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FXUS63 KDTX 152058  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
358 PM EST WED JAN 15 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
 
- LIGHT SNOW WORKS ACROSS THE AREA BETWEEN 1AM AND 1PM THURSDAY.  
ACCUMULATIONS BETWEEN A HALF INCH TO 2 INCHES POSSIBLE. HIGHEST  
AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED IN THE THUMB.  
 
- INCREASING CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION EARLY SATURDAY, WITH AT LEAST  
MINOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE FOR PORTIONS OF SE MICHIGAN.  
THERE IS STILL UNCERTAINTY IF SOME AREAS WILL SEE A RAIN-SNOW MIX  
WITH THIS SYSTEM.  
 
- ARCTIC AIR IS EXPECTED ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN MONDAY THROUGH  
WEDNESDAY.  
 
- OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL DROP BELOW ZERO DEGREES WITH WIND CHILLS TO -  
15 F OR LOWER EACH MORNING. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL STRUGGLE TO  
CLIMB ABOVE ZERO DEGREES.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
THINNING STRATOCUMULUS AND FLURRY ACTIVITY WILL DWINDLE THROUGH THE  
REMAINDER OF THE AFTERNOON IN FAVOR OF THE DRIER AIRMASS THAT  
BRIEFLY TAKES RESIDENCE THIS EVENING. FOR AREAS THAT RECEIVED A  
BOOST FROM SOLAR INSOLATION, HIGH TEMPERATURES WERE ABLE TO BREAK  
INTO THE MID 20S TODAY. EVEN THESE WARMER READINGS STILL FALL SHORT  
OF NORMAL HIGHS BY ABOUT 5 TO 7 DEGREES. CLEAR SKIES CARRY INTO THE  
LATE EVENING, WITH THE PRESENT SNOWPACK AND CLOUD-FREE TROPOSPHERE  
AFFORDING PEAK RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS. OVERNIGHT LOW  
TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR BEFORE MIDNIGHT (WELL BEFORE THE  
DIURNAL MINIMUM) AS CLOUD COVER FILLS IN SHORTLY THEREAFTER,  
INSOLATING SURFACE TEMPERATURES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT. SOME  
SPOTS MAY DIP INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS WHILE MOST SEEN LOW TEMPS IN  
THE LOW TEENS BEFORE REBOUNDING INTO THE MID TEENS BY DAYBREAK.  
 
ANOTHER GLANCING OPPORTUNITY FOR WIDESPREAD LIGHT SNOW OCCURS LATE  
TONIGHT-THURSDAY AS A CLIPPER SYSTEM DIVES INTO THE GREAT LAKES  
REGION. THIS SYSTEM WILL ADVECT MOISTURE INTO A PRE-EXISTING LOW  
LEVEL ISENTROPIC SLOPE, AND WHILE RADAR RETURNS MAY INITIALLY LOOK  
LEAN OR JUST BE VIRGA, SHOULD SEE FULL COLUMN SATURATION BY ABOUT  
07Z TONIGHT. BY THIS TIME, THE STRONGEST OF THE WARM ADVECTIVE  
FORCING WILL BE EAST OF I-75, BUT THE INBOUND HEIGHT FALL CENTER  
WILL SUPPORT A BROADER/LIGHTER SNOW TO THE WEST OF THE INTERSTATE AS  
WELL. THESE SYSTEMS ARE TYPICALLY ONLY ABLE TO SQUEEZE OUT 1-2" OF  
SNOW SINCE THEY LACK MOISTURE DEPTH AND DURATION, BUT ONE  
INTERESTING FEATURE OF THIS SYSTEM IS THE VERY STRONG ELEVATED  
CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY ABOVE THE WARM FRONT (700-500MB LAPSE RATES  
OF 7.5-8.0 C/KM). WHILE THE COLD POOL IS ONLY OVERHEAD FOR A FEW  
HOURS OVER ANY ONE LOCATION, IF THE UNSTABLE LAYER IS SATURATED  
SNOWFALL RATES MAY OVERACHIEVE. THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO AN  
ALREADY VERY EFFICIENT THERMODYNAMIC PROFILE WHERE SNOW-LIQUID RATES  
ARE OVER 15:1 AND THE ISOTHERMAL LAYER IS JUST 1-2 DEGREES WARMER  
THAN THE PEAK DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE. AN OVERACHIEVING SCENARIO HAS  
NOT SHOWN UP IN THE ENVELOPE OF DETERMINISTIC/ENSEMBLE DATA, SO  
SNOWFALL GRIDS ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MOST LIKELY OUTCOME: 1"  
WEST OF I-75 AND 2" TO THE WEST, LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS IN THE  
THUMB. THIS SETUP SHOULD BE WATCHED CLOSELY HOWEVER FOR  
OVERACHIEVEMENT POTENTIAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE SNOWFALL TIMING IS  
FAVORED AROUND THE MORNING COMMUTE.  
 
SNOWFALL RATES BEGIN TO TAPER OFF AFTER 15Z THURSDAY (10AM EST) WITH  
THE LOSS OF BROAD ISENTROPIC FORCING, ALTHOUGH A MORE LOCALIZED  
POCKET OF FORCING IS EXPECTED TO HOLD ON IN THE THUMB WHICH MAY  
RESULT IN AN ADDITIONAL DUSTING OF SNOW TO BRING TOTALS ABOVE THE 2"  
MARK. ELSEWHERE, SHALLOW, BUT WELL-MIXED BOUNDARY LAYER CONDITIONS  
WILL MAINTAIN LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WITH ADDITIONAL MINOR  
ACCUMULATIONS OF DRY/FLUFFY SNOW POSSIBLE. THE PARENT LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM DRAWS A COLD FRONT ACROSS THE REGION DURING THE AFTERNOON,  
WITH VEERED WINDS OUT OF THE NORTHWEST FURTHER LOWERING SNOW SHOWER  
CHANCES FOR THE AFTERNOON-EVENING.  
 
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WILL BE THE WARMEST DAYS OF THE FORECAST PERIOD  
WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 30S, IN ADVANCE OF AN ORGANIZED LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM THAT WILL IMPACT SE MICHIGAN FRIDAY NIGHT-SATURDAY. A COUPLED  
UPPER LEVEL JET STRUCTURE WILL INDUCE CYCLOGENESIS OVER THE  
MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY FRIDAY AFTERNOON, WITH THE PRECIPITATION  
SHIELD ADVANCING TOWARD SE MICHIGAN FRI NIGHT. NEARLY ALL ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS IN THE LREF GUIDANCE PRODUCE SOME DEGREE OF ACCUMULATING  
SNOW FOR PORTIONS OF THE CWA BY SATURDAY MORNING, BUT THERE ARE  
STILL DISAGREEMENTS ON SYNOPTIC FEATURE PLACEMENT, RAIN-SNOW LINE  
PLACEMENT, ETC. SO NAILING DOWN EXACT SNOWFALL RANGES IS A BIT  
PREMATURE. FOR AT LEAST SOME REFERENCE ON THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS  
SYSTEM, ENSEMBLE QPF AMOUNTS RANGE BETWEEN ABOUT 0.1-0.3".  
 
A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL CLEAR OUT PRECIPITATION SATURDAY, BUT USHER  
IN THE COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON. BY EARLY NEXT WEEK H8 TEMPERATURES  
WILL DROP BELOW -30 C FOR MUCH OF THE UPPER MIDWEST. NEARLY ALL  
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS MONDAY-WEDNESDAY SUPPORT OVERNIGHT LOWS BELOW ZERO  
DEGREES, WITH WIND CHILLS APPROACHING ADVISORY CRITERIA (-15 F OR  
LOWER). NOT MUCH RELIEF IS EXPECTED DURING THE DAY EITHER, WITH HIGH  
TEMPERATURES BARELY CLIMBING ABOVE ZERO.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
WINDS SHIFT TO SOUTHWESTERLY AND STRENGTHEN THIS EVENING AND  
OVERNIGHT IN RESPONSE TO A CLIPPER SYSTEM TRACKING SOUTHEAST INTO  
THE GREAT LAKES. PEAK WINDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE EARLY MORNING  
HOURS THURSDAY WITH WIND SPEEDS OF 20 TO 25 KNOTS AND GUSTS UP TO 30  
KNOTS OVER SAGINAW BAY INTO CENTRAL LAKE HURON WHERE THE SOUTHWEST  
WIND HAS LONGER FETCH. LIGHT SNOW WILL ACCOMPANY THIS SYSTEM THROUGH  
MUCH OF THE DAY THURSDAY. WINDS VEER TO NORTHWEST THURSDAY NIGHT,  
PEAKING AROUND 20 TO 25 KNOTS, AS THE SYSTEM DEPARTS EAST. A  
STRONGER SYSTEM WILL THEN TRACK JUST NORTH OF THE GREAT LAKES ON  
FRIDAY, CAUSING A STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY LOW-LEVEL JET TO PASS OVER  
THE REGION. MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW A HIGH PROBABILITY FOR GALES,  
AND A GALE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE MAJORITY OF LAKE HURON  
FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON TO SATURDAY MORNING. THERE WILL BE POTENTIAL  
FOR GUSTS TO 40 KNOTS. MILDER AIR WILL BRIEFLY ACCOMPANY THIS SYSTEM  
BEFORE FRIGID ARCTIC AIR SETTLES OVER THE REGION TO START NEXT WEEK.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 550 AM EST WED JAN 15 2025  
 
AVIATION...  
 
UPSTREAM OBSERVATIONS SHOW A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE MVFR BASED STRATUS  
DECK APPROACHING THE SE MI TERMINALS FROM THE WEST. ONGOING  
SUBSIDENCE AND WARM AIR ADVECTION IS LOWERING THE BASE OF THE  
INVERSION, WHICH WILL MAKE MVFR BASED STRATUS INCREASINGLY MORE  
PROBABLE WITHIN THE FIRST COUPLE HOURS OF TAF ISSUANCE. A GRADUAL  
BACKING OF THE WIND FIELDS WITHIN THE LOW LEVELS TOWARD THE SSW WEST  
DURING THE AFTERNOON WILL DRIVE THE LAKE MICHIGAN MOISTURE PLUME  
NORTHWARD, LEADING TO A COMPLETE CLEARING OF LOW CLOUDS. A MID LEVEL  
SHORT WAVE WILL THEN ADVANCE INTO LOWER MI OVERNIGHT, RESULTING IN  
NUMEROUS SNOW SHOWERS AND A RETURN OF LOW CLOUDS.  
 
FOR DTW...METRO WILL RESIDE ALONG THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE LAKE  
STRATUS THIS MORNING THROUGH MID AFTERNOON. THE BULK OF THE MODEL  
GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THE MVFR CLOUDS WILL BE EXTENSIVE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT  
PREVAILING MVFR CONDITIONS INTO EARLY AFTERNOON. AS THE LOW LEVEL  
FLOW BECOMES BACKED, THERE WILL BE A MORE PERSISTENT EROSION OF THE  
EDGE OF THESE CLOUDS BY MID AFTERNOON, LIKELY LEADING TO THEIR  
EROSION.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* HIGH FOR CEILINGS AOB 5000 FEET THIS MORNING. MODERATE THIS  
AFTERNOON. LOW THIS EVENING.  
 
* HIGH FOR PTYPE OF SNOW OVERNIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...GALE WATCH FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT FOR  
LHZ362-363-421-441-462>464.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...MV  
MARINE.......TF  
AVIATION.....SC  
 
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