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FXUS63 KDTX 181851  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
251 PM EDT FRI APR 18 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- SHOWERS AND WITH POSSIBLE EMBEDDED THUNDERSTORMS THIS MORNING  
MAINLY NORTH OF M-59.  
 
- WARM AND WINDY TODAY WITH HIGH TEMPERATURES WELL INTO THE 70S TO  
NEAR 80 DEGREES. SOUTHERLY WIND GUSTS OF 30-40 MPH EXPECTED IN THE  
AFTERNOON.  
 
- THERE IS A MARGINAL RISK OF SEVERE THUNDERSTORMS LATE TODAY-  
TONIGHT.  
 
- CHANCE (30-40%) FOR STORMS TO DEVELOP OVER THE SAGINAW VALLEY AND  
THUMB THIS EVENING BETWEEN 8-10PM. AN ISOLATED SEVERE STORM CAPABLE  
OF DAMAGING WIND GUSTS OR 1" HAIL POSSIBLE WITH ANYTHING THAT  
MANAGES TO FORM.  
 
- WIDER SPREAD SHOWERS AND STORMS ARRIVE TONIGHT MAINLY BETWEEN  
10PM-5AM AS A SLOW MOVING COLD FRONT CROSSES. CAN'T COMPLETELY RULE  
OUT A STRONG STORM BUT CHANCES ARE UNLIKELY. SHOWER CHANCES END BY  
SATURDAY MORNING AS THE FRONT FINALLY DEPARTS.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
THE LINE OF SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY DRIVEN BY INERTIA  
GRAVITY WAVE DYNAMICS IS CURRENTLY TRACKING EASTWARD OUT OVER LAKE  
HURON. A FEW SURFACE WIND GUST OBSERVATIONS OF 35 TO 60 MPH WERE  
ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ACTIVITY. SURFACE WINDS ARE NOW FORECASTED TO  
UNIFORMLY RESPOND OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST 20 TO 35 KNOTS THIS AFTERNOON  
AHEAD OF APPROACHING COLD FRONT. LOW CONFIDENCE EXISTS ON THE  
EXPECTED TIMING AND DURATION OF ADDITIONAL SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM  
ACTIVITY THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT. CONVECTIVE INHIBITION FROM WARM  
AIR ALOFT IS EXPECTED TO LIMIT ACTIVITY POSSIBLY UNTIL SOMETIME 04-  
09Z. THERE IS SOME MODEL SIGNAL THAT SUGGESTS THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY  
COULD SPLIT THE AREA TO THE NORTH AND SOUTH.  
 
FOR DTW...UNCERTAIN TIME WINDOW FOR THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT WITH  
THE PASSAGE OF A COLD FRONT BETWEEN 07Z AND 09Z TONIGHT.  
   
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES  
 
* LOW FOR CEILING 5000 FT OR LESS THROUGH THIS EVENING, THEN HIGH  
TONIGHT.  
 
* LOW FOR THUNDERSTORMS AFTER MIDNIGHT FRIDAY NIGHT.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 1040 AM EDT FRI APR 18 2025  
 
UPDATE...  
 
STRONG WARM ADVECTION ONGOING UPSTREAM IS DRIVEN BY A 55 KT LLJ,  
PROVIDING THE MOISTURE AND ELEVATED INSTABILITY FOR AN EARLY MORNING  
ROUND OF SEVERE CONVECTION OVER SE WISCONSIN WHERE HAIL UP TO  
BASEBALL SIZE WAS REPORTED. THIS CONVECTION IS TRACKING ACROSS LAKE  
MICHIGAN AND WEST MICHIGAN WITH SLIGHT WEAKENING AS IT OUTPACES  
AVAILABLE MUCAPE, BUT IS GENERALLY HOLDING TOGETHER BETTER THAN MOST  
HI-RES GUIDANCE SUGGESTED. LATEST MESOANALYSIS SHOWS THE 500-1000  
J/KG MUCAPE GRADIENT IS HELD NEAR THE LAKE MICHIGAN SHORELINE WHICH  
SUGGESTS THE STORMS SHOULD CONTINUE TO WANE IN INTENSITY AS THEY  
PROGRESS EASTWARD INTO THE AREA. DID INCREASE POPS AND THUNDER  
MENTION THROUGH THE MID TO LATE MORNING AS THIS WAVE ROLLS THROUGH,  
BUT PROBABILITY FOR SEVERE WEATHER (MAINLY LARGE HAIL) REMAINS LOW  
GIVEN CURRENT RADAR PRESENTATION AND RECENT REPORTS.  
 
12Z RAOB OUT OF ILX SAMPLED THE INBOUND EML CHARACTERIZED BY 700-500  
MB LAPSE RATES OF 9.3 C/KM AND A 776 MB TEMP OF 17.1 C. THESE VALUES  
ARE EXPECTED TO DAMPEN BEFORE THEY REACH THE AREA LATER THIS  
AFTERNOON, BUT ARE STILL INDICATIVE OF A STRONG CAP THAT IS EXPECTED  
TO MAINTAIN MLCIN TO KEEP MOST OF THE AREA DRY TODAY AFTER THE  
MORNING CONVECTION DEPARTS. ADDITIONAL CONVECTION IS EXPECTED TO  
FIRE OFF UPSTREAM THIS AFTERNOON NEAR A DEVELOPING LOW PRESSURE  
CENTER AND RIDE THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY AND INSTABILITY GRADIENT  
NORTHEAST. THIS MAY REACH PORTIONS OF THE SAGINAW VALLEY LATE  
AFTERNOON TO EARLY EVENING AND OFFERS POTENTIAL FOR ISOLATED SEVERE  
STRONG TO SEVERE STORMS GIVEN A WEAKER CAP AND MARGINAL SURFACE  
BASED INSTABILITY AVAILABLE THERE. LARGE HAIL AND DAMAGING WIND  
APPEAR WILL BE THE MAIN THREATS BUT A TORNADO WOULD BE POSSIBLE AS  
WELL, PARTICULARLY IF ANY STORM LATCHES ONTO THE HELICITY AROUND THE  
WARM FRONTAL BOUNDARY STALLED IN THE VICINITY.  
 
PREV DISCUSSION...  
ISSUED AT 330 AM EDT FRI APR 18 2025  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
UPPER MIDWEST SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SLOWLY TRACKS INTO THE GREAT  
LAKES TODAY WITH THE ELEVATED PORTIONS OF ITS ATTENDANT WARM FRONT  
CURRENTLY WORKING ACROSS LOWER MI THIS MORNING. WHILE THERE IS  
HEALTHY MOISTURE TRANSPORT AT/ABOVE 850MB WITH THIS FRONT, OVERALL  
ASCENT ALONG THIS PORTION OF THE FRONT IS RATHER LACKLUSTER OWING TO  
THE DETACHMENT FROM THE PARENT WAVE/TROUGH WHICH HAS RESULTED IN  
ONLY A NARROW ARC OF SHOWERS ON RADAR. DESPITE THESE RETURNS,  
REMNANT DRY NEAR-SURFACE LAYER FROM DEPARTING HIGH PRESSURE IS  
RESULTING IN ACTUAL SURFACE OBS CLOSER TO SPRINKLES OR A BRIEF LIGHT  
SHOWER. THIS ACTIVITY CLEARS THE AREA BY 09Z AS THE SURFACE WARM  
FRONT BEGINS LIFTING THROUGH SE MI. ADDITIONAL SHOWERS, PERHAPS WITH  
A RUMBLE OF THUNDER, ARE POSSIBLE LATE MORNING ALONG THIS FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY TIED TO THE PASSAGE OF A STRONG RIBBON OF VORTICITY AND ITS  
REMNANT OVERNIGHT CONVECTION FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS- BEST  
POTENTIAL NORTH OF I-69. BY AFTERNOON ALL, OR NEARLY ALL, OF SE MI  
WILL RESIDE WITHIN THE SYSTEM'S WARM SECTOR AS THE SURFACE FRONT  
STALLS OUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE TIP OF THE THUMB AND ALPENA.  
FORECAST SOUNDINGS STILL SUGGEST AN EML LIFTS OVERHEAD BEHIND THE  
SURFACE WARM FRONT SUPPORTING A STRONG ENOUGH CAPPING INVERSION TO  
KEEP THE AREA DRY INTO THE FIRST HALF OF THE EVENING. POTENTIAL  
EXCEPTION IS THE NORTHERN THUMB/TRI-CITIES, THOUGH THIS IS HIGHLY  
DEPENDENT ON THE EXACT POSITIONING OF THE FRONT, AS A SERIES OF  
SMALL VORTICITY ANOMALIES RIDE ALONG THE FRONT GENERATING SCATTERED  
SHOWERS/THUNDERSTORMS THROUGH THE AFTERNOON-EVENING. THE BEST  
CHANCES FOR THIS STILL LOOKING TO OCCUR OVER NORTHERN LOWER MI SO  
HAVE KEPT RUNNING POPS (15-30%) LARGELY THE SAME FROM THE PRIOR  
FORECAST FOR THESE NORTHERNMOST AREAS.  
 
BETTER CHANCES FOR STORMS COMES LATE EVENING AS THE SLOW MOVING  
ATTENDANT COLD FRONT FINALLY BEINGS TO CROSS SOUTHERN LOWER MI.  
WHILE THE MAIN WINDOW FOR THIS ACTIVITY COMES AFTER 03Z, THERE IS  
SIGNAL AMONGST A SUBSET OF THE HIGH RES SOLUTIONS (00Z ARW & 03Z RAP  
IN PARTICULAR) FOR SCATTERED CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT AROUND 00Z AS  
THE EML PEELS AWAY WEAKENING THE CAP COINCIDENT WITH A SURGE IN  
LOWER LEVEL (<850MB) THETA-E FOLDING INTO SOUTH-CENTRAL MI. THIS  
FALLS MORE FAVORABLY WITHIN THE DIURNAL CYCLE WITH MLCAPE STILL  
HOLDING AROUND 1000J/KG AND MID-LEVEL LAPSE RATES AROUND 7 C/KM;  
THOUGH SHEAR IS A BIT MORE MARGINAL IN THIS TIMEFRAME AT ONLY AROUND  
30-35KTS. SHOULD THIS CONVECTION OCCUR (CONFIDENCE IS LOW IN ACTUAL  
OCCURRENCE), AN ISOLATED ORGANIZED CELL CAPABLE OF DAMAGING WINDS  
GUSTS AND/OR 1" HAIL WOULD BE POSSIBLE NORTH OF M-59, IF NOT  
CONFINED ALONG/NORTH OF I-69. THIS WINDOW IS LIKELY THE ""BEST""  
CHANCE FOR SE MI TO SEE A SEVERE STORM FRIDAY THOUGH LIKE MENTIONED  
PRIOR, THERE IS LOW CONFIDENCE IN CONVECTION DEVELOPING DURING THIS  
EVENING TIMEFRAME. THE ACTUAL FRONTAL CONVECTION THEN CROSSES SE MI  
BETWEEN ~03-09Z. NOCTURNAL TIMING GREATLY LIMITS AVAILABLE  
INSTABILITY WITH MUCAPE VALUES HOLDING UNDER 1000J/KG BY THIS TIME  
WITH THE ONLY FAVORABLE FACTOR FOR ORGANIZED STORMS IS BULK SHEAR  
INCREASING TO 40-45KTS. BECAUSE OF THIS, CAN'T COMPLETELY RULE OUT  
AN ISOLATED STRONG TO SEVERE STORM TONIGHT THOUGH OVERALL  
PROBABILITY IS LOW. DUE TO ALL THESE FACTORS, ALL OF SE MI HAS BEEN  
DOWNGRADED TO A DAY 1 MARGINAL RISK FROM SPC.  
 
COLD FRONTAL BOUNDARY CLEARS THE REGION BY SATURDAY MORNING ENDING  
FURTHER SHOWER CHANCES BEFORE IT EVENTUALLY STALLS OUT OVER CENTRAL  
OH/IN. MID-UPPER TROUGHING SLIDES EAST OF THE REGION BY LATE DAY  
SATURDAY ALLOWING SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE TO BRIEFLY BECOME  
ESTABLISHED OVER THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES SATURDAY NIGHT-EARLY  
SUNDAY. NORTHEASTERLY SURFACE FLOW AROUND THIS HIGH DRAWS IN COOLER  
AIR SOUTH OUT OF NORTHERN ONTARIO DROPPING 850MB TEMPS TO AROUND 0C.  
HIGHS SUNDAY ONLY REACH THE MID TO LOW 50S FOR AREAS OUTSIDE THE  
THUMB WITH THE BULK OF THE THUMB LIKELY REMAINING IN THE 40S GIVEN  
FLOW DIRECTLY OFF THE OPEN WATERS OF LAKE HURON.  
 
A SOUTHERN STREAM TROUGH EJECTING OUT OF THE DESERT SOUTHWEST PHASES  
WITH A WEAKER NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE OVER MIDWEST LATE SUNDAY  
LIFTING THE AFOREMENTIONED STALLED FRONTAL BOUNDARY BACK NORTH AS A  
WARM FRONT. MILD BUT RAINY MONDAY AS THE MATURE SURFACE LOW LIFTS  
INTO THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES AND TOWARDS THE ST MARY'S RIVER. WINDY  
CONDITIONS (GUSTS >30MPH) ALSO LOOKING PROBABLE MONDAY GIVEN THE  
CURRENT FAVORED TRACK OF THE LOW CENTER JUST TO OUR WEST SETTING UP  
A STRONG GRADIENT ACROSS THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES.  
 
MARINE...  
 
AN ACTIVE STRETCH OF WEATHER IS EXPECTED TODAY THROUGH SATURDAY  
MORNING. THIS BEGINS WITH A CLUSTER OF SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS  
THAT ORIGINATED ALONG THE UPSTREAM FRONTAL ZONE, BUT WERE DRIVEN  
EASTWARD BY A LOW LEVEL DISTURBANCE. THIS SAME DISTURBANCE IS ALSO  
CONTRIBUTING TO ADVISORY LEVEL WINDS AND WAVES ACROSS THE NEARSHORE  
ZONES. DEPARTURE OF MORNING CONVECTION GIVES WAY TO A QUIETER  
AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING UNTIL THE AFOREMENTIONED FRONTAL ZONE  
REACHES LOWER MICHIGAN TONIGHT. WINDS AHEAD OF THE FRONT VEER TO THE  
SOUTHWEST AND SUBSIDE BELOW ADVISORY THRESHOLDS. THE MAIN IMPACT OF  
THE FRONT WILL BE THE REINVIGORATION OF SHOWERS/STORMS ALONG IT, IN  
WHICH SOME COULD BECOME STRONG TO SEVERE ESPECIALLY IF THEY DEVELOP  
EARLIER IN THE EVENING. THE FRONT EVENTUALLY SETTLES SOUTH OF LAKE  
ERIE BY SATURDAY MORNING, BRINGING AN END TO PRECIPITATION CHANCES.  
THIS WILL BE FOLLOWED BY GENERALLY BENIGN MARINE CONDITIONS FOR THE  
WEEKEND UNTIL THE NEXT WAVE OF LOW PRESSURE IMPACTS THE REGION EARLY  
NEXT WEEK.  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 4 PM EDT THIS AFTERNOON FOR LHZ421-422-  
441>443.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM EDT THIS EVENING FOR LCZ460.  
 
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 10 PM EDT THIS EVENING FOR LEZ444.  
 
 
 
 
 
AVIATION.....  
UPDATE.......TF  
DISCUSSION...KDK  
MARINE.......MV  
 
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