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FXUS63 KDTX 041032  
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
632 AM EDT SAT OCT 4 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- DRY WITH NEAR RECORD WARMTH THIS WEEKEND.  
 
- THE NEXT CHANCE OF RAIN ARRIVES LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY.  
 
- MORE SEASONABLE TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED MID NEXT WEEK.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
MID LEVEL MOISTURE CIRCULATING AROUND A LARGE MID LEVEL RIDGE WILL  
SUPPORT SCATTERED TO PERHAPS BRIEFLY BROKEN INTERVALS OF HIGH BASED  
CLOUDS TODAY. LIGHT SOUTHERLY RETURN FLOW WITHIN A VERY WARM LOW  
LEVEL PROFILE WILL SUPPORT SOME DAYTIME INSTABILITY TODAY. THERE ARE  
A FEW HI RES MODEL SOLUTION WHICH INITIATE CONVECTION THIS  
AFTERNOON. HOWEVER, IT IS EXPECTED THAT MID LEVEL CAPPING WILL PROVE  
A FORMIDABLE LIMITING FACTOR FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN A STRAY SHOWER.  
 
FOR DTW/D21 CONVECTION... THUNDERSTORMS WILL NOT OCCUR THROUGH THE  
FORECAST PERIOD.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* NONE.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 357 AM EDT SAT OCT 4 2025  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
CLEAR SKIES ARE NOTED THIS MORNING STRETCHING FROM TEXAS TO THE  
SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES. A GLANCING SHORTWAVE PERTURBATION HAS LED TO  
ISOLATED CONVECTION OVER NORTHERN MI, BUT THIS WILL REMAIN CONFINED  
TO THE NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE. ANOTHER DRY AND SUNNY START TO  
THE DAY THUS EXPECTED FOR SE MICHIGAN, ALTHOUGH TEMPERATURES THIS  
MORNING ARE RUNNING ABOUT 10 DEGREES WARMER THAN YESTERDAY. PRIMARY  
DISCUSSION POINT TODAY IS NEAR DAILY RECORD HIGH TEMPERATURES, WHICH  
WILL CLIMB INTO THE UPPER 80S THIS AFTERNOON-EVENING. ANOMALOUS  
RIDGING AND WARM COLUMN TEMPERATURES (T IN THE 90TH-99TH PERCENTILE  
IN THE SUB-500MB LAYER) ARE DRIVING THIS WARM AIRMASS ON THE LARGER  
SCALE, WHILE WELL-MIXED PROFILES AND LEAN MOISTURE INFLUENCE AFFORD  
LITTLE OPPORTUNITY FOR UNDERACHIEVEMENT.  
 
REMNANT MID-LEVEL STABILITY PROVIDES ENOUGH OF A CAPPING INVERSION  
TO PREVENT DEEP CONVECTION TODAY. THAT SAID, NEARLY ALL MODELS DO  
GENERATE A SHALLOW (~5.0 KFT) LAYER OF INSTABILITY AT THE TOP OF THE  
BOUNDARY LAYER THAT IS LEADING TO WEAK SIMULATED REFLECTIVITY  
RETURNS IN THE HI-RES GUIDANCE. A STRAY, LOW IMPACT SHOWER CANNOT BE  
RULED OUT THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
MEANWHILE, A DEEP PACIFIC WAVE TRAVERSES FROM THE FOUR CORNERS  
REGION TOWARD THE PLAINS SUNDAY. THE WAVE TAKES ON A NEGATIVE TILT  
AND AT THIS POINT INDUCES A SURFACE LOW THAT IS DRIVEN POLEWARD BY  
THE PARENT WAVE. THE GREAT LAKES RESIDE BETWEEN THIS LOW AND THE  
DEPARTING HIGH PRESSURE, WHICH HOLDS STEADFAST OVER THE MID-  
ATLANTIC. THE CONSTRICTED PRESSURE GRADIENT LEADS TO GUSTY SOUTHWEST  
FLOW, ESPECIALLY TOWARD THE SAGINAW VALLEY/THUMB WHERE AFTERNOON  
GUSTS APPROACH 25-30 MPH SUNDAY AND MONDAY. THE LEAD WAVE LIFTS WELL  
NORTH OF THE GREAT LAKES, WITH ITS COLD FRONT GRADUALLY DRAGGING  
EASTWARD INTO THE GREAT LAKES REGION. AN ACTIVE PRECIPITATION  
RESPONSE IS EXPECTED WITHIN THE FRONTAL ZONE, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING  
THE DEEP LAYER OF RETURN FLOW THAT WILL BE ESTABLISHED AT THE THIS  
TIME. RAIN BEGINS MONDAY AFTERNOON ACROSS THE NORTH AND GRADUALLY  
EXPANDS SOUTH AS THE FRONT SLOWLY APPROACHES THE CWA.  
 
THE FRONT WILL EVENTUALLY BE ACCELERATED INTO SE MICHIGAN TUESDAY  
MORNING AS A POTENT SHORTWAVE BREAKS AWAY FROM THE POLAR LOW. THIS  
INITIATES A MORE RAPID HEIGHT FALL RESPONSE, WHICH WILL BE COUPLED  
WITH RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION JET DYNAMICS TO SUPPORT STRONG SYNOPTIC  
FORCING WITH THE FROPA. WIDESPREAD RAIN IS EXPECTED AS A RESULT, WITH  
ENSEMBLE 24-HOUR QPF STATISTICS STILL CALCULATING AN INTERQUARTILE  
RANGE OF 0.25-0.50" WITH UPPER 25TH PERCENTILE VALUES UPWARDS OF 1".  
TIMING OF THE FRONT SEEMS TO FAVOR A MORNING TO MID-DAY PASSAGE,  
ULTIMATELY LIMITING THE AMOUNT OF INSTABILITY THAT CAN BUILD INTO THE  
WARM SECTOR. SO FOR NOW, THE SETUP LOOKS TO FAVOR MOSTLY SHOWERS  
WITH EMBEDDED THUNDER. PASSAGE OF THE FRONT SIGNIFIES A SIGNIFICANT  
COOL DOWN WITH H8 TEMPERATURES DROPPING TOWARD 0 C AND DAYTIME HIGHS  
SETTLING INTO THE LOW 60S. OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL ALSO HAVE A SHOT AT  
DROPPING BELOW 40 DEGREES WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.  
 
MARINE...  
 
A SERIES OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEMS WILL TRAVEL FROM THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS INTO THE JAMES BAY THIS WEEKEND. WHILE THIS WILL NOT RESULT  
IN ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES, THIS WILL  
STRENGTHEN THE PRESSURE GRADIENT SLIGHTLY, REINFORCING SOUTHERLY  
FLOW ACROSS GREAT LAKES WITH GUST POTENTIAL RANGING BETWEEN 15 TO 20  
KNOTS, FAVORED ACROSS LAKE HURON.  
 
MUCH BIGGER CHANGES ARRIVE MONDAY AS A STRONG COLD FRONT SWEEPS  
ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. PRIOR THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT, SOUTH FLOW  
WIND SPEEDS WILL INCREASE TOMORROW NIGHT, BRINGING GUST POTENTIAL UP  
TO 25 KNOTS OVER LAKE HURON. INTRUSION OF COOLER AIR TUESDAY WILL  
BRING CONTINUATION OF BREEZY CONDITIONS, BUT THE EXACT MAGNITUDE OF  
GUST POTENTIAL REMAINS UNCERTAIN. GUSTS UP TO 30 KNOTS LOOK POSSIBLE  
AT THIS TIME.  
 
CLIMATE...  
 
THE RECORD HIGHS FOR TODAY (SATURDAY, OCTOBER 4TH).  
 
DETROIT: 89 DEGREES (SET IN 1951)  
FLINT: 88 DEGREES (SET IN 1951)  
SAGINAW: 87 DEGREES (SET IN 1967)  
 
THE RECORD HIGHS FOR SUNDAY, OCTOBER 5TH.  
 
DETROIT: 88 DEGREES (SET IN 1951)  
FLINT: 88 DEGREES (SET IN 1922)  
SAGINAW: 86 DEGREES (SET IN 2007)  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...NONE.  
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
AVIATION.....SC  
DISCUSSION...MV  
MARINE.......AM  
CLIMATE......MV  
 
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