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FXUS63 KGRR 162328  
AFDGRR  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI  
728 PM EDT THU OCT 16 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- LIGHT RAIN TONIGHT AND TOMORROW  
 
- WET AND WINDY WEATHER AHEAD  
 
- MORE UNSETTLED WEATHER NEXT WEEK  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 330 PM EDT THU OCT 16 2025  
 
- LIGHT RAIN TONIGHT AND TOMORROW  
 
AN UPPER LEVEL RIDGE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD AND MOVE OVER THE  
GREAT LAKES REGION THROUGH TOMORROW. HOWEVER, MID LEVEL MOISTURE  
STEMMING FROM AN INFILTRATING LOW WILL BRING A SHORT SAVE TROUGH,  
THROUGH THE MID AND LOWER LEVELS. THIS WILL BRING ENOUGH  
INSTABILITY THAT SHOULD ALLOW FOR ISOLATE SHOWERS ALONG AND NORTH  
OR THE I 96 CORRIDOR.  
WARM AIR ADVECTION WILL CONTINUE OUT AHEAD OF THE APPROACHING  
LOW. THIS WILL KEEP TEMPERATURES IN THE UPPER 60S TO LOW 70S. THAT  
IS AROUND 10 DEGREES ABOVE NORMAL.  
THERE SHOULD BE A BREAK IN PRECIPITATION FRIDAY AFTERNOON.  
HOWEVER THAT BREAK IN RAIN WILL BE SHORT LIVED.  
 
- WET AND WINDY WEATHER AHEAD  
 
THE TREND IS YOUR FRIEND AND THIS CASE IS NOT THE EXCEPTION TO  
THE RULE. LATEST MODELS CONTINUE TO SHOW A COLD FRONT APPROACHING  
FROM THE WEST, MOVING SLOWLY TO THE EAST. AS IT MOVES ACROSS THE  
GREAT LAKES IT WILL DRAPE ACROSS MICHIGAN FROM THE NORTHEAST TO  
THE SOUTHWEST BEGINNING EARLY SATURDAY MORNING. CAPE VALUES REMAIN  
FAIRLY LOW, BUT CAN'T RULE OUT THUNDER ALONG THE LEADING EDGE OF  
THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY SATURDAY. THE BIGGEST AREA OF MOISTURE HAS  
SHIFTED TO THE EAST AND SOUTH. THE FRONT SHOULD STALL AS THE RIDGE  
SLOWLY SHIFT EASTWARD WHICH WILL ALLOW PERIODS OF SHOWERS  
SATURDAY.  
THE HEAVIEST RAIN SHOWERS WILL MOVE THROUGH THE AREA SATURDAY  
NIGHT INTO SUNDAY, ESPECIALLY THROUGH SOUTHERN LOWER MICHIGAN. THE  
LOW CONTINUES TO TRACK THROUGH THE STATE, BRINGING WET AND WINDY  
WEATHER THROUGH SUNDAY. TWO DAY TOTALS HAVE QPF UPWARDS OF 1 TO 2  
INCHES, HOWEVER THAT IS OVER A 48 HOUR PERIOD. HEAVIEST RAIN IS  
MOST LIKELY MAINLY ALONG THE LAKE SHORE AND ALONG A SWATH ALONG  
THE I 69 CORRIDOR.  
WHILE THE MOISTURE, TEMPERATURE BOUNDARIES WILL ALLOW FOR GUSTY  
WINDS THROUGH THIS PERIOD. SATURDAY SHOULD HAVE GUSTY UPWARDS OF  
30 MPH. SUNDAY SHOULD HAVE A STRONGER GRADIENT WITH WIND GUSTS  
UPWARDS OF 40 MPH POSSIBLE SUNDAY AND MONDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
- MORE UNSETTLED WEATHER NEXT WEEK  
 
WITH THE LARGE UPPER LEVEL LOW MOVING SLOWLY ALONG THE UPPER  
GREAT LAKES REGION, SHORT WAVES AND COLD NORTHWESTERLY FLOW SHOULD  
BRING PERIODS OF SHOWERS THROUGH THE AREA THROUGH MID NEXT WEEK.  
THIS WILL BRING TEMPERATURES BACK TO AROUND NORMAL, THOUGH LOWS  
SHOULD REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z SATURDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 728 PM EDT THU OCT 16 2025  
 
VFR CONDITIONS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY AFTERNOON. THERE IS A  
SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT WHICH SHOULD END BEFORE  
12Z. WINDS WILL BE LIGHT AND VARIABLE TONIGHT AND PICK UP FROM THE  
SOUTH DURING THE MORNING WITH SOME GUSTS TO 20 KNOTS IN THE  
AFTERNOON POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY AT MKG.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
ISSUED AT 331 PM EDT THU OCT 16 2025  
 
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY CONDITIONS EXPECTED FRIDAY AND SATURDAY.  
GALES POSSIBLE ON SUNDAY.  
 
HIGH PRESSURE OVER THE REGION THURSDAY WILL DEPART TO THE EAST, AND  
THE GRADIENT IN PRESSURE BETWEEN THE HIGH AND A LOW OVER MANITOBA /  
NORTHWEST ONTARIO WILL DRIVE STRENGTHENING SOUTHERLY WINDS OVER THE  
LAKE ON FRIDAY. 15 TO 25 KNOT WINDS WITH GUSTS TO 30 KNOTS ARE  
EXPECTED, WITH WAVES 6 TO 10 FEET IN THE NEARSHORE, THE BRUNT OF  
WHICH WILL BE FELT FROM GRAND HAVEN TOWARD MANISTEE. HAZARDOUS WINDS  
AND WAVES WILL PERSIST THROUGH SATURDAY, GRADUALLY BUT NOT  
COMPLETELY SUBSIDING BY EVENING.  
 
A MORE CLASSIC AUTUMN LOW-PRESSURE SYSTEM DEEPENING OVER THE GREAT  
LAKES IS LIKELY FOR SUNDAY. AS MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS DISCUSSION,  
THE ATMOSPHERIC DISTURBANCE THAT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS IS  
STILL OUT IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION. SO THERE ARE STILL SOME  
DETAILS TO SHORE UP WITH THE STRENGTH AND TRACK OF THE LOW, WHICH  
WILL AFFECT THE DIRECTION AND STRENGTH OF THE WINDS OVER LAKE  
MICHIGAN. THE ENSEMBLE AVERAGE TRACK OF THE LOW TAKES IT FROM  
SOUTHERN MICHIGAN TO LAKE HURON SUNDAY MORNING, GIVING LAKE MICHIGAN  
NORTHWEST WINDS WITHIN A STRONG PRESSURE GRADIENT BETWEEN THE LOW  
AND THE HIGH PRESSURE RIDGE QUICKLY ARRIVING ON ITS HEELS. LAST  
NIGHT'S RUN OF THE EUROPEAN ENSEMBLES RESULTED IN ABOUT 75 TO 80  
PERCENT OF MEMBERS EXPRESSING GALES OVER THE SOUTHERN MID-LAKE BUOY,  
AND ABOUT 20 PERCENT WITH PEAK GUSTS AT STORM FORCE. TODAY'S RUN  
LOOKS SIMILAR. THIS ENSEMBLE SYSTEM CAN BE UNDERDISPERSIVE WITH ITS  
SOLUTION ENVELOPE AND CAN SOMETIMES MAKE US OVERCONFIDENT, BUT  
UNLESS THE FORECAST SHIFTS SIGNIFICANTLY, A GALE WATCH WILL PROBABLY  
BE POSTED SOON FOR SUNDAY.AY WITH WAVES THAT WILL LIKELY PEAK IN THE  
12-15 FOOT RANGE.  
 
 
   
GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 5 AM FRIDAY TO 8 PM EDT SATURDAY FOR  
LMZ844>849.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...CERU  
AVIATION...OSTUNO  
MARINE...CAS  
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