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FXUS63 KDTX 091014  
AFDDTX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
614 AM EDT THU OCT 9 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- FROST ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT THROUGH 9AM FOR MUCH OF SOUTHEAST  
MICHIGAN OUTSIDE OF THE DETROIT URBAN HEAT ISLAND.  
 
- POTENTIAL FOR FROST FRIDAY MORNING AS TEMPERATURES FALL INTO THE  
MID TO UPPER 30S.  
 
- UNSETTLED CONDITIONS POSSIBLE THIS WEEKEND AS LOW PRESSURE MOVES  
INTO THE GREAT LAKES.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
THE CENTER OF HIGH PRESSURE JUST NORTH OF LAKE HURON WILL DRIFT TO  
EASTERN ONTARIO TODAY, SUSTAINING A LIGHT EASTERLY WIND ACROSS SE  
MI. WHILE STRONG SUBSIDENCE WILL CONTINUE TO FOSTER MAINLY CLEAR  
SKIES, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME INTERVALS OF CLOUDS TRACKING ACROSS THE  
AREA DUE TO THE MOISTURE FLUX OFF THE LAKES. CONSIDERING THE DEGREE  
OF DRY AIR, ANY STRATO CU OFF LAKES HURON/ERIE SHOULD REMAIN FEW TO  
SCT. BASES WILL BE VFR ALTHOUGH LOWERING OF THE INVERSION THROUGH  
SUBSIDENCE MAY LEAD TO A FEW MVFR BASED CLOUDS TONIGHT.  
 
FOR DTW/D21 CONVECTION...NO CONVECTION WILL OCCUR THROUGH THE TAF  
PERIOD.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* NONE  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 352 AM EDT THU OCT 9 2025  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
A CHILLY START TO THE DAY ACROSS SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN, WITH MOST  
LOCATIONS REPORTING TEMPERATURES IN THE MID 30S UNDER CLEAR SKIES  
AND LIGHT NORTHEAST WINDS. A FROST ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT  
THROUGH 9AM AS A RESULT. LOCALIZED WARMER TEMPERATURES ARE OBSERVED  
DOWNWIND OF SAGINAW BAY WHERE STRATUS HAS MOVED INLAND AND DISRUPTED  
THE RADIATIVE COOLING PROCESS.  
 
REMAINDER OF THE DAY WILL FEEL VERY SIMILAR TO YESTERDAY WITH HIGH  
TEMPERATURES JUST BARELY REACHING 60 DEGREES UNDER PLENTY OF EARLY  
OCTOBER SUNSHINE AND THERMAL TROUGHING. THE 00Z KDTX RAOB SAMPLED  
850MB TEMPERATURES RIGHT AT 0 C, MARKING A ~15 C DROP IN H8  
TEMPERATURE OVER THE PAST 48 HOURS. MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN TODAY  
AND YESTERDAY IS THE DEPARTURE OF THE SURFACE HIGH, WHICH  
CONTRIBUTES TO VEERING WIND PROFILES TOWARD THE EAST-SOUTHEAST. NOT  
EXPECTING LAKE CLOUD TO PUSH AS FAR INLAND TODAY GIVEN THE SHIFTING  
WINDS/SHORTER FETCH, BUT THERE IS POTENTIAL FOR LAKE ERIE MOISTURE  
TO GET DRAWN INTO THE DETROIT METRO REGION TONIGHT. ANY CLOUD COVER  
WILL AGAIN INHIBIT RADIATIVE COOLING, BUT CLOUD-FREE AREAS SEE LOWS  
IN THE MID 30S MAKING FRIDAY MORNING ANOTHER CANDIDATE FOR FROST  
HEADLINES.  
 
LOW AMPLITUDE RIDGING HOLDS IN PLACE FOR THE MAJORITY OF TODAY, BUT  
QUICKLY BREAKS DOWN OVERNIGHT AS A NORTHERN STREAM PV ANOMALY CUTS  
OFF AND DIVES EQUATORWARD TOWARD THE GREAT LAKES FRIDAY. MID-LEVEL  
HEIGHTS FALL IN RESPONSE WITH A SHIFT TO SOUTHWEST FLOW IN THE LOW  
LEVELS TO KICKSTART WARM ADVECTION. THIS BRINGS DAYTIME HIGHS INTO  
THE MID-UPPER 60S AND INCREASING CLOUDS AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT THAT  
DIVES ACROSS THE AREA FRIDAY EVENING. THE FROPA WILL STRUGGLE TO  
GENERATE MUCH QPF GIVEN SHALLOW MOISTURE DEPTHS, MODEST FORCING, AND  
A VERY DRY SUB-CLOUD LAYER.  
 
A MUCH STRONGER SYNOPTIC RESPONSE ARRIVES OVERNIGHT FRIDAY AS THE  
COMPACT VORT MAX MOVES INTO THE GREAT LAKES. MODELS STILL EXHIBIT  
LARGE VARIANCE IN THE TRACK OF THE UPPER LOW, RANGING ANYWHERE FROM  
LAKE MICHIGAN TO ONTARIO. MOST SOLUTIONS SUPPORT MEASURABLE QPF  
ACROSS SE MICHIGAN, BUT RAINFALL AMOUNTS WILL BE CLOSELY TIED TO OUR  
POSITION WRT THE LOW. THE LESS LIKELY SCENARIO IS ONE THAT FAVORS A  
WESTERN TRACK (I.E. 00Z NAM) WHERE SE MICHIGAN IS UPSTREAM OF THE  
CIRCULATION IN A REGION OF STRENGTHENING MOIST ISENTROPIC ASCENT AS  
THE LOW OCCLUDES. THIS IS REPRESENTED IN A HANDFUL OF  
MODELS/ENSEMBLE MEMBERS, AND WOULD BE THE MOST IMPACTFUL AS IT  
GENERATES A QPF BULLSEYE OVER SE MICHIGAN. THE MORE LIKELY SOLUTION  
BRINGS THE LOW TRACK EITHER OVER LOWER MI OR LAKE HURON, PUSHING THE  
QPF BULLSEYE INTO ONTARIO AND SUPPORTING MORE OF A CONVECTIVE/SHOWERY  
RAIN EVENT THAN A BROAD STRATIFORM RAIN. LEAN MOISTURE DEPTH  
INITIALLY WILL BE SUPPLEMENTED AS MOISTURE GETS DRAWN IN FROM A  
COASTAL ATLANTIC LOW. WHEREVER THE LOW ENDS UP, THIS MOISTURE WRAPS  
ALONG THE ISENTROPIC SLOPE WHICH CONTRIBUTES TO THE AFOREMENTIONED  
HIGHER QPF POTENTIAL. OTHERWISE, EXPECTING A STANDARD INFLUENCE OF  
CLOUDS/PRECIPITATION ON TEMPERATURE PROSPECTS FOR THIS WEEKEND, WITH  
THE OUTGOING NBM FORECAST IN LINE WITH ENSEMBLE MEANS.  
 
MARINE...  
 
THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES REMAIN UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF HIGH PRESSURE  
NOW CENTERED OVER SOUTHERN ONTARIO MAINTAINING LIGHT EASTERLY  
TURNING SOUTHERLY WINDS. WINDS CONTINUE TO VEER TO THE SOUTHWEST BY  
TONIGHT AS THE HIGH DEPARTS FOR THE NORTHEAST AHEAD OF LOW PRESSURE  
DROPPING OUT NORTHERN CANADA. ONCE THE SHIFT TO SW FLOW OCCURS,  
WINDS UNDERGO STEADY STRENGTHENING INTO FRIDAY WITH GUSTS OVER  
NORTHERN LAKE HURON PEAKING BETWEEN 20-25KTS (10-20KT GUSTS OVER THE  
REST OF THE REGION). AFOREMENTIONED LOW IS EXPECTED TO BECOME A  
CLOSED LOW AS IT CROSSES THE GREAT LAKES RESULTING IN SLOW  
PROGRESSION ACROSS THE AREA THROUGH THE WEEKEND HOWEVER THIS SHOULD  
ALSO WINDS UNDER 30KTS, INSTEAD GENERALLY PEAKING BETWEEN 15-25KTS.  
PERIODIC SHOWERS ACCOMPANY THIS LOW AS WILL WATERSPOUT CHANCES AS  
THE COOLER AIRMASS IS REINFORCED.  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...FROST ADVISORY UNTIL 9 AM EDT THIS MORNING FOR MIZ047>049-053>055-  
060>063-068>070-075-082-083.  
 
LAKE HURON...NONE.  
LAKE ST CLAIR...NONE.  
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...NONE.  
 
 
 
 
AVIATION.....SC  
DISCUSSION...MV  
MARINE.......KDK  
 
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