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FXUS63 KDTX 181126  
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
626 AM EST WED DEC 18 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
 
- LIGHT WET SNOW HAS STARTED TO IMPACT THE SAGINAW VALLEY AND THUMB  
THIS MORNING, WITH POTENTIAL FOR A RAIN SNOW MIX FURTHER SOUTH.  
 
- TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 30S THIS MORNING LIMIT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS  
TO A SLUSHY COATING ON OBJECTS AND UNPAVED SURFACES UP TO A HALF  
INCH.  
 
- ANOTHER LARGER AND STRONGER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM BRINGS POTENTIAL  
FOR MORE WIDESPREAD ACCUMULATING SNOW STARTING LATE THURSDAY AND  
CONTINUING THROUGH FRIDAY.  
 
- MUCH COLDER CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FOR THE WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
MODEST INCREASE IN MOISTURE DEPTH WILL MAINTAIN A SHORT WINDOW FOR  
SOME POCKETS OF LIGHT SNOW, POSSIBLY MIXED WITH RAIN, TO DEVELOP  
THROUGH THE MID-LATE MORNING HOURS. UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS  
GENERALLY LEND TOWARD MAINTAIN MVFR CONDITIONS AS THIS PROCESS  
UNFOLDS. OTHERWISE, EXTENSIVE LOW STRATUS REMAINS ENTRENCHED THROUGH  
THE PERIOD WITHIN MODEST WEST-NORTHWEST FLOW. PROBABILITY FOR SOME  
IMPROVEMENT IN CLOUD BASE WILL INCREASE LATE TODAY OR INTO THE  
EVENING, ALLOWING RECOVERY INTO VFR DURING THIS TIME.  
 
FOR DTW...POTENTIAL FOR A MIX OF LIGHT/MELTING SNOW AND RAIN REMAINS  
POSSIBLE THIS MORNING.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* HIGH FOR CEILING AT OR BELOW 5000 FEET THIS EVENING. HIGH  
WEDNESDAY.  
 
* HIGH FOR PRECIPITATION TYPE A MIX OF RAIN AND MELTING SNOW.  
 

 
   
PREV DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 423 AM EST WED DEC 18 2024  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
LIGHT SNOW HAS STARTED TO FILL IN ACROSS THE SAGINAW VALLEY AND  
THUMB REGIONS THIS MORNING AS A RESULT OF AN ELEVATED RESPONSE TO H7  
FRONTOGENESIS. HAVE SEEN A GENERAL WEAKENING TREND TO THIS BAND  
UPSTREAM, AND A LOT OF WHAT IS SHOWING UP ON KGRR/KDTX RADAR RIGHT  
NOW IS VIRGA. NONETHELESS, AS THIS BAND SNOWS INTO DRIER AIR BELOW  
SHOULD SEE A PERIOD OF LIGHT SNOW THIS MORNING. WHILE CURRENT  
TEMPERATURE READINGS ARE IN THE MID 30S, WET BULBING MAY ALLOW MINOR  
ACCUMULATIONS UP TO A HALF INCH EARLY ON BEFORE TEMPERATURES REBOUND  
ABOVE FREEZING THIS AFTERNOON. WILL SEE SNOW TAPER OFF THIS  
AFTERNOON AS THE PARENT TROUGH DROPS SOUTHEAST. DAYTIME HIGHS SETTLE  
IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S WITH CLOUDS STICKING AROUND EVEN AS SNOW  
COMES TO AN END.  
 
A MORE ORGANIZED OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW ARRIVES THURSDAY  
NIGHT-FRIDAY AS A WEAKENING CLIPPER SYSTEM DIVES INTO THE GREAT  
LAKES. TWO PHASES OF THIS SYSTEM WILL EXIST, THE FIRST PHASE BEING A  
LEAD ARM OF ISENTROPIC ASCENT/WARM ADVECTION THAT WILL HAVE GREATEST  
MOISTURE DEPTHS NORTH OF I-96. BROAD AND STEADY ASCENT RESULTS IN  
LIGHT ACCUMULATING SNOW EXPANDING WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN  
HALF OF THE CWA LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON. SOUTHERLY FLOW AHEAD OF THE  
CLIPPER WILL MAINTAIN A FEED OF DRY LOW LEVEL AIR INTO THE METRO  
DETROIT AREA, WHICH WILL LIMIT ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL ACROSS THE  
SOUTH FOR MOST OF THURSDAY EVENING. THE SECOND PHASE OF THIS SYSTEM  
RESULTS IN A BROADER AREA OF SNOW EXPANDING ACROSS ALL OF SE  
MICHIGAN AFTER 06Z (1AM FRIDAY) IN RESPONSE TO THE APPROACHING  
SURFACE LOW AND VORT MAX. THE BULK OF 00Z AND 06Z GUIDANCE BRINGS  
THE SURFACE LOW ACROSS SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN EARLY FRIDAY MORNING,  
WITH CORRESPONDING H8 AND H7 CIRCULATIONS TRACKING RIGHT ACROSS SE  
MICHIGAN. COMBINATION OF MOISTURE FLUX OFF OF LAKE MICHIGAN AND  
FOCUSED ASCENT SATURATE THE COLUMN ENOUGH TO COMPENSATE FOR  
DWINDLING PURE SYNOPTIC MOISTURE. THIS KICKS OFF A MORE MEANINGFUL  
PERIOD OF ACCUMULATING SNOW THAT WILL PEAK AROUND THE MORNING  
COMMUTE, WITH APPROXIMATELY 1-3" OF NEW SNOW ACCUMULATION POSSIBLE  
BY 18Z FRIDAY. THERE ARE SOME OUTLIER SOLUTIONS (18.03Z RAP AND  
18.00Z HRRR) THAT KEEP THE SURFACE LOW MUCH FURTHER NORTH (OVER THE  
UPPER PENINSULA OF MICHIGAN), WHICH COULD BE A FAILURE POINT OF THIS  
FORECAST. THIS TREND WILL NEED TO MONITORED IN SUBSEQUENT MODEL  
CYCLES.  
 
AS THE SURFACE LOW SLIDES SOUTHEAST OF THE STATE LINE, COLD  
NORTHERLY FLOW WILL ACTIVATE THE LAKE AGGREGATE AND PRODUCE A LAKE  
EFFECT RESPONSE OVER LAKE HURON. GIVEN THE OVERALL PROGRESSIVE  
MOTION OF THE SYSTEM AND SUBTLE BACKING TREND TO THE LOW LEVEL WIND  
FIELD, ANY BANDING THAT DOES FORM WOULD DRIFT OFFSHORE FRIDAY  
EVENING. NONETHELESS, THIS COULD LEAD TO LOCALLY ENHANCED SNOWFALL  
TOTALS (4+ INCHES) ALONG THE LAKE HURON SHORELINE.  
 
A COLDER PERIOD OF TEMPERATURES ARRIVES FOR THE WEEKEND AS FRIDAY'S  
CLIPPER SYSTEM DIVES TOWARD THE MID-ATLANTIC COAST. DAYTIME HIGHS  
WILL ONLY BE IN THE LOW TO MID 20S WHILE OVERNIGHT LOWS EXHIBIT  
LARGER VARIANCE IN THE LONG RANGE ENSEMBLE DATA. THE COLDEST  
FORECAST LOWS THIS WEEKEND LIE WITHIN THE GEPS DATASET, WHERE THERE  
IS HEALTHY SNOWPACK AND MINIMAL CLOUD COVER TO SUPPORT IDEAL  
RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS AND LOWS IN THE SINGLE DIGITS. EVEN  
THE MORE "MILD" ENS/GEFS SOLUTIONS HOWEVER STILL HAVE MEAN LOW  
TEMPERATURES IN THE TEENS, SO EXPECT COLD MORNINGS SATURDAY THROUGH  
MONDAY. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS MAY LINGER SATURDAY MORNING, BUT  
OTHERWISE STRONG SUBSIDENCE ALOFT AND A SURGE OF DRY LOW LEVEL AIR  
WILL LEAVE ONLY A SHALLOW LAYER OF MOISTURE TO WORK WITH OUTSIDE OF  
THE LAKESHORES.  
 
MARINE...  
 
A COLD FRONT EASES ACROSS THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES TODAY, BRINGING A  
LIKELY CHANCE OF LIGHT SNOW AND RAIN. LIGHT WESTERLY WINDS THROUGH  
MOST OF THE DAY WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE AND VEER TO THE NORTHWEST  
THIS EVENING AS THE FRONT DEPARTS. WIND SPEEDS WILL REACH THE 15 TO  
25 KNOT RANGE, SENDING AN INCREASING WAVE FIELD ACROSS CENTRAL AND  
SOUTHERN LAKE HURON. A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY HAS BEEN ISSUED FOR THE  
NEARSHORE WATERS AROUND THE THUMB TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING FOR  
THESE HIGHER WAVES. WINDS AND WAVES WILL DECREASE ON THURSDAY AS  
HIGH PRESSURE BUILDS INTO THE REGION. FLOW FLIPS TO EASTERLY LATE  
THURSDAY INTO EARLY FRIDAY AS A CLIPPER SYSTEM APPROACHES THE REGION  
FROM THE MIDWEST, THEN BACKS TO NORTHERLY FRIDAY AFTERNOON AS THE  
SYSTEM PASSES THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY. THIS SYSTEM BRINGS LIKELY  
WIDESPREAD SNOW AND WILL ALLOW A COLDER AIR MASS TO WORK INTO THE  
REGION THROUGH THE WEEKEND. AT THIS TIME WINDS LOOK TO REMAIN BELOW  
HEADLINE CRITERIA BUT ADDITIONAL SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES WILL BE  
LIKELY AROUND THE THUMB LATE FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY AS THE NORTHERLY  
WIND SENDS BUILDING WAVES SOUTHWARD.  
 

 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 7 PM THIS EVENING TO 7 AM EST THURSDAY  
FOR LHZ421-441-442.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  

 
 

 
 
AVIATION.....MR  
DISCUSSION...MV  
MARINE.......TF  
 
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