787  
FXUS63 KGRR 071737  
AFDGRR  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI  
1237 PM EST FRI NOV 7 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- RAIN WITH SOME THUNDERSTORMS THIS MORNING  
 
- RAIN CHANGING TO SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT  
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 249 AM EST FRI NOV 7 2025  
 
- RAIN WITH SOME THUNDERSTORMS THIS MORNING  
 
CURRENT RADAR AND SATELLITE SHOW A BAND OF PRECIPITATION ENTERING  
WESTERN LOWER MI FROM LAKE MICHIGAN. THERE HAS BEEN SOME LIGHTNING  
WITH THIS ACTIVITY IN THE VICINITY OF THE SABLE POINTS AMIDST THE  
COMBINED EFFECTS OF DESTABILIZATION FROM STRONG LOW LEVEL MOIST  
TRANSPORT AND MESOSCALE ASCENT AHEAD OF A TIGHT UPPER PV MAX  
CROSSING WI PER WATER VAPOR IMAGERY. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE  
SPC MESOANALYSIS SEEMS TO BE HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH ASSESSING THE  
CONDITIONAL INSTABILITY GIVEN MUCAPE PROGS ARE LESS THAN 100 J PER  
KG IN AREAS WHERE LIGHTNING HAS BEEN OBSERVED. REGARDLESS, THIS  
BAND OF PRECIPITATION WILL QUICKLY TRAVERSE THE FORECAST AREA  
EARLY TODAY, YIELDING DRY CONDITIONS BY THIS AFTERNOON.  
 
- RAIN CHANGING TO SNOW SATURDAY NIGHT  
 
SNOW IS EXPECTED TO FINALLY ARRIVE SATURDAY NIGHT WITH AN UPPER PV  
MAXIMUM AND ATTENDANT SURFACE LOW CROSSING IL/IN INTO THE OH VALLEY  
REGION. A DEEP LAYER OF ISENTROPIC ASCENT JUST POLEWARD OF THE SURFACE  
LOW TRACK WILL BE IN PLACE WITH GREATEST ACCUMULATIONS...OF CHIEFLY  
1 TO 2 INCHES...ALONG OR JUST SOUTH OF A KALAMAZOO TO LANSING LINE.  
MOST ACCUMULATIONS WOULD OCCUR BETWEEN MIDNIGHT AND SUNRISE SUNDAY.  
 
THIS AREA AND MAGNITUDE ARE BOTH SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND WILL BE MODERATED  
BY THE LOW TRACK AND HOW QUICKLY TEMPERATURES COOL. THE SNOW WILL BE  
QUITE WET AND SLOPPY BASED ON FORECAST SOUNDINGS THAT INDICATE THE  
STRONGEST ISENTROPIC ASCENT WILL BE CONCENTRATED UNDERNEATH THE DGZ  
AND NEAR SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL ALSO BE HOVERING AROUND FREEZING.  
AS NOTED IN PREVIOUS DISCUSSIONS, THERE IS SOME QUESTION REGARDING  
ACCUMULATION EFFICIENCY OVER PAVEMENT GIVEN THAT SURFACE TEMPERATURES  
WILL INITIALLY BE WARM. AS ALSO NOTED PREVIOUSLY, SOME IMPACTS  
SUNDAY MORNING ARE NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION IN TERMS OF SLIPPERY  
OVERPASSES AND PERHAPS POWER INTERRUPTIONS FROM WET SNOW WEIGHING  
DOWN BRANCHES STILL CONTAINING LEAVES.  
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW LATE SUNDAY INTO MONDAY  
 
SNOW WILL BE MUCH FLUFFIER BY SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY MORNING AS WE  
ENTER A LAKE EFFECT REGIME THANKS TO A REINFORCING UPPER TROUGH WITH  
EVEN COLDER AIR. NORTH-NORTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL KEEP GREATEST  
ACCUMULATIONS TIED TO FAR SOUTHWEST LOWER MI INCLUDING VAN BUREN AND  
WESTERN ALLEGAN COUNTIES AND THE SABLE POINTS LASTING WELL INTO AND  
BEYOND THE MONDAY MORNING COMMUTE. EXPERIMENTAL NBM V5.0 GUIDANCE  
FURTHER SUGGESTS THE SABLE POINTS MAY SEE THE GREATEST ACCUMULATIONS  
THANKS TO PARTICULARLY FAVORABLE CONDITIONING OFF LAKE SUPERIOR.  
TRAVEL IMPACTS COULD BE MORE OF AN ISSUE WITH LOW TEMPERATURES  
MONDAY MORNING REACHING THE LOWER 20S OR COLDER.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z SATURDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1237 PM EST FRI NOV 7 2025  
 
SATELLITE SHOWS THE STATUS DECK ERODING NEAR THE LAKE MICHIGAN  
SHORELINE WITH MKG ALREADY REACHING VFR CONDITIONS. MVFR CEILINGS  
WILL BECOME VFR FROM WEST TO EAST OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS AS THIS  
CLEARING MOVES EASTWARD. CEILINGS SCATTER OUT FOR A BRIEF TIME  
BEFORE LAKE EFFECT CLOUD DEVELOPMENT BEGINS OVERNIGHT, CONTINUING  
INTO SATURDAY. A LOW CHANCE OF SHOWERS EXISTS THIS EVENING AT MKG  
WITH THE MAIN CONCERN BEING BRIEF PERIODS OF MVFR CIGS IN ANY  
SHOWERS. GUSTS TO 25 KNOTS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THIS EVENING  
BEFORE WINDS DIMINISH, VEERING NORTHEASTERLY BY SATURDAY MORNING.  
 
 
   
MARINE  
 
ISSUED AT 249 AM EST FRI NOV 7 2025  
 
NO CHANGES TO PREVIOUS THINKING. WILL KEEP THE GALE WARNING IN  
EFFECT AND THIS WILL TRANSITION TO A SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY LATER  
TODAY.  
 
 
   
GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 6 AM EST SATURDAY FOR LMZ844>849.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...TJT  
AVIATION...THOMAS  
MARINE...TJT  
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