909  
FXUS63 KFGF 191004  
AFDFGF  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND FORKS ND  
404 AM CST TUE NOV 19 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- HEAVIEST RAINFALL END THIS MORNING.  
 
- CHANGE OVER FROM RAIN TO SNOW REMAINS UNCERTAIN AS COLDER AIR  
MOVES IN FROM THE WEST. ACCUMULATING SNOW AND GUSTY WINDS WILL  
BRING WINTER IMPACTS LATE TODAY INTO WEDNESDAY.  
 
- UNCERTAINTY STILL EXISTS IN THE SEVERITY AND LOCATION OF WINTER  
IMPACTS, WITH THE MAIN UNCERTAINTY TIED TO THE STRENGTH AND  
TRACK OF THE SYSTEM.  
 
- HIGHEST CHANCES TO RECEIVE WINTER STORM IMPACTS ARE STILL OVER  
THE DEVILS LAKE REGION WHERE PROBABILITIES OF 6 INCHES OF MORE  
IS 70 PERCENT. THUS WARNING ISSUED THERE AS CHANGEOVER TO SNOW  
FASTEST THERE. FARTHER EAST CONFIDENCE IN CHANGEOVER TIMING  
AND IMPACTS ARE LESS UNCERTAIN  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 342 AM CST TUE NOV 19 2024  
   
..SYNOPSIS
 
 
500 MB SHORT WAVE MOVING QUICKLY NORTH INTO CENTRAL MN AT 09Z.  
THIS WAS NEAR EL PASO 24 HOURS AGO. RAIN ON THE NORTH AND WEST  
SIDE OF THIS ADVANCING SHORT WAVE IS MOVING THRU THE FORECAST  
AREA. UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM MOVES NORTH QUICKLY WITH DRIER AIR  
MOVING INTO SE ND AND WC MN MIDDAY AND AFTN LIKELY ENDING THE  
RAIN. A SECOND UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM GIVING SNOW TO MUCH OF  
SASKATCHEWAN AT 09Z WILL MERGE WITH THE NORTHWARD MOVING SHORT  
WAVE AND BY THIS AFTN A LARGER UPPER LOW CIRCULATION WILL BE  
PRESENT OVER NORTHERN ND AND SOUTHERN MANITOBA. TONIGHT THIS  
CIRCULATION WILL BE NEAR THE MN/ND/MB BORDER AND TRACK SOUTHEAST  
WEDNESDAY INTO CENTRAL MN BY DAYS END.  
   
.,TODAY-WEDNESDAY
 
 
STILL CONSIDERABLE UNCERTAINITY IN HOW THIS ALL PLAYS OUT THE  
NEXT 24-36 HOURS. AS UPPER LEVEL SYSTEM MOVES INTO SOUTHEAST  
MANITOBA MIDDAY DRIER AIR WILL WORK INTO SE ND/WC MN AND SHOULD  
END THE RAIN. AS THIS SYSTEM MERGES WITH SYSTEM IN SASKATCHEWAN  
TO FORM LARGER UPPER LOW, THE LOCATION OF THIS UPPER LOW WILL BE  
CRITICAL IN THE DEGREE OF MOISTURE WRAPPING BACK SOUTH AND EAST  
AROUND IT TONIGHT. ALSO THE DEGREE OF COOLING FROM THE WEST THIS  
AFTN AND NIGHT WILL DETERMINE THE CHANGEOVER TO SNOW AND EXPECT  
1-2 DEGREES WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE. EXPECTATION IS FOR RAIN  
TO SNOW INTO DEVILS LAKE AREA, LANGDON ESPECIALLY LATE  
MORNING/EARLY AFTN...AND THEN PROGRESSING EASTWARD INTO THE RRV  
AND WESTERN MN THIS EVENING/TONIGHT. I COULD SEE AREAS EAST AND  
WEST OF THE IMMEDIATE VALLEY COOLING FASTER THAN THE IMMEDIATE  
LOCATIONS ALONG THE RED RIVER AS SOIL TEMPS AND OUR BARE FIELD  
WITH DIRT KEEP TEMPS A TAD WARMER FOR A BIT LONGER THAN  
EAST/WEST OF THE IMMEDIATE VALLEY. ALSO POSITION OF UPPER LOW  
NEAR THE ND/MN/MB BORDER TONIGHT WILL KEEP THE WARMEST AIR RIGHT  
NEAR IT KEEPING MORE RAIN CHANCE VS SNOW IN HALLOCK/ROSEAU THIS  
EVENING BEFORE COLDER AIR MOVES IN LATE TONIGHT.  
 
WEDNESDAY WILL SEE UPPER LOW MOVE SOUTHEAST. GLOBAL AND SHORT  
TERM MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW AN ENHANCED AREA OF PRECIPITATION  
NEAR THE EAST EDGE OF THE RED RIVER VALLEY AND MODELS DO  
INDICATE TRANSITORY BANDS OF 700 MB FRONTOGENESIS TO THE WEST OF  
THE SOUTHEAST MOVING UPPER LOW.  
 
BASED ON WPC QPF AND SLIGHTLY ADJUSTED SNOW TO LIQUID RATIOS  
(BLEND OF NBM AND WPC) FORECAST SNOWFALL OF 5-8 DEVILS LAKE,  
LANGDON AREAS WARRANTS A WARNING TO BE ISSUED AT THIS TIME AS  
CHANGE OVER MAY OCCUR BEFORE NOON. SNOWBAND PROBABILITY TRACKER  
PROTYPE PAGE FROM WPC INDICATES POTENTIAL BANDED SNOW THIS  
AFTN/EVE IN THE AREA FROM LANGDON AND THE TURTLE MOUNTAINS INTO  
SW MANITOBA WITH THIS LASTING INTO TONIGHT. HENCE HIGHER  
SNOWFALL TOTALS THAT AREA.  
 
FARTHER EAST AND SOUTH....UNCERTAINITY IN CHANGE OVER TIMING AND  
AMOUNTS REMAIN HIGH ENOUGH SO THAT NO HEADLINES WERE ISSUED THIS  
SHIFT. LIKELY ADVISORY BUT SOME CHANCE OF A FEW 6 INCH SNOWFALL  
IN PARTS OF WESTERN MN IF SOME SHORT TERM MODELS ARE RIGHT. PLUS  
IMPACTS ARE PAST 6 PM TODAY...AND COLLAB WITH MPX/ABR INDICATE  
SIMILAR THINKING TO HOLD OFF WINTER HEADLINES FOR RRV AND  
WESTERN MN TIL LATER.  
 
WIND GUSTS DO LOOK A TAD LOWER THAN SHOWN YESTERDAY....AS FOCUS  
OF 50-55 MPH WINDS ARE JUST WEST AND SOUTHWEST OF THE FCST AREA  
MORE FROM WESTERN ND INTO CENTRAL AND SOUTHEAST SD. WIND  
ADVISORY LEVELS MAY BE REACHED IN SE ND ESP WEDNESDAY BUT WITH  
POSSIBLE WINTRY IMPACTS WOULD PREFER TO WAIT TO SEE WHICH ONE IS  
MORE DOMINATE BEFORE ISSUING.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z WEDNESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1140 PM CST MON NOV 18 2024  
 
RAIN AND MVFR STRATUS CONTINUES TO SPREAD NORTHWARD, WITH  
VISIBILITIES IN MODERATE RATE BELOW 6SM AT TIMES. THERE IS  
STILL A STRONG SIGNAL FOR IFR CEILINGS TO DEVELOP TONIGHT AND  
PERSIST THROUGH AT LEAST MIDDAY AS LOW LEVEL MOISTURE INCREASES  
AND HIGH RESOLUTION MODELS STILL SHOW IFR VIS AT TIMES POSSIBLY  
DUE TO ADDITIONAL LIGHT FOG DEVELOPMENT WITH RAIN. RAIN SNOW  
TRANSITION MAY OCCUR BY LATE TUESDAY MORNING AT KDVL, HOWEVER  
THERE MAY BE A LULL IN PRECIPITATION (OR PRECIP RATES) DURING  
THE AFTERNOON BEFORE A SECONDARY REGION OF PRECIPITATION AND  
RAIN TO SNOW TRANSITION OCCURS TUESDAY EVENING ACROSS THE  
REGION. WINDS EVENTUALLY SHIFT TO THE WEST AND INCREASE AS THE  
LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM EVOLVES OVER OUR REGION AND THIS COULD  
RESULT IN BLOWING SNOW WHILE NEW SNOW IS FALLING (CHANCE BETTER  
AFTER 00Z).  
 

 
   
FGF WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
ND...WINTER STORM WARNING FROM NOON TODAY TO 6 PM CST WEDNESDAY FOR  
NDZ006-007-014-015.  
WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM 3 PM THIS AFTERNOON TO 6 PM CST  
WEDNESDAY FOR NDZ024-026-028-054.  
MN...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...RIDDLE  
AVIATION...DJR  
 
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