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FXUS63 KDTX 152310  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
610 PM EST WED JAN 15 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
 
- LIGHT SNOW WORKS ACROSS THE AREA BETWEEN 1AM AND 1PM THURSDAY.  
ACCUMULATIONS BETWEEN A HALF INCH TO 2 INCHES POSSIBLE. HIGHEST  
AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED IN THE THUMB.  
 
- INCREASING CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION EARLY SATURDAY, WITH AT LEAST  
MINOR SNOW ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE FOR PORTIONS OF SE MICHIGAN. THERE  
IS STILL UNCERTAINTY IF SOME AREAS WILL SEE A RAIN-SNOW MIX WITH  
THIS SYSTEM.  
 
- ARCTIC AIR IS EXPECTED ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN MONDAY THROUGH  
WEDNESDAY.  
 
- OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL DROP BELOW ZERO DEGREES WITH WIND CHILLS TO -  
15 F OR LOWER EACH MORNING. HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL STRUGGLE TO CLIMB  
ABOVE ZERO DEGREES.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
A BRIEF WINDOW OF DRIER LOW LEVEL CONDITIONS WILL EXIST EARLY  
TONIGHT IN PREVAILING SOUTHWEST WIND. THIS TRAJECTORY MAINTAINS THE  
POSSIBILITY FOR A LOWER COVERAGE OF STRATUS TO EMERGE AT FNT/MBS  
PRIOR TO 06Z, BUT OTHERWISE VFR CONDITIONS WITH SIMPLY AN INCREASE  
IN HIGHER BASED CLOUD OVER THE SE MICHIGAN AIRSPACE THIS PERIOD.  
MOISTURE WILL INCREASE OVERNIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING, RESULTING IN  
RENEWED EXPANSION OF LOWER STRATUS WITH AN ACCOMPANYING INCREASE IN  
SNOW SHOWER POTENTIAL. HIGHEST PROBABILITY FOR SNOW SHOWERS WITH  
ASSOCIATED IFR CONDITIONS WILL FOCUS BETWEEN 08Z AND 16Z, WITH  
ADDITIONAL POCKETS OF LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS OF LOWER COVERAGE POSSIBLE  
THROUGH THURSDAY AFTERNOON. WINDS VEERING WITH TIME FROM SOUTHWEST  
TO WEST THRU THE MORNING PERIOD, THEN BECOMING NORTHWESTERLY WITH  
MODEST GUSTINESS IN THE AFTERNOON.  
 
FOR DTW...INCREASING PROBABILITY FOR SNOW SHOWERS AFTER 08Z, WITH  
THE HIGHEST COVERAGE EXPECTED THROUGH 15Z THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* LOW FOR CEILINGS AOB 5000 FEET THIS EVENING. HIGH OVERNIGHT INTO  
THURSDAY.  
 
* HIGH FOR PTYPE OF SNOW OVERNIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 358 PM EST WED JAN 15 2025  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
THINNING STRATOCUMULUS AND FLURRY ACTIVITY WILL DWINDLE THROUGH THE  
REMAINDER OF THE AFTERNOON IN FAVOR OF THE DRIER AIRMASS THAT  
BRIEFLY TAKES RESIDENCE THIS EVENING. FOR AREAS THAT RECEIVED A  
BOOST FROM SOLAR INSOLATION, HIGH TEMPERATURES WERE ABLE TO BREAK  
INTO THE MID 20S TODAY. EVEN THESE WARMER READINGS STILL FALL SHORT  
OF NORMAL HIGHS BY ABOUT 5 TO 7 DEGREES. CLEAR SKIES CARRY INTO THE  
LATE EVENING, WITH THE PRESENT SNOWPACK AND CLOUD-FREE TROPOSPHERE  
AFFORDING PEAK RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS. OVERNIGHT LOW  
TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED TO OCCUR BEFORE MIDNIGHT (WELL BEFORE THE  
DIURNAL MINIMUM) AS CLOUD COVER FILLS IN SHORTLY THEREAFTER,  
INSOLATING SURFACE TEMPERATURES FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE NIGHT. SOME  
SPOTS MAY DIP INTO THE SINGLE DIGITS WHILE MOST SEEN LOW TEMPS IN  
THE LOW TEENS BEFORE REBOUNDING INTO THE MID TEENS BY DAYBREAK.  
 
ANOTHER GLANCING OPPORTUNITY FOR WIDESPREAD LIGHT SNOW OCCURS LATE  
TONIGHT-THURSDAY AS A CLIPPER SYSTEM DIVES INTO THE GREAT LAKES  
REGION. THIS SYSTEM WILL ADVECT MOISTURE INTO A PRE-EXISTING LOW  
LEVEL ISENTROPIC SLOPE, AND WHILE RADAR RETURNS MAY INITIALLY LOOK  
LEAN OR JUST BE VIRGA, SHOULD SEE FULL COLUMN SATURATION BY ABOUT  
07Z TONIGHT. BY THIS TIME, THE STRONGEST OF THE WARM ADVECTIVE  
FORCING WILL BE EAST OF I-75, BUT THE INBOUND HEIGHT FALL CENTER  
WILL SUPPORT A BROADER/LIGHTER SNOW TO THE WEST OF THE INTERSTATE AS  
WELL. THESE SYSTEMS ARE TYPICALLY ONLY ABLE TO SQUEEZE OUT 1-2" OF  
SNOW SINCE THEY LACK MOISTURE DEPTH AND DURATION, BUT ONE  
INTERESTING FEATURE OF THIS SYSTEM IS THE VERY STRONG ELEVATED  
CONVECTIVE INSTABILITY ABOVE THE WARM FRONT (700-500MB LAPSE RATES  
OF 7.5-8.0 C/KM). WHILE THE COLD POOL IS ONLY OVERHEAD FOR A FEW  
HOURS OVER ANY ONE LOCATION, IF THE UNSTABLE LAYER IS SATURATED  
SNOWFALL RATES MAY OVERACHIEVE. THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO AN  
ALREADY VERY EFFICIENT THERMODYNAMIC PROFILE WHERE SNOW-LIQUID RATES  
ARE OVER 15:1 AND THE ISOTHERMAL LAYER IS JUST 1-2 DEGREES WARMER  
THAN THE PEAK DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE. AN OVERACHIEVING SCENARIO HAS  
NOT SHOWN UP IN THE ENVELOPE OF DETERMINISTIC/ENSEMBLE DATA, SO  
SNOWFALL GRIDS ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MOST LIKELY OUTCOME: 1"  
WEST OF I-75 AND 2" TO THE WEST, LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS IN THE  
THUMB. THIS SETUP SHOULD BE WATCHED CLOSELY HOWEVER FOR  
OVERACHIEVEMENT POTENTIAL, ESPECIALLY SINCE SNOWFALL TIMING IS  
FAVORED AROUND THE MORNING COMMUTE.  
 
SNOWFALL RATES BEGIN TO TAPER OFF AFTER 15Z THURSDAY (10AM EST) WITH  
THE LOSS OF BROAD ISENTROPIC FORCING, ALTHOUGH A MORE LOCALIZED  
POCKET OF FORCING IS EXPECTED TO HOLD ON IN THE THUMB WHICH MAY  
RESULT IN AN ADDITIONAL DUSTING OF SNOW TO BRING TOTALS ABOVE THE 2"  
MARK. ELSEWHERE, SHALLOW, BUT WELL-MIXED BOUNDARY LAYER CONDITIONS  
WILL MAINTAIN LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS WITH ADDITIONAL MINOR  
ACCUMULATIONS OF DRY/FLUFFY SNOW POSSIBLE. THE PARENT LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM DRAWS A COLD FRONT ACROSS THE REGION DURING THE AFTERNOON,  
WITH VEERED WINDS OUT OF THE NORTHWEST FURTHER LOWERING SNOW SHOWER  
CHANCES FOR THE AFTERNOON-EVENING.  
 
FRIDAY AND SATURDAY WILL BE THE WARMEST DAYS OF THE FORECAST PERIOD  
WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 30S, IN ADVANCE OF AN ORGANIZED LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM THAT WILL IMPACT SE MICHIGAN FRIDAY NIGHT-SATURDAY. A COUPLED  
UPPER LEVEL JET STRUCTURE WILL INDUCE CYCLOGENESIS OVER THE  
MISSISSIPPI RIVER VALLEY FRIDAY AFTERNOON, WITH THE PRECIPITATION  
SHIELD ADVANCING TOWARD SE MICHIGAN FRI NIGHT. NEARLY ALL ENSEMBLE  
MEMBERS IN THE LREF GUIDANCE PRODUCE SOME DEGREE OF ACCUMULATING  
SNOW FOR PORTIONS OF THE CWA BY SATURDAY MORNING, BUT THERE ARE  
STILL DISAGREEMENTS ON SYNOPTIC FEATURE PLACEMENT, RAIN-SNOW LINE  
PLACEMENT, ETC. SO NAILING DOWN EXACT SNOWFALL RANGES IS A BIT  
PREMATURE. FOR AT LEAST SOME REFERENCE ON THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS  
SYSTEM, ENSEMBLE QPF AMOUNTS RANGE BETWEEN ABOUT 0.1-0.3".  
 
A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL CLEAR OUT PRECIPITATION SATURDAY, BUT USHER  
IN THE COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON. BY EARLY NEXT WEEK H8 TEMPERATURES  
WILL DROP BELOW -30 C FOR MUCH OF THE UPPER MIDWEST. NEARLY ALL  
ENSEMBLE MEMBERS MONDAY-WEDNESDAY SUPPORT OVERNIGHT LOWS BELOW ZERO  
DEGREES, WITH WIND CHILLS APPROACHING ADVISORY CRITERIA (-15 F OR  
LOWER). NOT MUCH RELIEF IS EXPECTED DURING THE DAY EITHER, WITH HIGH  
TEMPERATURES BARELY CLIMBING ABOVE ZERO.  
 
MARINE...  
 
WINDS SHIFT TO SOUTHWESTERLY AND STRENGTHEN THIS EVENING AND  
OVERNIGHT IN RESPONSE TO A CLIPPER SYSTEM TRACKING SOUTHEAST INTO  
THE GREAT LAKES. PEAK WINDS ARE EXPECTED DURING THE EARLY MORNING  
HOURS THURSDAY WITH WIND SPEEDS OF 20 TO 25 KNOTS AND GUSTS UP TO 30  
KNOTS OVER SAGINAW BAY INTO CENTRAL LAKE HURON WHERE THE SOUTHWEST  
WIND HAS LONGER FETCH. LIGHT SNOW WILL ACCOMPANY THIS SYSTEM THROUGH  
MUCH OF THE DAY THURSDAY. WINDS VEER TO NORTHWEST THURSDAY NIGHT,  
PEAKING AROUND 20 TO 25 KNOTS, AS THE SYSTEM DEPARTS EAST. A  
STRONGER SYSTEM WILL THEN TRACK JUST NORTH OF THE GREAT LAKES ON  
FRIDAY, CAUSING A STRONG SOUTHWESTERLY LOW-LEVEL JET TO PASS OVER  
THE REGION. MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW A HIGH PROBABILITY FOR GALES,  
AND A GALE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FOR THE MAJORITY OF LAKE HURON  
FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON TO SATURDAY MORNING. THERE WILL BE POTENTIAL  
FOR GUSTS TO 40 KNOTS. MILDER AIR WILL BRIEFLY ACCOMPANY THIS SYSTEM  
BEFORE FRIGID ARCTIC AIR SETTLES OVER THE REGION TO START NEXT WEEK.  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...GALE WATCH FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT FOR  
LHZ362-363-421-441-462>464.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
AVIATION.....MR  
DISCUSSION...MV  
MARINE.......TF  
 
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