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FXUS63 KDTX 041843  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
243 PM EDT SAT OCT 4 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- DRY WITH NEAR RECORD WARMTH THIS WEEKEND.  
 
- THE NEXT CHANCE OF RAIN ARRIVES LATE MONDAY INTO TUESDAY.  
 
- MORE SEASONABLE TEMPERATURES THE LATTER HALF OF THE WEEK.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
CONDITIONS FOR THE FIRST WEEKEND IN OCTOBER MARKED BY NEAR RECORD  
BREAKING WARMTH, AS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN HOLDS POSITION WITHIN THE  
NORTHERN EXPANSE OF A SPRAWLING 588 DM UPPER RIDGE. A WELL MIXED  
PROFILE WITHIN LIGHT SOUTHERLY FLOW AND FULL INSOLATION SENDING  
TEMPERATURE INTO THE MID-UPPER 80S AREAWIDE LATE THIS AFTERNOON.  
THERE REMAINS A REMOTE OPPORTUNITY FOR A SHOWER OR TWO TO MANIFEST  
THROUGH THE EVENING HOURS AS A NARROW THETA-E GRADIENT WORKS TO  
ENGAGE EXISTING WEAK BOUNDARY LAYER INSTABILITY. NEAR TERM HI RES  
OUTPUT STILL SUGGESTIVE OF THIS POTENTIAL, MAINLY NORTH/WEST OF  
FLINT. ANY ACTIVITY LIMITED IN SCALE, DURATION AND MAGNITUDE, THANKS  
TO A WELL CAPPED ENVIRONMENT LACKING IN GREATER FORCED ASCENT.  
 
UPPER RIDGE AXIS ANCHORS OVER THE EAST COAST SUNDAY AND MONDAY, AS  
GREATER HEIGHT FALLS TAKE SHAPE OVER THE PLAINS. NET RESULT LOCALLY  
REMAINS CONTINUED HIGH MAGNITUDE WARMTH, REINFORCED BY IMPROVING  
DEPTH AND MAGNITUDE TO EXISTING SOUTHWEST FLOW. THIS WILL CONTINUE  
TO SUPPORT AFTERNOON TEMPERATURES WELL IN THE 80S BOTH DAYS. A  
SUFFICIENTLY CAPPED, STABLE PROFILE ENSURES DRY CONDITIONS TO FINISH  
THE WEEKEND PERIOD. AS UPSTREAM HEIGHT FALLS BEGIN TO IMPINGE ON THE  
GREAT LAKES, A FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL EASE INTO NORTHERN LOWER MI BY  
MONDAY. A SMALLER SUBSET OF THE MODEL SOLUTION SPACE INTRODUCES SOME  
LOWER END POTENTIAL FOR CONVECTION DURING THE DAYLIGHT PERIOD MONDAY  
AS PRE-FRONTAL MOISTURE QUALITY IMPROVES WITH TIME. NBM OUTPUT AND  
THE CONCURRENT OUTGOING FORECAST MAINTAIN LOWER END POTENTIAL MID  
AFTERNOON ONWARD, BUT COULD CERTAINLY SEE RAINFALL CHANCES HOLDING  
OFF UNTIL AFTER 00Z SHOULD MEANINGFUL FORCED ASCENT FAIL TO  
MATERIALIZE WITHIN THE WARM SECTOR TO OVERCOME LINGERING CAPPING.  
 
SOUTHEASTWARD SAGGING COLD FRONTAL BOUNDARY BECOMES THE FOCUS MONDAY  
NIGHT AND TUESDAY, AS GREATER HEIGHT FALLS SLOWLY COMMENCE WITHIN  
THE SOUTHERN EXPANSE OF A DEEPER MID LEVEL WAVE PIVOTING ACROSS  
ONTARIO. HIGH PROBABILITY OF RAINFALL THIS PERIOD GIVEN THE DEGREE  
OF FRONTAL CONVERGENCE, POCKETS OF HEIGHTED DCVA AND LIKELIHOOD FOR  
ENHANCEMENT WITHIN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF ASSOCIATED UPPER JET  
CORE. A PERIOD OF STRONGER FGEN PLAUSIBLE SHOULD THE UPPER JET  
FORCING MORE FAVORABLY INTERSECT THE ADVANCING FRONTAL BOUNDARY.  
FORECAST WILL HIGHLIGHT A BROAD QPF SWATH OF GENERALLY ONE QUARTER  
TO ONE HALF INCH OF TOTAL RAINFALL AT THIS STAGE, ACKNOWLEDGING THE  
75TH PERCENTILE RESIDES CLOSER TO THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH WITHIN  
GRAND ENSEMBLE SOLUTION SPACE. TEMPERATURES EDGE SLIGHTLY BELOW  
NORMAL WITHIN THE POST-FRONTAL ENVIRONMENT WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY,  
AS BUILDING HIGH PRESSURE BRINGS ANOTHER STRETCH OF DRY CONDITIONS.  
 

 
   
MARINE
 
 
A SERIES OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEMS WILL TRAVEL FROM THE NORTHERN  
PLAINS INTO THE JAMES BAY LATE TONIGHT THROUGH TOMORROW. WHILE THIS  
WILL NOT RESULT IN ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES,  
THIS WILL STRENGTHEN THE PRESSURE GRADIENT SLIGHTLY, REINFORCING  
SOUTHERLY FLOW ACROSS GREAT LAKES WITH GUST POTENTIAL RANGING  
BETWEEN 15 TO 20 KNOTS, FAVORED ACROSS LAKE HURON.  
 
MUCH BIGGER CHANGES ARRIVE MONDAY AS A STRONG COLD FRONT SWEEPS  
ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES. PRIOR THE PASSAGE OF THE FRONT, SOUTH FLOW  
WIND SPEEDS WILL INCREASE TOMORROW NIGHT, BRINGING GUST POTENTIAL UP  
TO 25 KNOTS OVER LAKE HURON. INTRUSION OF COOLER AIR TUESDAY WILL  
BRING CONTINUATION OF BREEZY CONDITIONS, WITH SUSTAINED WINDS OF 20  
TO 25 KNOTS AND GUSTS UP TO 30 KNOTS FOR LAKE HURON GIVEN THE MORE  
FAVORABLE NORTH TO NORTHWEST FETCH.  
 

 
   
CLIMATE
 
 
THE RECORD HIGHS FOR SATURDAY, OCTOBER 4TH.  
 
DETROIT: 89 DEGREES (SET IN 1951)  
FLINT: 88 DEGREES (SET IN 1951)  
SAGINAW: 87 DEGREES (SET IN 1967)  
 
THE RECORD HIGHS FOR SUNDAY, OCTOBER 5TH.  
 
DETROIT: 88 DEGREES (SET IN 1951)  
FLINT: 88 DEGREES (SET IN 1922)  
SAGINAW: 86 DEGREES (SET IN 2007)  
 

 
   
PREV DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 1250 PM EDT SAT OCT 4 2025  
 
AVIATION...  
 
ANTI-CYCLONIC FLOW THROUGH NEARLY THE ENTIRE COLUMN CONTINUES TO  
SUPPORT BROAD SCALE SUBSIDENCE AND THE LACK OF ORGANIZED CLOUD  
PRODUCTION. THE NEAR SURFACE HIGH CENTER IS ANCHORED TO THE  
SOUTHEAST OF THE REGION, WHICH WILL OPEN THE DOOR FOR SOME MODEST  
MOISTURE ADVECTION INTO CENTRAL LOWER MICHIGAN THIS AFTERNOON. THUS  
FAR, DIURNAL CUMULUS HAS FAILED TO INITIATE - HOWEVER, EXPECTATIONS  
ARE FOR A CLOUD FIELD TO SPROUT WITH THE NEAR RECORD WARMTH LATER  
THIS AFTERNOON. AN ISOLATED SHOWER IS POSSIBLE WITH ANY CONGESTUS  
PATCH THAT MANAGES TO GEL - ESPECIALLY IN VICINITY OF FNT OR MBS.  
OTHERWISE, LIGHT SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL PERSIST THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING -  
THEN FRESHEN TOWARD MIDDAY AS AGGRESSIVE MIXING OCCURS - AND SOME  
DIURNAL CUMULUS DEVELOP.  
 
FOR DTW/D21 CONVECTION... THUNDERSTORMS WILL NOT OCCUR THROUGH THE  
FORECAST PERIOD.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* NONE.  
 

 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...NONE.  
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...MR  
MARINE.......AM  
CLIMATE......MV  
AVIATION.....MANN  
 
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