366  
FXUS63 KFGF 180958  
AFDFGF  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND FORKS ND  
358 AM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- WIDESPREAD RAINFALL, HEAVY AT TIMES, OVERSPREADS EASTERN  
NORTH DAKOTA AND MINNESOTA MONDAY EVENING INTO TUESDAY.  
 
- ACCUMULATING SNOW AND GUSTY WINDS WILL BRING WINTER IMPACTS TUESDAY  
NIGHT INTO WEDNESDAY.  
 
- UNCERTAINTY STILL EXISTS IN SEVERITY AND LOCATION OF WINTER  
IMPACTS, WITH MAIN UNCERTAINTY TIED TO STRENGTH AND EVOLUTION  
OF LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM.  
 
- HIGHEST CHANCE TO RECEIVE WINTER STORM IMPACTS (SNOWFALL 6  
INCHES OR MORE) WILL BE DEVILS LAKE REGION WHERE CONFIDENCE IS  
55-80 PERCENT OF WINTER STORM IMPACTS.  
 
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 320 AM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
   
..SYNOPSIS
 
 
ONE UPPER LEVEL WAVE IS OVER IDAHO, NORTHWEST MONTANA AND MOVING  
INTO SOUTHERN ALBERTA. THIS WILL MOVE INTO SOUTHERN INTO EAST  
CENTRAL SASKATCHEWAN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A STRONG 500 MB LOW WAS  
NEAR EL PASO TEXAS AND THIS WAVE WILL MOVE NORTH INTO SOUTHERN  
MN BY 12Z TUE WITH AN ACCOMPANYING SURFACE LOW IN SW MN. AS THIS  
SFC LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES NORTH THRU FAR WESTERN MN INTO SE  
MANITOBA TUES NIGHT, THE UPPER WAVE WITH THIS WILL COMBINE WITH  
THE SASKATCHEWAN UPPER WAVE AND FORM A LARGER UPPER LOW OVER  
NORTHERN ND TUES OVERNIGHT. THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THIS  
SYSTEM WILL PLAY A HUGE ROLE IN PRECIPITATION AMOUNT, TYPE AND  
LOW LEVEL TEMPERATURES.  
   
..WIDESPREAD RAINFALL MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY
 
 
STRONG MOISTURE ADVECTION WILL OCCUR NORTHWARD WITH THIS WAVE  
AND BRING A WIDESPREAD RAIN EVENT TO THE AREA. QPF WITH THIS  
SYSTEM HAS BEEN INCREASING WITH WPC QPF VALUES OVER 1 INCH OVER  
NEARLY ALL OF THE FORECAST AREA WITH POTENTIAL 1.50 INCHES  
WITHIN THE RRV.  
   
..POTENTIAL WINTER IMPACTS AND ASSOCIATED UNCERTAINTY
 
 
THE INTERACTION AND EVENTUAL MERGER OF THE AFOREMENTIONED TWO  
UPPER WAVES BRINGS INHERENT UNCERTAINTY IN THEIR EVOLUTION IN  
PARTICULARLY IN REGARDS TO THE DEGREE OF WRAPAROUND SNOW AND LOW  
LEVEL COLD ADVECTION. THE MAIN FORCING (FRONTOGENETICAL) AND 850  
MB WARM ADVECTION WILL TARGET HEAVY SNOW RATES IN WESTERN  
MANITOBA AND EASTERN SASKATCHEWAN TUESDAY. AS UPPER LOW  
CONSOLIDATES IN NORTH CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST ND TUESDAY NIGHT AND  
MOVES EAST-SOUTHEAST TO NEAR BEMIDJI 18Z WEDNESDAY THE ISSUE  
WILL BE DEGREE OF WRAPAROUND SNOWFALL AND INTENSITY AND ALSO ANY  
MESOSCALE INFLUENCES, AS PORTRAYED BY MOST GUIDANCE IN SHOWING A  
HEAVIER SIGNAL OF QPF (SNOW) IN WESTERN MN JUST EAST OF GRAND  
FORKS TO JUST EAST OF FARGO. THE DEGREE OF COOLING TO TURN RAIN  
TO SNOW TUESDAY NIGHT INTO THE RRV AND MN ALSO IS HIGHLY  
UNCERTAIN. LIKELY TO SEE VARIOUS PRECIP TYPES DUE TO LOCAL  
COOLING WHERE SOME LOCATIONS GO TO SNOW EARLIER THAN SOME.  
PARTICULARLY TRUE WHERE WITH IN THE IMMEDIATE RED RIVER VALLEY  
TEMPS MAY HOLD 1-2 DEGREES HIGHER THAN EAST AND WEST OF THE  
VALLEY RESULTING IN A LOCALIZED LOWER SNOWFALL ACCUMULATION.  
 
THEREFORE RANGES FOR SNOWFALL REMAIN QUITE LARGE WITH 10/90  
PERCENTILES INDICATE LOW END OF 0 SNOW AND HIGH END OF 6-8  
INCHES WITHIN THE RRV AND ADJACENT WESTERN MN.  
 
PROB OF 6 INCHES OF SNOW OR MORE ARE HIGHEST IN DEVILS LAKE  
BASIN AND PROBS OF SUCH ARE IN THE 55-80 PERCENT RANGE FROM WPC  
AND ALSO NBM LEADING TO HIGHER CONFIDENCE IN WINTER STORM WATCH  
ISSUANCE FOR FAR NORTHWEST FCST AREA (BENSON, RAMSEY, TOWNER,  
CAVALIER COUNTIES). CHAT WITH WPC AND BIS INDICATED ENOUGH  
CONFIDENCE FOR A WATCH FROM PARTS OF TUESDAY INTO WED FOR NORTH  
CENTRAL ND AND INTO DVL REGION.  
 
WINDS WILL PLAY A ROLE WITH CHANCES OF SEEING WIND GUSTS 45 MPH  
OR HIGHER 40-60 PERCENT DEVILS LAKE TO COOPERSTOWN TO VALLEY  
CITY AREA. THIS WIND COMBINED WITH FALLING SNOW WILL CAUSE  
REDUCED VSBYS.  
 
WAY TOO UNCERTAIN IN REGARDS TO PTYPE AND SNOW AMOUNTS OUTSIDE  
OF THE DVL BASIN. INITIAL THOUGHTS ARE ADVISORY LIKELY TO BE  
NEEDED, BUT THAT CAN WAIT TIL CONFIDENCE HAS INCREASED FOR WHAT  
LOCATIONS.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z TUESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1133 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
VFR CONDITIONS FOR ALL BUT THE TAIL END OF THE TAF PERIOD, AS WE  
WILL SEE INCREASING CLOUDS BUT ANY MVFR CEILINGS AND PRECIP WILL  
HOLD OFF UNTIL LATER TOMORROW EVENING. SOME GUIDANCE WAS  
CALLING FOR VIS AT KFAR GOING DOWN TO 1 1/2SM DUE TO THE RAIN  
BUT WASN'T CONFIDENT ENOUGH TO GO THAT LOW QUITE YET SO KEPT IT  
IN THE 3-5SM RANGE. WINDS WILL SHIFT FROM A SOUTHERLY DIRECTION  
TO MORE SOUTHEASTERLY TO EASTERLY, BUT WILL REMAIN BELOW 12 KTS  
AT MOST SITES.  
 

 
   
FGF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
ND...WINTER STORM WATCH FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY  
AFTERNOON FOR NDZ006-007-014-015.  
MN...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...RIDDLE  
AVIATION...JR  
 
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