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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
652 PM EST FRI JAN 17 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
 
- WIDESPREAD RAIN/SNOW TO SNOW EXPECTED TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY  
MORNING. SNOW ACCUMULATION TOTALS OF A HALF-INCH UP TO 2 INCHES  
LIKELY, WITH HIGHER-END AMOUNTS POSSIBLE WITHIN THE IRISH HILLS.  
 
- THE COLDEST TEMPERATURES OF THE WINTER THUS FAR ARRIVE EARLY NEXT  
WEEK. DANGEROUS WIND CHILLS OF -15 TO -25 LIKELY FOR THE MORNING  
HOURS, WITH LITTLE RELIEF FOR THE AFTERNOON, CENTERED MONDAY THROUGH  
WEDNESDAY.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
DRY AND MILDER CONDITIONS THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS, AS A MODEST  
GUSTY SOUTHERLY WINDS PERSISTS. SUFFICIENT MAGNITUDE TO SOUTHERLY  
FLOW AT 2000 FT TO MAINTAIN A MENTION OF LOW LEVEL WIND SHEAR DURING  
THIS TIME. PLUME OF DEEPER MOISTURE WILL ARRIVE AFTER 06Z TONIGHT,  
RESULTING IN A STEADY INCREASE IN PRECIPITATION POTENTIAL THROUGH  
SATURDAY MORNING WITH AN ACCOMPANYING REDUCTION IN BOTH CEILING AND  
VISIBILITY. THE MILDER TEMPERATURES AT ONSET WILL SUPPORT PRIMARILY  
RAIN INITIALLY, WITH A TRANSITION TOWARD A RAIN/SNOW MIX AND THEN  
STRAIGHT SNOW FROM NORTHWEST TO SOUTHEAST AS PRECIPITATION RATES  
INCREASE. THIS WILL AFFORD A WINDOW OF IFR CONDITIONS, WITH A BRIEF  
PERIOD OF LIFR POSSIBLE. PASSAGE OF AN ARCTIC FRONT WILL BRING A WIND  
SHIFT TO NORTHWEST BY EARLY AFTERNOON, WITH A RAPID DECLINE IN  
COVERAGE OF SNOW. COLD NORTHWEST FLOW WITH SOME GUSTINESS AND  
LINGERING MVFR STRATUS THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF DAYLIGHT PERIOD.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* LOW FOR CEILING AOB 5000 FEET THIS EVENING. HIGH AFTER 06Z  
TONIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY.  
 
* MEDIUM FOR A PRECIPITATION TYPE OF RAIN AND MELTING SNOW AT  
ONSET AFTER 06Z TONIGHT. HIGH FOR ALL SNOW POST FRONT LATE  
TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING.  
 
* LOW FOR CROSSWIND THRESHOLD EXCEEDENCE SATURDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 348 PM EST FRI JAN 17 2025  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
SHORTWAVE RIDGE AXIS PASSED TO OUR EAST THIS MORNING OPENING THE  
DOOR FOR GUSTY SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS AROUND THE BROAD SURFACE HIGH  
PRESSURE CENTERED OVER THE EASTERN CONUS. GUSTS TO 30 KNOTS HAVE  
HELPED USHER A FAIRLY WARM AIRMASS INTO THE REGION THIS AFTERNOON,  
AND AIDED BY PEAKS OF SUN, HAS RESULTED IN TEMPS INTO THE UPPER 30S  
ACROSS SOUTHEAST MI. THIS WARM AIR WILL BE SHORT LIVED AS A STRONG  
LOW TRACKING THROUGH SOUTHERN CANADA TONIGHT WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR  
LONG DURATION COLD AIR ADVECTION WITH MULTIPLE SURGES OF ARCTIC AIR  
THROUGH THE REGION AS THE LONGWAVE TROUGH STALLS AND DIGS DOWN TO  
THE GULF INTO THE MIDWEEK PERIOD. THIS WILL BE ONE OF THE COLDEST  
AIRMASSES WE'VE EXPERIENCED IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.  
 
FOR TONIGHT, THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL PASS THROUGH ONTARIO  
TONIGHT, PULLING AN ARCTIC COLD FRONT THROUGH SE MI SATURDAY  
MORNING. AS THIS NORTHERN STREAM TROUGH DIGS SOUTHWARD THROUGH THE  
MS VALLEY IT WILL PARTIALLY PHASE WITH THE SOUTHERN STREAM AND A  
SHORTWAVE TRACKING THROUGH OK/MO. A STRONG LOW LEVEL JET AHEAD OF  
THE DEEPENING TROUGH WILL PEAK AROUND 60 KNOTS TONIGHT OVER SOUTHERN  
MI AND IS ALREADY CLOSING IN ON 40 KNOTS HELPING TO GENERATE THE  
GUSTS THIS AFTERNOON. THIS WILL ALSO BRING A SURGE OF MOISTURE UP  
INTO THE AREA JUST AHEAD OF THE ARCTIC FRONT RESULTING IN SEVERAL  
HOURS OF PRECIPITATION TONIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING. MODELS HAVE  
BEEN FAIRLY CONSISTENT WITH AROUND 0.25 INCHES OF QPF, BUT THE PTYPE  
WILL BE AN ISSUE WITH THIS EVENT. STARTING OFF NEAR 40 THIS EVENING,  
WITH TEMPS ABOVE 32F UP THROUGH 6KFT WILL OFFER THE INITIAL PTYPE  
ISSUE WITH TOO MUCH WARM AIR AT ONSET AROUND MIDNIGHT. SO FIRST FEW  
HOURS WILL BE RAIN OR A RAIN SNOW MIX WORKING SOUTH TO NORTH THROUGH  
THE REGION. WARM LAYER GRADUALLY COOLS THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH  
SOUNDING FAVORING COLDER PROFILES AFTER ABOUT 5AM WHICH WOULD OFFER  
MORE SNOW, OR MELTING SNOW, FOR MUCH OF THE AREA ESPECIALLY THE  
HIGHER TERRAIN OF THE IRISH HILLS. LOWER TERRAIN FROM MONROE COUNTY  
UP THROUGH WAYNE AND INTO MACOMB ARE EXPECTED TO HOLD THE WARM AIR  
LONGER. TEMPS MOST OF THE NIGHT WILL RESIDE IN THE LOW TO MID 30S  
ALSO HELPING TO REDUCE SNOW ACCUMULATION. NAM IS DEFINITELY ONE OF  
THE COLDER MODELS WHICH ISN'T SURPRISING WITH HRRR AND RAP COMING IN  
MUCH WARMER, KEEPING RAIN ALMOST THROUGH 12Z SAT. SO WITH SUCH A  
FINE LINE BETWEEN RAIN AND SNOW IN THESE SCENARIOS, WILL HOLD WITH A  
MAINLY 1-2 INCH FORECAST FOR A PORTION OF THE AREA WITH 3 INCHES NOT  
OUT OF THE QUESTIONS IF THE COLD AIR CAN SURGE IN FASTER AND MAINLY  
FOR THE IRISH HILLS. WITH WARM TEMPERATURES HOLDING AT THE SURFACE,  
ANY ACCUMULATION WILL LIKELY BE MINIMIZED ON PAVED SURFACES THAT ARE  
WET TO START AND WARM AT TRANSITION. SO HIGHER ACCUMULATIONS  
EXPECTED ON GRASS OR ELEVATED SURFACES.  
 
WITH THE ARCTIC FRONT SWEEPING ACROSS SATURDAY MORNING, THE MOISTURE  
AND WARM AIR WILL ALL GET SHUNTED EAST WITH COLD AIR ADVECTION  
KICKING IN. SOME LINGERING LIGHT SNOW IN THE MORNING WILL BE  
POSSIBLE UNTIL THE FRONT FINALLY PASSES BUT DRIER AIR WILL END THAT  
BY NOON. WARMEST TEMPS WILL BE EARLY IN THE MORNING WITH TEMPS THEN  
FALLING THROUGH THE DAY. AFTER INCREASING TO AROUND +4C FRIDAY  
EVENING, 850MB TEMPS WILL FALL TO AROUND -4C BY SATURDAY MORNING AND  
-10C BY EVENING. AFTER FALLING FURTHER TO AROUND -20C BY SUNDAY  
AFTERNOON, ECMWF SUGGESTS -25C IS IN PLAY FOR MONDAY WITH THE  
COLDEST AIRMASS SWEEPING THROUGH TUESDAY CLOSE TO -30C. EXPECT A  
LONG DURATION COLD OUTBREAK WITH TEMPERATURES HOLDING BELOW 20F FROM  
SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY NIGHT WITH HIGHS ON TUESDAY AND  
WEDNESDAY IN THE SINGLE DIGITS. WIND CHILL VALUES WILL FALL INTO THE  
NEGATIVE RANGE SUNDAY NIGHT AND WILL REMAIN BELOW ZERO THROUGH  
WEDNESDAY NIGHT. AT THIS TIME THEY LOOK TO BOTTOM OUT IN THE -10 TO -  
20F RANGE WHICH WILL NEED TO BE WATCHED AS WE REFINE THINGS. LOOKS  
LIKELY THAT WE WILL NEED A COLD WEATHER ADVISORY FOR A PERIOD THIS  
WEEK AT A MINIMUM.  
 
MARINE...  
 
A STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACKING NORTH OF LAKE SUPERIOR IS  
SETTING UP A CORRIDOR OF STRONG SOUTHERLY WINDS OVER THE CENTRAL  
GREAT LAKES THIS AFTERNOON. THESE WINDS REACH A PEAK IN MAGNITUDE  
THIS EVENING WITH GUSTS OF 35 TO 40 KNOTS OVER CENTRAL/SOUTHERN LAKE  
HURON. A GALE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT THERE THROUGH TONIGHT.  
ELSEWHERE, WINDS WILL BE MAINLY IN THE 20 TO 30 KNOT RANGE. GALES  
WILL TAPER OFF EARLY SATURDAY MORNING AS THE SYSTEM'S COLD FRONT  
SLIDES THROUGH. THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY NORTHWEST WINDS PICKING UP  
AS COLD ADVECTION ENSUES. THESE PEAK BETWEEN 20 AND 30 KNOTS  
SATURDAY AFTERNOON BUT REMAIN ACTIVE THROUGH THE WEEKEND AS FRIGID  
ARCTIC AIR WORKS INTO THE REGION. INTERVALS OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
SHOWERS AND FREEZING SPRAY CAN BE EXPECTED OVER LAKE HURON SUNDAY  
THROUGH WEDNESDAY.  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...GALE WARNING UNTIL 4 AM EST SATURDAY FOR LHZ362-363-421-441-462>464.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
AVIATION.....MR  
DISCUSSION...DRK  
MARINE.......TF  
 
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