737  
FXUS63 KGRR 091142  
AFDGRR  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAND RAPIDS MI  
642 AM EST SUN NOV 9 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- SYNOPTIC SNOW MAINLY SOUTH OF I-96 THIS MORNING  
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW NORTHWEST THIS MORNING AND TODAY  
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW TONIGHT EAST OF US-127  
 
- COLD MONDAY MORNING, ADDITIONAL LAKE EFFECT INTO MONDAY NIGHT  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 311 AM EST SUN NOV 9 2025  
 
- SYNOPTIC SNOW MAINLY SOUTH OF I-96 THIS MORNING  
 
THE CHANGEOVER TO SNOW WAS QUICKER THAN ANTICIPATED. HOWEVER, RADAR  
CURRENTLY INDICATES DECREASING REFLECTIVITIES, SUGGESTING THAT LOWER  
TROPOSPHERIC FRONTOGENETIC FORCING ORIGINALLY JUST SOUTH OF I-96  
IS WEAKENING AS IT DRIFTS NORTH. MIDOT WEBCAMS INDICATE THAT ROADS  
ARE WET AND RWIS DATA SHOW ROAD SURFACE TEMPERATURES IN THE LOWER  
TO MID 30S AREAWIDE. HENCE, TRAVEL IMPACTS ARE NOT ANTICIPATED.  
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW NORTHWEST THIS MORNING AND TODAY  
 
AS NOTED PREVIOUSLY, THE MAIN AREA OF CONCERN IS MASON/OCEANA  
COUNTIES, WHERE A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IS IN EFFECT. GRB RADAR  
CURRENTLY SHOWS A DEVELOPING MESOLOW OVER LAKE MICHIGAN NORTHWEST  
OF LUDINGTON. THIS MESOLOW EVEN HAS A WELL DEFINED EYE TO IT,  
INDICATING SIGNIFICANT LATENT HEAT RELEASE WITH CONVECTIVE LAKE  
EFFECT SNOW (LES) BAND. THIS SUPPORTS THE NOTION OF VERY  
SIGNIFICANT LAKE INDUCED CONDITIONAL INSTABILITY SUPPORTIVE OF  
INTENSE CONVECTIVE SNOWFALL...AND EVEN PERHAPS THUNDERSNOW LATER  
TODAY INTO TONIGHT. THE 09/06Z HRRR PICKS UP ON THIS MESOLOW AND  
USES IT TO DROP A BURST OF SNOW THAT CLIPS WESTERN MASON/OCEANA  
COUNTIES. RADAR CURRENTLY SUGGESTS THE MESOLOW AND BURST OF SNOW  
MAY STAY A BIT FURTHER OFFSHORE THAN THE MODELS ADVERTISE, BUT  
THAT COULD CHANGE. WITH THE PASSAGE OF THE MESOLOW, THE DOMINANT  
LES BAND WILL LIKELY STAY EVEN FARTHER OFFSHORE FOR QUITE A WHILE.  
HOWEVER, GUIDANCE SHOWS THIS BAND MAKING ANOTHER PUSH INLAND LATE  
MONDAY MORNING WITH ADDITIONAL SIGNIFICANT SNOWFALL. THIS IS  
BEYOND THE VALID TIME OF THE ADVISORY AND THUS THE ADVISORY MAY  
HAVE TO BE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.  
 
- LAKE EFFECT SNOW TONIGHT EAST OF US-127  
 
WE CONTINUE TO SEE A SIGNAL FOR LES OFF SAGINAW BAY EARLY TONIGHT  
THAT COULD DROP A RELATIVELY QUICK 4 INCHES OR SO NORTH OF ST JOHNS  
IN THE ALMA VICINITY. AIR TEMPERATURES WILL BE DROPPING INTO THE LOW  
20S AROUND THE TIME THIS OCCURS, SO ACCUMULATING SNOW ON ROADWAYS  
SEEMS PLAUSIBLE. AS NOTED PREVIOUSLY, THIS IS A BORDERLINE  
ADVISORY SCENARIO AFFECTING A RELATIVELY SMALL PART OF OUR CWA.  
WILL LET THE DAY SHIFT ASSESS WITH THE LATEST SUITE OF AVAILABLE  
CAM GUIDANCE.  
 
- COLD MONDAY MORNING, ADDITIONAL LAKE EFFECT INTO MONDAY NIGHT  
 
MONDAY MORNING TEMPERATURES WILL RANGE FROM THE UPPER TEENS TO  
LOWER 20S, WHICH WOULD MAKE ROADWAYS BETTER ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE  
ACCUMULATING SNOW. THE BEST CHANCES FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW AROUND  
THIS TIME WOULD BE IN MASON/OCEANA COUNTIES, WITH LIGHTER  
ACCUMULATION ALSO POSSIBLE SOUTHEAST OF A SOUTH HAVEN TO MOUNT  
PLEASANT LINE.  
 
NEWEST GUIDANCE, INCLUDING THE 09/06Z HRRR, INDICATES A SECOND  
ROUND OF LES MONDAY INTO MONDAY NIGHT SETTING UP OVER SOUTHWEST  
LOWER MI IN RESPONSE TO AN UPPER PV LOBE TRAILING THE MAIN UPPER  
LOW. AN ADVISORY WILL PROBABLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THE VAN  
BUREN AND ALLEGAN COUNTY AREA IF CURRENT TRENDS HOLD.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /12Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z MONDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 642 AM EST SUN NOV 9 2025  
 
KEY CHANGES:  
- INTRODUCED EARLY PERIOD OF IFR/FUEL ALTERNATE MVFR CEILINGS  
- ADDED EARLY IFR VIS RESTRICTIONS IN -SN FOR SOUTHERN TERMINALS  
 
RADAR INDICATES FRONTOGENETICALLY FORCED SNOW EXTENDING FROM THE  
AZO TO LAN TERMINAL AS OF 1130 UTC WITH AN ADDITIONAL BAND OF SNOW  
IN THE VICINITY OF GRR. THIS ACTIVITY IS EXPECTED TO SHIFT EAST  
CAUSING BRIEF IFR CEILING/VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS IN SNOW AT THE  
LAN-JXN-BTL TERMINALS EARLY THIS MORNING. A GENERAL LULL IN  
PRECIPITATION IS EXPECTED LATE MORNING INTO AFTERNOON; HOWEVER,  
THERE IS UNCERTAINTY REGARDING HOW QUICKLY CEILINGS WILL RISE. WE  
ARE ADVERTISING A GRADUAL TRANSITION TO MVFR FUEL ALTERNATE  
(1000-1900 FT AGL) BY LATE MORNING AND POSSIBLY EXCEEDING 3000  
FEET BY AFTERNOON. HOWEVER, THIS MAY BE OPTIMISTIC AT SOME OF THE  
INLAND TERMINALS. MKG MIGHT MAINTAIN AND KEEP VFR CONDITIONS AS  
FLOW IS VEERED TO A MORE OFFSHORE DIRECTION IN RESPONSE TO A  
POWERFUL LAKE EFFECT SNOW BAND EXTENDING DOWN THE LONG AXIS OF  
LAKE MICHIGAN.  
 
ANOTHER ROUND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW IS EXPECTED TONIGHT WITH MANY  
TERMINALS EXPERIENCING SPORADIC IFR CEILING AND VISIBILITY  
RESTRICTIONS.  
 
 
   
GRR WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
MI...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM EST THIS EVENING FOR MIZ037-  
043.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 7 PM EST MONDAY FOR LMZ844>849.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...TJT  
AVIATION...TJT  
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