033  
FXUS63 KGRR 030528  
AFDGRR  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI  
1228 AM EST MON FEB 3 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- AREAS OF FOG TONIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING  
 
- LIGHT MIX NEAR U.S. 10 MONDAY  
 
- WINTRY MIX WEDNESDAY NIGHT; BREEZY THURSDAY  
 

 
   
UPDATE
 
 
ISSUED AT 727 PM EST SUN FEB 2 2025  
 
WE DECIDED TO HOIST A DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR TONIGHT AND THROUGH  
NOON (17Z) ON MONDAY.  
 
VISIBILITIES ARE MOSTLY BELOW 2 MILES ACROSS THE AREA, WITH QUITE  
A FEW SITES SITTING AT 1/2 MILE OR LESS ALREADY THIS EVENING. WITH  
THE LOSS OF DAYLIGHT, WINDS UNDER 5 MPH, AND DEW POINTS ONLY  
RISING THROUGH THE NIGHT, COMBINED WITH THE NEW SNOWPACK, FOG WILL  
ONLY BECOME MORE DENSE OVERNIGHT.  
 
ANOTHER CONCERN AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, IS  
POSSIBLE BLACK ICE FORMATION NORTH OF INTERSTATE 96 OVERNIGHT.  
ROAD TEMPS ARE MAINLY AT OR BELOW FREEZING FOR THOSE AREAS.  
TEMPERATURES ARE ALREADY BELOW FREEZING, BUT SHOULD RISE A LITTLE  
OVERNIGHT. WE DID MENTION IT IN THE DENSE FOG ADVISORY PRODUCT,  
AND WILL MONITOR TO SEE IF ANY OTHER ACTIONS WILL BE NEEDED FOR  
THAT.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 344 PM EST SUN FEB 2 2025  
 
- AREAS OF FOG TONIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING  
 
A FRESH 1-2" WET SNOW COVER PUT DOWN BY THIS MORNING'S QUICK-  
HITTING SYSTEM IS IN PLACE AND TEMPS/DEW POINTS WILL CONTINUE TO  
SLOWLY RISE TONIGHT. WITH LIGHT WINDS EXPECTED THE RESULT WILL BE  
FOR AREAS TO FOG TO FORM, SOME OF WHICH COULD BECOME DENSE.  
VISIBILITIES BELOW ONE HALF MILE ARE ALREADY OCCURRING NEAR THE  
MI/IN BORDER. WE MAY NEED TO CONSIDER A DENSE FOG ADVISORY FOR  
THE MONDAY MORNING COMMUTE TIME DEPENDING ON TRENDS LATER TONIGHT.  
SOME LOCATIONS NORTH OF ABOUT M-46 MAY STAY JUST COLD ENOUGH FOR  
FREEZING FOG/BLACK ICE TO EVEN OCCUR TONIGHT.  
 
- LIGHT MIX NEAR U.S. 10 MONDAY  
 
ELONGATED BUT NARROW BAND OF ACCUMULATING, FGEN-FORCED SNOW ALONG  
A TIGHT MID LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE OVER THE NORTH CENTRAL U.S.  
LOOKS TO STAY JUST NORTH OF THE GRR CWFA AREA MONDAY. HOWEVER ON  
THE SOUTHERN FLANK OF THAT BAND THERE MAY BE A BIT OF LIGHT MIXED  
PRECIPITATION NEAR THE U.S. 10 CORRIDOR. FORECAST SOUNDINGS  
INDICATE THAT SNOW AND RAIN (OR A MIX THEREOF) ARE EQUALLY  
POSSIBLE IN THIS AREA AND THERE IS ALSO A LOW RISK FOR A PERIOD OF  
LIGHT FREEZING RAIN IF/WHERE TEMPS STAY COLD ENOUGH SUCH AS  
AROUND CLARE/HARRISON.  
 
- WINTRY MIX WEDNESDAY NIGHT; BREEZY THURSDAY  
 
SPECIFIC DETAILS OF THE MIDWEEK SYSTEM ARE STILL NOT VERY CLEAR.  
THIS SYSTEM IS AIDED BY A COUPLED JET STRUCTURE ALOFT, WITH A 150  
KT PACIFIC JET STRETCHING EAST FROM CA PROVIDING LFQ LIFT WHILE  
ANOTHER 120KT JET SITUATED FROM NORTH OF LAKE SUPERIOR TO NEW  
ENGLAND PROVIDES COINCIDENT RRQ LIFT.  
 
MODELS/ENSEMBLES HAVE VARYING SOLUTIONS OF HOW THIS ALL PLAYS  
OUT, WITH ONE CAMP (MAINLY THE GFS/GEFS) KEEPING THE HEAVIER QPF  
DOWN THROUGH THE OHIO VALLEY AND A COLDER SOLUTION OVER MI WITH  
MORE OF A LIGHT SNOW THREAT (AND SOME RISK OF FREEZING RAIN IN THE  
SOUTH). ANOTHER CAMP (MAINLY THE ECWMF/ECE) HAS A MORE NRN SFC  
LOW TRACK WHICH PULLS THE BETTER WAA QPF FARTHER NORTH WITH A  
STRONGER RISK OF FREEZING RAIN AS THE PREDOMINANT P-TYPE.  
 
OBVIOUSLY THE EC SOLUTION WOULD BE MORE IMPACTFUL ESPECIALLY IF  
THE PRECIP IS CONVECTIVE AS SUGGESTED BY ITS MUCAPE PROGS AND IF  
IT IS MOSTLY FREEZING RAIN. THE PRIMARY TIME OF CONCERN LOOKS TO  
BE LATE WED AFTERNOON AND WED EVENING WHEN THE LOW LEVEL JET WILL  
BE AIMED AT THE AREA. MID LEVEL DRY SLOT THEN PUNCHES IN QUICKLY  
LATE WED NIGHT/EARLY THURSDAY BRINGING AN ABRUPT DIMINISHING TREND  
TO THE PRECIP. THE EC SOLUTION ALSO SUPPORTS SOME FAIRLY STRONG  
WIND GUSTS IN THE DRY SLOT ON THURSDAY, POSSIBLY EXCEEDING 40/45  
MPH PER ENSEMBLE MEANS.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z TUESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1228 AM EST MON FEB 3 2025  
 
ONGOING MVFR TO IFR CONDITIONS WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH TOWARD 12Z  
TO LIFR WITH FOG REDUCING VISIBILITIES TO 1/4 SM AND CEILINGS  
BELOW 500 FEET. WINDS WILL REMAIN LIGHT AND VARIABLE INTO THE  
MORNING WITH LOW PRESSURE MOVING OVER THE AREA. WINDS WILL PICK UP  
WITH VISIBILITIES AND CEILINGS IMPROVING AS THE LOW SHIFTS EAST  
THIS EVENING.  
 

 
   
GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
MI...DENSE FOG ADVISORY UNTIL NOON EST TODAY FOR MIZ037>040-043>046-  
050>052-056>059-064>067-071>074.  
MARINE...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
UPDATE...NJJ  
DISCUSSION...MEADE  
AVIATION...RAH  
 
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