408  
FXUS63 KIND 150757  
AFDIND  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN  
257 AM EST FRI NOV 15 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- LOW CLOUDS AND DRIZZLE THROUGH THIS MORNING  
 
- POTENTIAL FOR FOG AND CONTINUED LOW STRATUS TONIGHT  
 
- RAIN CHANCES RETURN TUESDAY FOLLOWED BY A TREND TOWARD COOLER  
TEMPERATURES BY THE END OF THE WEEK.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM (TODAY AND TONIGHT)  
 
ISSUED AT 257 AM EST FRI NOV 15 2024  
 
A RATHER COOL AND DREARY WEATHER PATTERN CONTINUES INTO FRIDAY FOR  
MUCH OF THE STATE. LATEST SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS WIDESPREAD LOW  
STRATUS ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION AND MIDWEST IN THE WAKE OF AN  
AREA OF LOW PRESSURE NEAR DETROIT. LATEST ACARS SOUNDINGS ALIGN WELL  
WITH SHORT TERM MODEL GUIDANCE INDICATING A STRENGTHENING SUBSIDENCE  
INVERSION ALOFT WITH A FAIRLY DEEP SATURATED LAYER FROM THE SURFACE  
TO AROUND 1.5KM AGL. WEAK LIFT ASSOCIATED WITH CYCLONIC FLOW AROUND  
THE AFOREMENTIONED LOW HAS RESULTED IN ISOLATED AREAS OF DRIZZLE  
ACROSS THE STATE EARLY THIS MORNING. KEEPING THE CHANCE FOR DRIZZLE  
IN THROUGH THE REST OF THE MORNING HOURS, WITH A SLIGHT DRYING TREND  
LIKELY BY THE AFTERNOON HOURS. KEEPING THE FORECAST ON THE  
PESSIMISTIC SIDE HOWEVER FOR THE REST OF THE DAY. THE LOWER SUN  
ANGLE THIS TIME OF YEAR WILL STRUGGLE TO HEAT THE BOUNDARY LAYER  
THROUGH THE THICK STRATUS, KEEPING MOISTURE AND LOW CLOUDS STUCK  
NEAR THE SURFACE UNDER THE STRENGTHENING SUBSIDENCE INVERSION ALOFT.  
THIS PATTERN IS NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR WHERE MODELS TRY TO DRY  
OUT AND HEAT THE BOUNDARY LAYER TOO FAST. THEREFORE, GOING BELOW  
GUIDANCE FOR HIGHS TODAY, WITH THE COOLEST AREAS LIKELY IN NORTHERN  
AND EASTERN INDIANA, WHERE CLOUDS WILL STICK AROUND THE LONGEST.  
DEPENDING ON HOW FAST THE CLEARING LINE NEAR THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER  
PUSHES EAST TODAY, THERE MAY BE A GOOD TEMPERATURE GRADIENT FROM  
WEST TO EAST ACROSS THE AREA. IF SUNSHINE IS REALIZED FOR WESTERN  
AND SW INDIANA, HIGHS MAY REACH THE MID 50S; WHEREAS AREAS STUCK  
UNDER LOW CLOUDS MAY STRUGGLE TO EXCEED THE 50 DEGREE MARK.  
 
SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE MOVES DIRECTLY OVERHEAD BY THIS EVENING BEFORE  
SHIFTING NORTHEASTWARD LATER TONIGHT. A NEARLY SATURATED BOUNDARY  
LAYER AND HIGH PRESSURE OVERHEAD MAY RESULT IN AREAS OF FOG AND VERY  
LOW STRATUS ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION OVERNIGHT TONIGHT. IF CLEARING  
DOES TAKE PLACE IN SOME SPOTS, OPTIMAL CONDITIONS FOR RADIATIONAL  
COOLING MAY LEAD TO DENSE FOG AND VERY LOW VISIBILITY IN SOME AREAS.  
WILL WATCH THIS CAREFULLY AS HEADLINES MAY BE NEEDED IF THE THREAT  
FOR DENSE FOG BECOMES WIDESPREAD. FOG AND LOW CLOUDS SHOULD KEEP  
LOWS FROM PLUMMETING, REMAINING ELEVATED IN THE MID 40S.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM (FRIDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY)  
 
ISSUED AT 220 PM EST THU NOV 14 2024  
 
FOG INITIALLY SEEMED AT LEAST POSSIBLE FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY  
MORNING, BUT STRATUS LOOKS TO PERSIST INTO THIS PERIOD. LOW LEVEL  
MOISTURE TRAPPED BENEATH A STRONG SUBSIDENCE INVERSION THIS TIME OF  
YEAR OFTEN RESULTS IN PROLONGED STRATUS. ON THE WESTERN EDGE OF THE  
STRATUS, FOG IS MORE LIKELY, BUT THIS NOW APPEARS TO BE IN ILLINOIS  
OR MISSOURI. WITH PBL MOISTURE BECOMING LESS AND MIXING ON SATURDAY,  
STRATUS IS LIKELY TO BREAK AROUND MIDDAY. BY THEN, MID-HIGH CLOUDS  
FROM THE UPSTREAM SYSTEM AND PACIFIC MOISTURE PLUME, IN ADDITION TO  
INCREASINGLY MSLP GRADIENT SHOULD LIMIT POTENTIAL FOG SUNDAY  
MORNING.  
 
WE WILL BE ON THE WINDWARD SIDE OF THE MEAN RIDGE AXIS SUNDAY, SO  
TEMPERATURES WILL BE ABOUT 10 DEGREES ABOVE MID-NOVEMBER CLIMO.  
WE STILL HAVE LOW PROBABILITIES OF RAIN FOR PORTIONS OF THE AREA  
SUNDAY NIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY, BUT TRENDS IN ALMOST ALL OF THE  
ENSEMBLE MODELS HAVE BEEN FOR LESS COVERAGE AND FURTHER NORTH.  
THIS IS TIED TO A TREND TOWARD A LESS AMPLIFIED NORTHERN STREAM  
SHORTWAVE TROUGH. THERE IS STILL MODEST MOISTURE RETURN INDICATED  
IN THE MODELS AND ASCENT WITH A MIDLEVEL THERMAL GRADIENT, SO WILL  
LEAVE SLIGHT CHANCE IN.  
 
STILL WARM MONDAY AND TUESDAY AS RIDGING RESURGES PRECEDING THE NEXT  
SYSTEM. THERE IS LIMITED ENSEMBLE SPREAD ON LEAD SHORTWAVE TROUGH  
PASSING TO OUR NORTHWEST TUESDAY. ITS ASSOCIATED WARM CONVEYER  
BELT/MOISTURE SURGE SHOULD BRING A BAND OF RAIN MONDAY NIGHT AND  
EARLY TUESDAY, BUT COLD ADVECTION WILL BE MINIMAL AS THIS TROUGH  
WEAKENS AND MOVES EAST AT THE SAME TIME DIGGING TROUGH EVOLVES OVER  
THE PLAINS.  
 
WEDNESDAY ONWARD WE WILL ENTER A PERIOD OF LOW-MID RANGE  
PRECIPITATION PROBABILITIES AND COLDER TEMPERATURES. THE SYNOPTIC-  
SCALE PATTERN IS STILL SOMEWHAT UNCERTAIN AS EPS-WEIGHTED CLUSTERS  
HOLD THE PLAINS TROUGH WEST LONGER, WHILE GFS IS DEEPER AND MORE  
PROGRESSIVE. THIS MAY PRIMARILY IMPACT TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY AS THE  
FORMER CAMP OFFERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WARM PRIOR TO THE ONSET OF  
STRONGER COLD ADVECTION, COMPARED TO THE LATTER CAMP. DETAILS WITH  
REGARDS TO PERIODS OF ENHANCED FORCING/ASCENT WITH ROTATING  
VORTICITY MAXIMA ARE UNCLEAR. ALSO, COLD ADVECTION MAGNITUDE APPEARS  
TO BE MODULATED BY SUBSTANTIAL HIGH-LATITUDE RIDGING IN THIS  
BLOCKING PATTERN, SO WHETHER OR NOT TEMPERATURES ARE COLD ENOUGH FOR  
SNOW LATE NEXT WEEK IS NOT TOTALLY CLEAR. TEMPERATURES WILL BE  
MARGINAL. STEEP LAPSE RATES BENEATH THE COLD CORE LOW WOULD SUPPORT  
A MORE SHOWERY REGIME.  
 
DAY 8-14 WILL START OFF WITH TROUGHING, AND THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME  
SIGNAL FOR THIS TO PERSIST. NEAR TO BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES  
AND NEAR NORMAL PRECIPITATION WOULD RESULT.  
 
 
   
AVIATION (06Z TAF ISSUANCE)  
 
ISSUED AT 1233 AM EST FRI NOV 15 2024  
 
IMPACTS:  
 
- MVFR/IFR CIGS AND VIS SLOWLY IMPROVE AFTER 15Z THIS MORNING  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
MVFR TO IFR CIGS AND VIS WILL CONTINUE THROUGH THE EARLY MORNING  
HOURS AT ALL TAF SITES IN CENTRAL INDIANA. LATEST ACARS SOUNDINGS  
AND SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOW LOW LEVEL MOISTURE AND CLOUDS TRAPPED  
WITHIN THE LOWEST 1KM AGL WITH THE BACK EDGE OF THE CLOUD DECK STILL  
ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER. CYCLONIC FLOW AROUND A DEPARTING AREA  
OF LOW PRESSURE NEAR DETROIT WILL KEEP WINDS OUT OF THE NW AROUND 10  
KTS OVERNIGHT WITH THE CHANCE FOR DRIZZLE IN SUCH A SATURATED  
ENVIRONMENT. PATCHY AREAS OF FOG MIXED IN WITH THE LOW STRATUS MAY  
REDUCE VISIBILITY AT TIMES THROUGH THE LATE MORNING HOURS.  
 
LOWER CONFIDENCE EXISTS WITH HOW FAST CONDITIONS IMPROVE DURING THE  
DAY. POTENTIAL EXISTS FOR MVFR CIGS TO STICK AROUND MUCH OF THE  
AFTERNOON, WHICH IS CERTAINLY POSSIBLE DUE TO THE LOWER SUN ANGLE  
THIS TIME OF YEAR. THE CURRENT TAF CALLS FOR CIGS TO RAISE TO VFR  
LEVELS BY LATE AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING; HOWEVER WILL HAVE TO KEEP A  
CLOSE EYE ON SATELLITE TRENDS LATER TODAY AND ADJUST TAFS  
ACCORDINGLY.  
 
 
   
IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
NONE.  
 
 
 
 
SHORT TERM...CM  
LONG TERM...BRB  
AVIATION...CM  
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