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FXUS63 KDTX 160837  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
337 AM EST THU JAN 16 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
 
- LIGHT SNOW WORKS ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH THIS AFTERNOON.  
ACCUMULATIONS BETWEEN A HALF INCH TO 2 INCHES POSSIBLE. HIGHEST  
AMOUNTS ARE EXPECTED IN THE THUMB.  
 
- WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION LIKELY EARLY SATURDAY. THERE IS STILL  
UNCERTAINTY HOW MUCH RAIN MIXES IN WITH SNOW. 1 TO 3 INCHES  
CURRENTLY FORECAST, WITH HIGHEST TOTALS OVER THE THUMB AND EASTERN I-  
69/M-59 CORRIDORS.  
 
- ARCTIC AIR IS EXPECTED ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN SUNDAY THROUGH  
WEDNESDAY.  
 
- OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL DROP BELOW ZERO DEGREES WITH WIND CHILLS  
FALLING BELOW -15 F, OR LOWER, EACH MORNING. HIGH TEMPERATURES ONLY  
IN THE SINGLE DIGITS MONDAY AND TUESDAY.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
LIGHT SNOW HAS BEGUN TO OVERSPREAD THE AREA AT TIME OF DISCUSSION  
TIED TO A WEAK CLIPPER DROPPING THOUGH THE GREAT LAKES. PEAK RATES,  
UP TO AROUND 0.1"/HR, OCCUR BETWEEN NOW AND 8AM AS THE PRIMARY VORT  
MAX AND BASE OF THE MID-LEVEL TROUGH SWING OVER THE AREA. PRIOR  
FORECAST STILL LOOKING ON TRACK WITH NO SIGNIFICANT ADJUSTMENTS MADE  
TO THE SNOW TOTALS; THAT IS, AN INCH OR TWO MAINLY EAST OF I-75/US-  
23 WITH TOTALS TO THE WEST AROUND AN INCH. THIS WAVE PUSHES TO OUR  
EAST BY ~15Z FOLLOWED BY A TRAILING PARTIALLY SHEARED LOBE OF  
VORTICITY ON THE BACKEDGE OF THE TROUGH CROSSING THE AREA THIS  
AFTERNOON. DESPITE THE SHEARED NATURE OF THE WAVE AND DECREASING  
UPPER SUPPORT AS GEOPOTENTIAL HEIGHTS BEGIN TO RISE, STEEPENING LOW  
LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND TRAILING EDGE OF ENHANCED MID-LEVEL LAPSE  
RATES FROM THE EARLY WAVE DO YIELD A SECONDARY BURST OF SCATTERED  
LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS IN SEVERAL MODEL SOLUTIONS, PARTICULARLY THE NAM.  
GIVEN THE WEAKER FORCING AND MEDIOCRE MOISTURE, ANY ADDITIONAL  
ACCUMULATIONS LIKELY ONLY A TENTH OR TWO AT BEST.  
 
LOW AMPLITUDE RIDGING EXPANDS OVER THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES LATE  
TONIGHT SETTING UP DEEPER LAYER SW RETURN FLOW INTO LOWER MI.  
DEEPENING LOW PRESSURE TRAVERSING JUST NORTH OF LAKE SUPERIOR LEADS  
TO RAPID DEVELOPMENT OF A 850-900MB LLJ INTO THE REGION WITH FLOW  
EVENTUALLY REACHING 50-55KT DOWN TO AROUND 925MB. THIS STRONG JET  
SUPPORTS ROBUST WAA INTO THE AREA WITH 850MB TEMPS RISING TO +2C BY  
LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON (UP FROM -10C TONIGHT) AS HIGHS REACH BACK  
NEAR NORMAL IN THE LOWER 30S. BREEZY CONDITIONS CAN ALSO BE EXPECTED  
WITH GUSTS LATTER HALF OF FRIDAY BETWEEN 25-30MPH.  
 
ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT DRAWN SOUTH BY THE  
AFOREMENTIONED NORTHERN ONTARIO LOW FRIDAY NIGHT-SATURDAY MORNING.  
ENSEMBLE AND DETERMINISTIC GUIDANCE CONTINUE TO SHOW FAVORABLE  
PHASING TIMING/POSITIONING BETWEEN THE NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH AND A  
SOUTHERN SHORTWAVE LIFTING OUT OF THE SOUTHERN PLAINS. THAT ALLOWS  
SOUTHERN STREAM VORTICITY TO LIFT OVER SE MI SATURDAY MORNING AS THE  
SURFACE ARCTIC FRONT AND ITS ATTENDANT PV ANOMALY PUSH INTO WEST MI.  
HIGH CONFIDENCE IN WIDESPREAD PRECIP OVER THE REGION SATURDAY  
MORNING INCLUDING AT LEAST SOME ACCUMULATING SNOW, THOUGH EXACTLY  
HOW MUCH IS REMAINS THE MAIN POINT OF UNCERTAINTY. THIS COMES DOWN  
TO THE SPEED OF COLD ADVECTION INTO SE MI FROM THE NORTHERN TROUGH  
THAT IS BEGINNING TO SLIDE OVERHEAD AS SOUTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE  
ARRIVES. CURRENTLY THE FAVORED SCENARIO IS FOR AN INITIAL RAIN-SNOW  
MIX (BETWEEN ~06-12Z) FOR AREAS OUTSIDE THE THUMB/NORTHERN PORTION  
OF THE GLACIAL MORAINE (NORTH OF M-59) AS NEAR-SURFACE LAYER TEMPS  
HOVER 32-34F. FORECAST SOUNDINGS FOR THE EXCEPTION AREAS, DUE TO  
MORE SNOW DEPTH AND TERRAIN EFFECTS FOR THE MORAINE, ADVERTISE  
SURFACE TEMPS 31-32F AND COLD COLUMNS TO SUPPORT ALL SNOW (OR AT  
VERY LEAST MINIMAL RAIN MIX). CONTINUED COLD ADVECTION THEN SHOULD  
FACILITY A TRANSITION TO MOSTLY/ALL SNOW FOR THE REST OF THE AREA  
MID TO LATE MORNING. ENSEMBLE AND DETERMINISTIC MODEL FAMILIES IN  
FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT WITH BOTH THE OVERALL QPF BEING BETWEEN 0.1-  
0.3" AND THE BULK OF THAT FALLING DURING THE 06-12Z WINDOW BEFORE  
THE ARCTIC COLD FRONT THEN DRIVES ACROSS THE REGION LATE MORNING-  
EARLY AFTERNOON SHUNTING PRECIP TO OUR EAST. DUE TO THIS, THE  
HIGHEST ACCUMULATIONS ARE CURRENTLY FORECAST OVER THE THUMB AND  
EASTERN I-69/M-59 CORRIDORS (EAST OF I-75/US-23) WHERE 1-3" ARE  
POSSIBLE. THE REST OF THE REGION ARE FORECAST TO SEE 0.5-1.5". THESE  
TOTALS ARE HIGHLY SENSITIVE TO ANY CHANGES IN THE TEMPERATURE  
FORECAST HOWEVER, GIVEN THE NEAR FREEZING SETUP, SO EXPECT FURTHER  
ADJUSTMENTS AS WE GET CLOSER.  
 
TEMPERATURES RAPIDLY DROP FOLLOWING THE ARCTIC FRONT GOING FROM  
AROUND 32F SAT MORNING TO AROUND 20F BY SAT EVENING, AND EVENTUALLY  
OVERNIGHT LOWS UPPER SINGLE DIGITS/LOWER TEENS. GIVEN THE WETTER  
NATURE OF THE EARLY DAY SNOW, IT WILL QUICKLY TURN ICY. COLDEST AIR  
OF THE WINTER THUS FAR THEN SETTLES OVER THE CENTRAL CONUS SUNDAY  
THROUGH THE FIRST HALF OF NEXT WEEK AS LOCAL 850MB TEMPS FALL TO  
AROUND -25C. HIGHS ONLY IN THE TEENS SUNDAY AND WEDNESDAY WITH THE  
COLDEST DAYS BEING MONDAY AND TUESDAY WHERE SINGLE DIGIT HIGHS ARE  
LIKELY. WIND CHILLS (AND OVERNIGHT LOWS) THROUGHOUT THIS PERIOD ARE  
FAVORED TO REMAIN BELOW ZERO WITH -15 TO -20F APPARENT TEMPS  
POSSIBLE MON/TUES WHICH WOULD EASILY MEET COLD WEATHER ADVISORY  
CRITERIA.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
A WEAK CLIPPER SYSTEM WILL TRACK SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES  
TODAY, BRINGING WIDESPREAD LIGHT SNOWFALL. SOUTHWEST WINDS AHEAD OF  
THIS SYSTEM WILL BE GUSTY EARLY THIS MORNING, MAINLY IN THE 20 TO 25  
KNOT RANGE BUT OCCASIONALLY REACHING 30 KNOTS WHERE FETCH IS  
MAXIMIZED DOWN SAGINAW BAY INTO CENTRAL LAKE HURON. WINDS WEAKEN  
THROUGH MIDDAY AS THE SURFACE TROUGH EASES INTO THE AREA, THEN WIND  
DIRECTION SHIFTS TO THE NORTHWEST TONIGHT AND INCREASES TO THE 20 TO  
25 KNOT RANGE AGAIN. A BRIEF LULL IN WIND MAGNITUDE FOLLOWS BETWEEN  
SYSTEMS EARLY FRIDAY, THEN SOUTHERLY WINDS QUICKLY RAMP UP THROUGH  
THE AFTERNOON FRIDAY AS A STRONG LOW-LEVEL JET PASSES OVER THE  
REGION. THIS WILL BE TIED TO A STRONGER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACKING  
JUST NORTH OF THE GREAT LAKES. A GALE WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM  
FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH FRIDAY NIGHT AS MODEL DATA CONTINUES TO  
SHOW HIGH PROBABILITY FOR SOUTHERLY GALES. A BRIEF WINDOW FOR PEAK  
GUSTS AROUND 40 KNOTS EXISTS LATE FRIDAY EVENING. MILDER AIR AND A  
CHANCE OF RAIN AND SNOW WILL ACCOMPANY THIS SYSTEM BEFORE FRIGID  
ARCTIC AIR SETTLES OVER THE REGION TO START NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
PREV DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 1147 PM EST WED JAN 15 2025  
 
AVIATION...  
 
FAVORABLE CONDITIONS WILL EMERGE OVERNIGHT AND EARLY THURSDAY FOR AN  
INCREASE IN SNOW SHOWER COVERAGE. INITIAL ACTIVITY WILL DEVELOP  
WITHIN THE 07Z-10Z WINDOW, WITH SOME VARIABILITY LIKELY IN BOTH  
CLOUD BASE AND VISIBILITY AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE GRADUALLY INCREASES  
AND SNOW SHOWER INTENSITY REMAINS LIGHT. HIGHEST PROBABILITY FOR  
SNOW SHOWERS WITH ASSOCIATED IFR CONDITIONS AND ACCUMULATION  
POTENTIAL WILL EXIST DURING THE MID-LATE MORNING HOURS. POTENTIAL  
DOES EXIST FOR THIS ACTIVITY TO LINGER SLIGHTLY LONGER INTO THE  
AFTERNOON, DEPENDING ON THE PACE OF A PASSING MID LEVEL WAVE. WINDS  
VEERING WITH TIME FROM SOUTHWEST TO WEST THRU THE MORNING PERIOD,  
THEN BECOMING NORTHWESTERLY WITH MODEST GUSTINESS IN THE AFTERNOON.  
 
FOR DTW...INCREASING PROBABILITY FOR SNOW SHOWERS AFTER 08Z, WITH  
THE HIGHEST COVERAGE EXPECTED BETWEEN 10Z AND 16Z THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* HIGH FOR CEILINGS AOB 5000 FEET THROUGH THURSDAY.  
 
* HIGH FOR PTYPE OF SNOW OVERNIGHT AND THURSDAY MORNING.  
 

 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...GALE WATCH FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH LATE FRIDAY NIGHT FOR  
LHZ362-363-421-441-462>464.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...KDK  
MARINE.......TF  
AVIATION.....MR  
 
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