THIRD OF  
AN INCH OF RAIN MAY DEVELOP MONDAY WITH THE ARRIVAL OF A COLD FRONT.  
 

 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 7 AM EST SUNDAY  
FOR MIZ047-048-053.  
 
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 4 AM EST SUNDAY  
FOR MIZ054-060-061-068-075-082.  
 
LAKE HURON...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM EST SUNDAY FOR LHZ421.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM EST SUNDAY FOR LHZ441-442.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 4 PM EST SUNDAY FOR LHZ443.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  

 
 

 
 
AVIATION.....DG  
DISCUSSION...KGK  
MARINE.......SF  
HYDROLOGY....KGK  
 
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