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FXUS63 KDTX 270520  
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AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DETROIT/PONTIAC MI  
1220 AM EST THU NOV 27 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- A WIND ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 4 AM TOMORROW MORNING.  
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS INTO THIS EVENING. HIGHLY VARIABLE  
ACCUMULATIONS OF A DUSTING TO 2 INCHES EXPECTED BY TOMORROW  
MORNING.  
 
- WIND CHILLS DROP INTO THE TEENS THURSDAY MORNING AND INTO THE 20S  
BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
- SNOW SHOWERS AND GUSTY WINDS (30-40 MPH) CONTINUE THANKSGIVING DAY.  
ANOTHER DUSTING TO 2 INCHES WILL BE POSSIBLE, ALTHOUGH THE THUMB  
REGION WILL SEE LOCALLY HIGHER AMOUNTS.  
 
- WINTER SYSTEM OVER THE WEEKEND BRINGS POTENTIAL FOR SEVERAL INCHES  
OF SNOW ACCUMULATION.  
 
 
   
AVIATION  
 
LAKE EFFECT SNOW ACTIVITY IS STILL UNDERWAY WITH CEILINGS SETTLING  
BETWEEN LOW VFR AND ELEVATED MVFR STRATOCUMULUS. RADAR AND MODEL  
TRENDS SUGGEST MAINLY LIGHT/FLURRY ACTIVITY FOR MOST TERMINALS  
OVERNIGHT, WITH HIGHER LIKELIHOOD FOR VISIBILITY REDUCTIONS DUE TO  
SNOW SHOWERS SPECIFICALLY AT THE SOUTHERN TERMINALS. DID TEMPO IN  
SOME IFR FOR DTW AND YIP. WINDS HAVE HELD FROM A WSW DIRECTION PAST  
PRIOR EXPECTATIONS, AND ELEVATED SUSTAINED WINDS/GUSTS PERSIST INTO  
THURSDAY AS THE LOW-LEVELS REMAIN WELL-MIXED. LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
SHOWERS ALSO CONTINUE INTO THURSDAY, ALBEIT WITH SOMEWHAT LOWER  
COVERAGE. ADJUSTED PROB30S TO TEMPOS FOR THE MIDDAY HOURS FOR LIGHT  
SNOW AND MVFR CEILINGS, THEN PREVAILING FOR THE AFTERNOON AND  
EVENING HOURS GIVEN LOW CONFIDENCE IN WHICH BANDED STRUCTURES  
INTERSECT ANY TAF SITE. DAYTIME GUSTS HOLD IN THE UPPER 20 TO LOWER  
30 KNOT RANGE THURSDAY, EVENTUALLY TRENDING WESTERLY WITH BORDERLINE  
VFR/MVFR CEILINGS.  
 
FOR DTW..LIGHT SNOW SHOWER ACTIVITY CONTINUES TONIGHT WITH SOME IFR  
VISIBILITIES AND GUSTY WSW WINDS. MVFR/VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED WITH  
SOME IMPROVEMENT ON THURSDAY, PLUS ADDITIONAL LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
SHOWERS.  
 
DTW THRESHOLD PROBABILITIES...  
 
* HIGH FOR CEILING 5000 FEET OR LESS TONIGHT, AND MEDIUM THURSDAY.  
 
* LOW FOR WESTERLY CROSSWIND THRESHOLD BEING MET TONIGHT, THEN  
MEDIUM THURSDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
* HIGH FOR PRECIPITATION TYPE AS SNOW TONIGHT AND THURSDAY.  
 
 
   
PREV DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 354 PM EST WED NOV 26 2025  
 
DISCUSSION...  
 
GUSTY WSW WINDS ARE WELL UNDERWAY THIS AFTERNOON ASSOCIATED WITH THE  
STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM TRACKING ACROSS THE STRAITS THIS  
AFTERNOON. THESE WINDS ARE BEING SUPPORTED BY A 50-60 KNOTS LOW  
LEVEL JET SWEEPING AROUND THE LOW AND DIRECTLY OVER SOUTHEAST  
MICHIGAN. WINDS PEAK THIS AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING WITH HIGHEST  
WIND POTENTIAL FROM 5 PM TO ABOUT 11 PM. OCCASIONAL POP TO 50 MPH OR  
GREATER WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE THUMB SHORELINE BEING THE FAVORED  
LOCATION. THE COLD ADVECTION WILL PREVENT MUCH STABILIZATION  
TONIGHT, THOUGH MIXING HEIGHTS DO DECREASE. ELEVATED WINDS GUSTING TO  
30-45 MPH SHOULD HOLD THROUGH MUCH OF TONIGHT. WILL KEEP THE WIND  
ADVISORY IN EFFECT INTO EARLY TOMORROW MORNING, THOUGH THERE WILL BE  
POTENTIAL TO END IT EARLY.  
 
THE OTHER ITEM OF NOTE TODAY AND TONIGHT WILL BE THE TRANSITION TO  
PREDOMINATELY SNOW AS SURFACE TEMPERATURES CONTINUE TO FALL WITH  
BETTER SATURATION WITHIN THE DGZ. THIS WILL BE COINCIDENT WITH STRONG  
DYNAMICS AND THE EXPECTED LAKE MOISTURE FLUX OFF LAKE MICHIGAN (AND  
PARTLY LAKE SUPERIOR) AS WINDS TURN MORE WESTERLY INTO THIS EVENING.  
ANY ACCUMULATION THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THIS AFTERNOON SHOULD HOLD  
TO AROUND A HALF INCH OR LESS AND STAY CONFINED TO GRASSY/ELEVATED  
SURFACES. BETTER SNOW ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL WILL DEVELOP LATER THIS  
EVENING AS SURFACE TEMPERATURES EVENTUALLY DIP TO NEAR FREEZING AND  
EVENTUALLY BELOW WHILE GREATER COVERAGE AND INTENSITY OF LAKE EFFECT  
SNOW SHOWERS ALSO RAMP UP. SNOW SQUALL PARAMETER VALUES WILL BE ON  
THE HIGH THIS EVENING AND TONIGHT, THOUGH LOWER LEVEL INSTABILITY IS  
NOT OVERLY IMPRESSIVE. THE POTENTIAL FOR MORE LOCALIZED MORE INTENSE  
LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS AND THE ELEVATED WINDS WILL BRING CONCERN FOR  
VARIABLE DRIVING CONDITIONS FROM ANY INTENSE LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
SHOWERS THAT CAN DEVELOP. THINKING HAS NOT CHANGED MUCH IN TERMS OF  
SNOW ACCUMULATIONS THROUGH 7 AM TOMORROW MORNING WITH ANYWHERE FROM  
A DUSTING TO 2 INCHES ACROSS SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN. HIGH END OF THESE  
AMOUNTS SHOULD BE MORE LOCALIZED AND TIED TO THE MORE INTENSE LAKE  
EFFECT SHOWERS.  
 
THE STRONGER/LARGER SCALE DYNAMICS BEGIN TO EASE FOR THANKSGIVING AS  
THE LOW LIFTS INTO QUEBEC. HOWEVER, THE COLD THERMAL TROUGH WITH  
HIGH OVERLAKE DELTA TS AND THE PERSISTENT WNW WIND WILL MAINTAIN THE  
LAKE EFFECT REGIME. HI-RES MODELS CONTINUE TO POINT TOWARDS A  
TRANSITION TO MORE FOCUSED LAKE EFFECT BANDS. THE MOST DOMINANT BAND  
APPEARS TO FOCUSED FROM TRAVERSE BAY DOWN INTO NORTHERN BAY COUNTY  
AND THE THUMB. THE 12Z SUITE OF GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO POINT TOWARDS  
A SWATCH OF SNOW ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLY UP TO 4 INCHES OVER THE  
COURSE OF THANKSGIVING DAY ACROSS THE THUMB. THIS WOULD REQUIRE BOTH  
MAINTENANCE AND RESIDENCE TIME OF THAT LAKE EFFECT EXTENSION INTO  
THE THUMB THROUGH THANKSGIVING AFTERNOON AND EVENING. CONFIDENCE  
STILL A LITTLE TOO LOW TO HOIST A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY AT THIS  
TIME, BUT STILL REQUIRES MONITORING FOR POTENTIAL ADVISORY ISSUANCE.  
REMAINDER OF SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN, WILL AGAIN SEE ANYWHERE BETWEEN A  
DUSTING TO 2 INCHES OF POSSIBLE ACCUMULATION WITH EXPECTED  
VARIABILITY OF HIGHER TOTALS BASED ON WHERE MORE DOMINANT AND  
PERSISTENT BANDS SET UP. MODELS POINT TOWARDS ANOTHER MORE PROMINENT  
BAND FOCUSED ALONG THE I-94 CORRIDOR AND POINTS SOUTH GIVEN THE WIND  
TRAJECTORY. WINDS WILL CONTINUE TO BE GUSTY TOMORROW WITH GUSTS  
MOSTLY IN THE 30-40 MPH RANGE THROUGH THE DAY, HOLDING BELOW ADVISORY  
CRITERIA. MID RANGE SNOW SQUALL PARAMETER VALUES (4-7) ACROSS ALL OF  
SOUTHEAST MICHIGAN TOMORROW BRINGS POTENTIAL FOR CONTINUED VARIABLE  
DRIVING CONDITIONS UNDER MORE INTENSE SNOW BANDS WITH RAPID  
FLUCTUATIONS IN VISIBILITY AND POTENTIAL SNOW ACCUMULATING ON  
ROADWAYS. WIND CHILLS TOMORROW MORNING WILL BE DOWN IN THE TEENS AND  
HOLD IN THE LOW-MID 20S DURING THE AFTERNOON.  
 
EARLY FRIDAY MORNING WILL BEGIN TO SEE MORE INTENSE LAKE EFFECT  
BANDS WEAKEN WITH PERHAPS SOME ISOLATED SNOW SHOWERS STILL LINGERING  
DURING PARTS OF THE DAY AS NW WINDS PERSIST IN THE BACKDROP OF  
RISING HEIGHTS. ATTENTION WILL THEN BE ON THE SYSTEM OVER THE  
WEEKEND AS TROUGHING ACROSS THE PLAINS DRIVES A SURFACE LOW PRESSURE  
THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES. ENSEMBLE SUPPORT AND LATEST LONG RANGE  
MODEL TRENDS SHOW INCREASING POTENTIAL FOR SEVERAL INCHES OF  
SNOWFALL THAT WOULD WARRANT WINTER HEADLINES IN THE COMING DAYS.  
CURRENT TIMING STARTS SATURDAY AFTERNOON AND CONTINUES INTO SUNDAY  
MORNING. EVEN COLDER TEMPERATURES WILL FOLLOW THIS SYSTEM WITH HIGH  
TEMPERATURES MONDAY AND TUESDAY DOWN INTO THE MID-UPPER 20S.  
 
MARINE...  
 
RESPECTABLE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY TRACKING OVER THE UPPER  
PENINSULA AT TIME OF DISCUSSION AS ARCTIC AIR BEGINS OVERSPREADING  
THE CENTRAL GREAT LAKES FOLLOWING THIS MORNING'S COLD FRONT. PEAK  
WINDS FOR MOST THE AREA OCCUR LATE THIS EVENING-TONIGHT AS A  
SECONDARY COLD FRONT SWEEPS THROUGH SHIFTING WINDS TO THE WEST (AND  
EVENTUALLY NORTHWEST BY THURSDAY MORNING AS THE LOW PUSHES INTO  
NORTHERN ONTARIO). POSITIONING OF THE LOW CENTER FAVORS THE  
STRONGEST GRADIENT, AND SUBSEQUENT STRONGEST WINDS, TO SET UP OVER  
THE SOUTHERN HALF OF LAKE HURON-INCLUDING THE SAGINAW BAY, AS WELL  
AS THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES. GUSTS OVER THESE WATERS LIKELY REACH 40-  
45KTS TONIGHT. WHILE GALE WARNINGS WENT INTO EFFECT FOR THE NORTHERN  
LAKE HURON WATERS THIS AFTERNOON, WIND GUSTS WILL BE SLOWER TO  
INCREASE OWING TO CLOSER PROXIMITY TO THE LOW CENTER WITH 35KT GALES  
BECOMING LIKELY LATE THIS EVENING FOLLOWING THE SECONDARY COLD  
FRONT. STRONGEST GUSTS, AROUND 40KTS, FOR THIS PORTION OF THE REGION  
OCCUR DAYTIME THURSDAY AS THE GRADIENT BEGINS TO TIGHTEN ON THE  
BACKEDGE OF THE DEPARTING LOW. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS ALREADY IN  
THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING AT TIME OF DISCUSSION PERSIST THROUGH  
THURSDAY RESULTING IN VARIABLE VISIBILITIES INCLUDING POTENTIAL  
WHITEOUT CONDITIONS OVER THE LAKES. NORTHWESTERLY WINDS THURSDAY  
DON'T BEGIN TO WEAKEN UNTIL LATE DAY WITH ENTRY LEVEL GALES STILL  
POSSIBLE FOR MUCH OF THURSDAY NIGHT. PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER THE  
CENTRAL GREAT LAKES FINALLY RELAXES FRIDAY AS THE NORTHERN EDGE OF  
OHIO VALLEY HIGH PRESSURE BRIEFLY CLIPS THE AREA ALLOWING WINDS TO  
DIP BELOW 30KTS.  
 
 
   
DTX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...WIND ADVISORY UNTIL 4 AM EST EARLY THIS MORNING FOR MIZ047>049-  
053>055-060>063-068>070-075-076-082-083.  
 
LAKE HURON...GALE WARNING UNTIL 7 AM EST FRIDAY FOR LHZ361-362.  
 
GALE WARNING UNTIL 10 AM EST FRIDAY FOR LHZ363-421-422-441>443-  
462>464.  
 
LOW WATER ADVISORY UNTIL 10 AM EST THIS MORNING FOR LHZ422.  
 
LAKE ST CLAIR...GALE WARNING UNTIL 4 AM EST FRIDAY FOR LCZ460.  
 
MICHIGAN WATERS OF LAKE ERIE...GALE WARNING UNTIL 4 AM EST FRIDAY FOR LEZ444.  
 
LOW WATER ADVISORY UNTIL 4 AM EST FRIDAY FOR LEZ444.  
 
 
 
 
 
AVIATION.....KGK  
DISCUSSION...AA  
MARINE.......KDK  
 
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