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FXUS63 KDTX 070713  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
313 AM EDT TUE OCT 7 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- TURNING MUCH COOLER TODAY WITH AREAS OF SHOWERS.  
 
- COOL AND DRY CONDITIONS LAST THROUGH THE END OF THE WEEK.  
 
- FROST IS POSSIBLE WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY NIGHT.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
DEEP LAYER FRONTOGENESIS HAS HELD NEARLY STATIONARY DURING THE NIGHT  
FROM IOWA/NRN ILLINOIS INTO LAKE HURON, WHICH HAS KEPT THE MORE  
WIDESPREAD SHOWER/SCATTERED THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY GENERALLY  
NORTHWEST OF AN OWOSSO TO SANDUSKY LINE. DEEP LAYER MOISTURE  
TRANSPORT AND ISENTROPIC ASCENT HAS BEEN SUSTAINING ANOTHER REGION  
OF WIDESPREAD SHOWERS ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY. LOCALIZED SUBSIDENCE  
BETWEEN THESE FEATURES HAS IN TURN HELD MOST OF THE SOUTHERN HALF OF  
THE FORECAST AREA PRECIP FREE THROUGH THE LATE NIGHT HOURS.  
 
A VEERING OF THE MID LEVEL FLOW TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST ACROSS THE  
NRN GREAT LAKES TODAY WILL HELP SLOWLY DRIVE THE DEEP LAYER FRONTAL  
ZONE ACROSS SE MI. SYSTEM RELATIVE ISENTROPIC ANALYSES SUGGESTS  
CONTINUED FRONTAL FORCING ACROSS THE NORTHERN PORTIONS OF THE  
FORECAST AREA THIS MORNING WHILE SLOWLY SINKING SOUTH, WITH CONTINUED  
WEAK MID LEVEL INSTABILITY OVERHEAD. MODEL SOLUTIONS INDICATE AN  
INCREASE IN UPPER DIVERGENCE WITHIN THE RIGHT ENTRANCE REGION OF AN  
UPPER JET STREAK THIS AFTERNOON WHICH SHOULD SUSTAIN SOME SEMBLANCE  
OF DEEP LAYER FRONTOGENESIS ACROSS A GOOD PORTION OF SE MI,  
SUPPORTING RAIN CHANCES INTO THE AFTERNOON OVER MUCH OF THE AREA.  
THE INSTABILITY AXIS IS FORECAST TO BECOME ALIGNED GENERALLY ALONG OR  
JUST SOUTHEAST OF AN ADRIAN TO DETROIT LINE TOWARD EARLY AFTERNOON.  
THIS IS LIKELY TO COINCIDE WITH THE SURFACE COLD FRONT (PROJECTED TO  
BE OVER THE I-69 CORRIDOR BY DAYBREAK) AS IT IS FORECAST TO MOVE FROM  
DETROIT TO TOLEDO BETWEEN 16Z AND 19Z. THIS SUGGEST PRECIP CHANCES  
ACROSS THE FAR SOUTH MAY BE MORE TIED TO CONVECTIVE POTENTIAL ALONG  
THE LOWER PORTIONS OF THE TROPOSPHERIC FRONT AS OPPOSED TO THE MORE  
PERSISTENT DEEP LAYER FRONTAL ASCENT FARTHER NORTH. UPSTREAM  
OBSERVATIONS AND MODEL PROJECTED SURFACE TEMPERATURES INDICATE  
TEMPERATURES DROPPING INTO THE 50S BEHIND THE COLD FRONT. SOME  
REBOUND IN MORNING TEMPS ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE NORTHERN SAGINAW  
VALLEY WHERE LATE AFTERNOON DRY AIR ADVECTION WILL ALLOW SOME DIURNAL  
RECOVERY.  
 
MORE PROGRESSIVE FLOW WILL DRIVE STRONG HIGH PRESSURE INTO THE GREAT  
LAKES REGION FROM THE NORTHWEST TONIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY, DOWNSTREAM  
OF A BUILDING MID LEVEL RIDGE OVER THE UPPER MIDWEST AND NORTHERN  
ONTARIO. NORTHERLY FLOW IN ADVANCE OF THE LOW LEVEL ANTICYCLONE WILL  
PROVIDE A SUSTAINED PERIOD OF COLD AND DRY AIR ADVECTION TONIGHT  
INTO WEDNESDAY. 850MB TEMPS ARE FORECAST TO PLUNGE TO 0 TO -1C  
ACROSS MUCH OF SE MI ON WEDNESDAY, LIMITING DAYTIME HIGHS TO THE MID  
50S TO LOW 60S. NAM SOUNDINGS DO INDICATE THAT A LAKE HURON MOISTURE  
FLUX ON WEDNESDAY WILL RESULT IN AT LEAST AN INTERVAL OF STRATO CU,  
PARTICULARLY ACROSS THE THUMB. SHALLOW CONVECTIVE DEPTHS WILL HINDER  
ANY LAKE EFFECT RAIN. THE DURATION OF CLOUD COVER WILL BE LIMITED BY  
AN AGGRESSIVE PUSH OF DRY AIR. THIS WILL OPEN THE DOOR TO CLEAR  
SKIES WED NIGHT/THURS MORNING, WARRANTING LOWS IN THE 30S WHICH WILL  
GIVE MANY AREAS THEIR FIRST FROST OF THE SEASON. THE LARGE HIGH  
PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL GRADUALLY DRIFT EAST OF THE REGION BY THE END OF  
THE WORK WEEK, ALLOWING A GRADUAL MODERATION IN TEMPERATURES UNDER  
CLEAR SKIES.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
POST FRONTAL COLD AIR ADVECTION TODAY AS 850 MB TEMPS FALL INTO THE  
LOW SINGLE NUMBERS TO NEAR ZERO. A PERIOD OF WIND GUSTS UP TO 30  
KNOTS IS EXPECTED ACROSS NORTHERN LAKE HURON THIS EVENING WITH THE  
INCREASED BOUNDARY LAYER BEFORE WINDS SLOWLY DIMINISH AND VEER NORTH-  
NORTHEAST ON WEDNESDAY AS EXPANSIVE HIGH PRESSURE ARRIVES. DESPITE  
WINDS DIMINISHING, THE NORTHERLY FLOW WILL LEAD TO LARGER WAVES OVER  
THE SOUTHERN LAKE HURON BASIN TUESDAY EVENING INTO WEDNESDAY, WITH  
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORIES NEEDED DURING THIS TIME FOR THE NEARSHORE  
WATERS AS THE COLD AIRMASS LEADS TO UNSTABLE LOW LEVEL PROFILES  
CONDUCIVE TO GOOD WAVE GROWTH WITH THE LONG NORTH-NORTHEAST FETCH.  
 
 
   
HYDROLOGY  
 
FRONTAL FORCING HAS HELD NEARLY PERSISTENT ACROSS THE SAGINAW VALLEY  
AND NORTHERN THUMB REGION DURING THE OVERNIGHT. COMBINATION OF RADAR  
AND A FEW GAUGE REPORTS SUGGEST RAIN TOTALS ALREADY BETWEEN A HALF  
TO THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH, WITH SOME LOCALIZED AREAS OVER AN  
INCH. THERE IS EXPECTED TO BE A LITTLE MORE OF A SOUTHWARD SHIFT IN  
ANY ADDITIONAL HEAVIER RAIN DURING THE DAY. GIVEN THE CURRENT  
OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS AND RECENT MODEL GUIDANCE, LOCATIONS SOUTH OF  
THE I-69 CORRIDOR WILL LIKELY SEE RAIN TOTALS RANGE FROM JUST A  
TENTH TO A HALF INCH.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 1205 AM EDT TUE OCT 7 2025  
 
AVIATION...  
 
SHOWERS AND SCATTERED THUNDERSTORMS EXPAND FARTHER ACROSS SE MI LATE  
TONIGHT AS A COLD FRONT MOVES NW TO SE ACROSS THE AREA. COVERAGE IS  
NEAR PEAK IN THE MBS AREA AT FORECAST ISSUANCE WHICH STEADILY FILLS  
IN WHILE MOVING TOWARD DTW BY EARLY MORNING AS THE FRONT MOVES  
OVERHEAD. THE SYSTEM ALSO BRINGS SOLID COVERAGE OF MVFR CEILING  
SPREADING SOUTHWARD WITH THE FRONT BUT ALSO SPREADING IN FROM IN/OH  
NORTHWARD INTO THE DTW AREA WHICH THEN QUICKLY FILLS IN TOWARD PTK  
AND FNT WHILE TRENDING INTO IFR ALL AREAS. THE BEST TIME WINDOW FOR  
THUNDERSTORMS AT MBS AND FNT IS FOR A FEW HOURS AFTER MIDNIGHT  
FOLLOWED BY GREATER UNCERTAINTY TOWARD THE DTW CORRIDOR WHERE STORMS  
MAY NOT OCCUR UNTIL EARLY TO MID MORNING. CEILING IS ALSO FIRST TO  
IMPROVE TOWARD MBS MID TO LATE MORNING WHILE MVFR CEILING AND POST  
FRONTAL SHOWERS LINGER LONGER TOWARD DTW, HOWEVER A RETURN TO VFR IS  
PROJECTED AT ALL LOCATIONS BY 21Z INTO TUESDAY EVENING.  
 
FOR DTW/D21 CONVECTION... THERE IS A LOW CHANCE (30%) FOR  
THUNDERSTORMS TO IMPACT THE DTW AIRSPACE LATE TONIGHT THROUGH MID  
MORNING.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* HIGH FOR CEILING 5000 FT OR LESS LATE TONIGHT AND TUESDAY  
MORNING.  
 
* LOW FOR THUNDERSTORMS LATE TONIGHT AND TUESDAY MORNING BETWEEN 10Z  
AND 14Z.  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
LAKE HURON...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 10 PM EDT WEDNESDAY  
FOR LHZ421-441>443.  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING TO 4 PM EDT WEDNESDAY  
FOR LHZ422.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...SC  
MARINE.......SF  
HYDROLOGY....SC  
AVIATION.....BT  
 
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