976  
FXUS63 KDTX 191004  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
504 AM EST THU DEC 19 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
 
- FLURRIES PERSIST THROUGH THE EARLY HALF OF THE DAY UNDER CLOUDY  
SKIES.  
 
- LOW PRESSURE BRINGS LIGHT ACCUMULATING SNOW TO THE SAGINAW VALLEY  
AND THUMB EARLY THIS EVENING, EXPANDING SOUTH ACROSS ALL OF  
SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN TONIGHT INTO FRIDAY.  
 
- 1 TO 3 INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATION IS EXPECTED TONIGHT THROUGH  
FRIDAY. SNOW COVERED ROADS ARE LIKELY TO IMPACT THE FRIDAY MORNING  
COMMUTE.  
 
- LOCALLY HIGHER TOTALS IN EXCESS OF 4 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE DUE TO  
LAKE EFFECT BANDS IN THE THUMB, ESPECIALLY FRIDAY INTO FRIDAY NIGHT.  
 
- MUCH COLDER AIR MOVES IN FOR THE WEEKEND LIMITING DAYTIME  
TEMPERATURES TO THE 20S WITH SINGLE DIGIT READINGS POSSIBLE AT  
NIGHT.  
 

 
   
AVIATION
 
 
WIDESPREAD STRATUS FEATURING A CLOUD BASE AT 2500 TO 3500 FT WILL  
MARK CONDITIONS INTO THE MID AFTERNOON HOURS. WINDS DURING THIS TIME  
EMERGING FROM THE SOUTHEAST. INITIAL BAND OF LIGHT SNOW ARRIVING IN  
ADVANCE OF AN APPROACHING CLIPPER ARRIVES FOR THE LATE AFTERNOON AND  
EVENING PERIOD. GREATER LIKELIHOOD FOR THIS TO IMPACT FNT/MBS WITH  
SOME REDUCTION IN CLOUD BASE AND VISIBILITY A POSSIBILITY. A MORE  
WIDESPREAD SNOWFALL ACCOMPANIES THE CLIPPER OVERNIGHT AND EARLY  
FRIDAY, LEADING TO EXPANSIVE IFR CIGS/VSBY WITH SOME INTERVALS OF  
LIFR A POSSIBILITY WITHING BRIEF HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES. LIGHT SNOW  
WILL TRANSITION TO A LOWER COVERAGE OS SNOW SHOWERS BY FRIDAY  
AFTERNOON AS WINDS VEER TO NORTHEAST BEHIND THE SYSTEM.  
 
FOR DTW...INITIAL PERIOD OF SNOW MOST LIKELY HOLDS JUST NORTH OF THE  
TERMINAL EARLY THIS EVENING. ONSET OF ACCUMULATING SNOW WITH  
ACCOMPANYING REDUCTION OF VISIBILITY EXPECTED WITHIN THE 06Z-08Z  
WINDOW. SNOW PERSIST THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS FRIDAY, WITH AN  
ACCUMULATION OF 1 TO 2 INCHES MOST PROBABLE.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* HIGH FOR CEILING AT OR BELOW 5000 FEET THROUGH FRIDAY.  
 
* HIGH FOR PRECIPITATION TYPE OF SNOW TONIGHT AND FRIDAY.  
 

 
   
PREV DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 424 AM EST THU DEC 19 2024  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
SPRAWLING HIGH PRESSURE DRIFTS OVERHEAD THIS MORNING, ALTHOUGH FOR  
NOW NORTHERLY FLOW ON ITS EASTERN FLANK CONTINUES TO ACTIVATE LAKE  
MICHIGAN SNOW SHOWERS THAT ARE JUST MAKING IT INTO THE SAGINAW  
VALLEY AND THUMB REGIONS. VERY WEAK RADAR RETURNS (< 15 DBZ) ARE AN  
INDICATION OF FLURRIES (AS OBSERVED AT THE WHITE LAKE OFFICE) AND/OR  
LIGHT FREEZING DRIZZLE. FORECAST SOUNDINGS DO MAINTAIN A SATURATED  
BOUNDARY LAYER THROUGH MOST OF TODAY (BEFORE THE ARRIVAL OF SYNOPTIC  
PRECIPITATION) WITH TEMPERATURES AT THE TOP OF THE BL AROUND -10 C  
(QUESTIONABLE FOR ICE NUCLEATION). THAT SAID, UPPER LEVELS WILL  
SATURATE THROUGHOUT THE DAY WITHIN A MORE SUITABLE THERMAL RANGE FOR  
ICE NUCLEATION. THE ADDED ICE CRYSTAL SEEDING FROM ALOFT FAVORS  
PERIODS OF FLURRIES TODAY RATHER THAN DRIZZLE.  
 
ALL EYES ARE ON THE UPSTREAM CLIPPER SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN TRACKING  
THROUGH THE DAKOTAS THIS MORNING AND WILL EVENTUALLY REACH SE  
MICHIGAN THIS EVENING. EARLY INDICATIONS OF THIS SYSTEM WILL BE A  
THICKENING CLOUD CANOPY, ALTHOUGH THE 00Z DTX SOUNDING FROM LAST  
NIGHT SHOWS A SUBSTANTIAL DRY SUBSIDENCE INVERSION. THIS WILL BE A  
MAJOR INHIBITOR TO SNOW POTENTIAL EARLY ON FOR THIS SYSTEM. UPSTREAM  
SATELLITE/RADAR IMAGERY SHOWS AN EXPANSIVE REGION OF WARM ADVECTION  
AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM, WITH A SUBTLE RIPPLE IN THE H7-H6 MB HEIGHT  
FIELD AND LEFT EXIT REGION DYNAMICS PIVOTING TOWARD SE MICHIGAN  
TONIGHT AS THE PARENT TROUGH AMPLIFIES AND NEGATIVELY TILTS. THE  
LEADING "ARM" OF ISENTROPIC ASCENT WILL SURGE INTO THE NORTHERN  
PORTIONS OF THE CWA (NORTH OF I-69), BUT WILL STRUGGLE TO MAKE MUCH  
OF AN IMPACT FURTHER SOUTH DUE TO A REINFORCED DRY SLOT BELOW 10.0  
KFT. SO FOR THE EARLY EVENING, THE SAGINAW VALLEY AND THUMB WILL SEE  
ACCUMULATING SNOWFALL WHILE THE REMAINING SOUTHERN ZONES WILL SEE  
LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS AT BEST.  
 
PRIME TIME FOR MORE WIDESPREAD LIGHT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE  
BETWEEN 00Z-12Z (7PM-7AM) FRIDAY AS THE AMPLIFYING PARENT WAVE  
DRIVES VORTICITY ADVECTION INTO THE AREA AND THE SURFACE LOW SLIDES  
JUST SOUTH OF THE STATE LINE. A FAIRLY LONG DURATION OF MODEST,  
BROAD ASCENT WILL LEAD TO SNOWFALL RATES OF AROUND 0.1-0.2" PER  
HOUR, EQUATING TO SNOWFALL TOTALS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES BY FRIDAY  
AFTERNOON WHICH IS QUITE TYPICAL FOR CLIPPER SYSTEMS.  
DURATION/MAGNITUDE FALLS JUST SHORT OF WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY  
CRITERIA, ALTHOUGH ONE MAY BE ISSUED IN SUBSEQUENT FORECAST UPDATES  
IF PEAK SNOWFALL RATES CENTER AROUND THE MORNING COMMUTE FRIDAY. ONE  
OF THE MAIN FACTORS LIMITING RATES/ACCUMULATION IS A LACK OF  
MEANINGFUL MOISTURE ADVECTION AS EVIDENT IN DRY POCKETS ON FORECAST  
SOUNDINGS. WILL SAY THAT THE MOISTURE CONTENT ALOFT WITHIN THE ICE  
NUCLEATION ZONE IS MUCH MORE ROBUST THAN THE LOWER LEVELS, SO  
SEEDING SHOULD HELP KEEP PRECIPITATION TYPE AS SNOW RATHER THAN  
FREEZING DRIZZLE.  
 
ONE OF THE MORE UNCERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS SYSTEM CONTINUES TO BE THE  
LAKE EFFECT RESPONSE ALONG THE LAKE HURON SHORELINE FRIDAY AFTERNOON-  
EVENING. ALL OF THE THERMODYNAMIC FACTORS WILL BE IN PLACE FOR  
HIGHER SNOWFALL RATES AND EFFICIENT MICROPHYSICS, INCLUDING A  
SATURATED DGZ AND UNSTABLE BOUNDARY LAYER. THE QUESTION HOWEVER IS  
WHETHER THE BAND WILL CLIP INLAND LOCATIONS AND IF SO, FOR WHAT  
DURATION. BOTH HREF PROBABILITIES AND LOCAL GUIDANCE INDICATE A 30-  
40% CHANCE FOR SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS AROUND THE THUMB TO EXCEED 4  
INCHES (ADVISORY THRESHOLDS) WITH THE TIPPING POINT BEING IF THE  
LAKE EFFECT BAND IS ONSHORE.  
 
ANY LAKE EFFECT ACROSS THE THUMB SHOULD COME TO AN END SATURDAY  
MORNING AS A COLDER AND DRIER ARCTIC AIRMASS BUILDS IN FROM CANADA.  
DAYTIME HIGHS IN THE 20S AND OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE SINGLE DIGITS TO  
LOW TEENS ARE EXPECTED, BUT WITH MINIMAL WIND WIND CHILLS STAY  
WITHIN A FEW DEGREES OF THE TEMPERATURE. THE DRIER AIR WILL ACTUALLY  
AFFORD PERIODS OF SUN THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND. LOOKING FORWARD TO THE  
HOLIDAY WEEK, THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF ENSEMBLE SPREAD WHEN IT COMES  
TO HOW QUICKLY THE ARCTIC AIR RETREATS. THE ENS IS COLDER, THE GEFS  
IS WARMER, AND THE GEPS HAS A LOT OF VARIANCE IN ITS SOLUTION SPACE.  
WHILE THERE IS GOOD AGREEMENT IN THE ENSEMBLE ENVELOPE FOR  
MEASURABLE PRECIPITATION TO OCCUR CHRISTMAS EVE, THE SPREAD IN  
TEMPERATURES INTERSECTS THE FREEZING MARK SO THERE ARE BOTH RAIN AND  
SNOW SOLUTIONS FOR EARLY NEXT WEEK.  
 
MARINE...  
 
WINDS QUICKLY DECREASE THIS MORNING AS HIGH PRESSURE BRIEFLY SLIDES  
ACROSS THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES. MODEST EASTERLY FLOW (15-20KT) WILL  
DEVELOP BY EVENING IN ADVANCE OF A CLIPPER SYSTEM DROPPING THROUGH  
THE UPPER MIDWEST. THIS SYSTEM ARRIVES OVER OUR REGION LATE TODAY  
THROUGH THE FIRST HALF FRIDAY BRINGING WIDESPREAD SNOW SHOWERS.  
WINDS VEER TO NORTHERLY LATTER HALF OF FRIDAY ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE  
LOW THOUGH WINDS ARE STILL ONLY EXPECTED TO REACH 20-25KTS,  
STRONGEST IN THE BAY AND NEAR THE THUMB. THAT SAID, ONSHORE FLOW  
WILL REQUIRE ANOTHER SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FOR THE THUMB/BAY  
NEARSHORE WATERS. A SECOND HIGH THEN BUILDS OVER THE REGION THIS  
WEEKEND.  
 

 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR LHZ421-441-442.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  

 
 

 
 
AVIATION.....MR  
DISCUSSION...MV  
MARINE.......KDK  
 
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