061  
FXUS63 KIND 170702  
AFDIND  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN  
202 AM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- WARMING TREND BACK TO THE 60S BEGINS SUNDAY  
 
- WARMER THAN AVERAGE WEATHER CONTINUES THROUGH TUESDAY  
 
- WINDY AND MUCH COOLER AFTER WEDNESDAY WITH GUSTS TO 40 MPH THURSDAY  
 
- POTENTIAL FOR THE FIRST SNOW OF THE YEAR WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO  
THURSDAY  
 
 
   
FORECAST UPDATE  
 
ISSUED AT 846 PM EST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
GOES-16 NIGHTTIME MICROPHYSICS LOOP AND OBS WERE INDICATING PLENTY  
OF CLEARING ACROSS CENTRAL INDIANA THIS EVENING. HOWEVER, 305K  
ISENTROPIC LIFT AND SOUTHWEST FLOW IN THE WAKE OF AN UPPER OHIO  
VALLEY UPPER RIDGE AND IN ADVANCE OF NORTHERN PLAINS AND SOUTHWEST  
TROUGHING WILL BRING IN SOME MID AND HIGH CLOUDS OVERNIGHT. HI-RES  
SOUNDINGS ARE REVEALING MUCH LESS MOISTURE TRAPPED UNDER A VERY  
STRONG INVERSION. THIS AND BUFKIT SUGGEST LOW LEVEL STRATUS AND OR  
FOG WILL LIKELY NOT BE A BID ISSUE TONIGHT. MEANWHILE, SOUTHEAST  
WINDS 5 TO 10 KNOTS IN THE WAKE OF THE SURFACE RIDGE SHOULD KEEP  
TEMPERATURES FROM FALLING MUCH OVERNIGHT WITH LOWS MOSTLY IN THE  
LOWER TO MIDDLE 40S EXPECTED.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM (THIS EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY)  
 
ISSUED AT 148 PM EST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
DESPITE THE UPPER RIDGE AXIS OVERHEAD AND A STOUT BOUNDARY LAYER  
INVERSION NOTED NICELY ON THE KIND ACARS...A PERSISTENT SOUTHEAST  
FLOW HAS ENABLE MODEST MIXING WITHIN THE LOWER LEVELS ACROSS THE  
SOUTHWEST HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA SO FAR THIS AFTERNOON. THE  
RESULT HAS BEEN A SCATTERING OF THE STRATUS ESSENTIALLY ALONG AND  
WEST OF I-65. 19Z TEMPERATURES HAD RISEN INTO THE 50S ACROSS CENTRAL  
INDIANA.  
 
THE QUESTION FOR TODAY WAS ALWAYS HOW MUCH WE COULD SCATTER THE  
LOWER CLOUDS AND WHILE INITIALLY PESSIMISTIC THIS MORNING BASED ON  
THE ITEMS MENTIONED ABOVE...WE ARE MIXING BETTER THAN PREVIOUSLY  
EXPECTED. THIS WILL AT LEAST PROVIDE BETTER OPPORTUNITIES AT  
SUNSHINE THROUGH THE REST OF THE AFTERNOON FOCUSED ESPECIALLY ACROSS  
THE SOUTHWEST HALF OF THE FORECAST AREA. THAT BEING SAID...THE  
PRESENCE OF THE INVERSION INTO THIS EVENING WILL KEEP STRATUS FROM  
FULLY MIXING OUT THROUGH SUNSET.  
 
THE REST OF THE NEAR TERM THROUGH SUNDAY WILL BE QUIET AS THE OHIO  
VALLEY REMAINS UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE SURFACE RIDGE CURRENTLY  
SHIFTING EAST OF THE AREA. THIS FEATURE WILL DROP SOUTH INTO SUNDAY  
AND REFOCUS ACROSS THE SOUTHERN APPALACHIANS...STILL IN CLOSE ENOUGH  
PROXIMITY TO MAINTAIN A SOLID INFLUENCE ACROSS THE REGION.  
 
HOW MUCH THE LOWER DECK ERODES ACROSS THE REGION BY THIS EVENING  
WILL BE A FACTOR IN THE AMOUNT OF ANY REEXPANSION AS THE BOUNDARY  
LAYER INVERSION LINGERS. PRIMARY FOCUS FOR STRATUS REDEVELOPMENT  
WILL BE ACROSS NORTHERN COUNTIES WHERE THE DEEPEST MOISTURE WILL  
REMAIN THROUGH EARLY SUNDAY. FURTHER SOUTH ACROSS THE FORECAST  
AREA DRIER AIR WILL FILTER DOWN INTO THE LOWER LEVELS BUT  
INCREASING HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS WILL OVERSPREAD THE REGION AHEAD OF  
THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY EXTENDING FROM THE UPPER MIDWEST SOUTH INTO  
TEXAS.  
 
THE LOWER CLOUDS WILL DISSIPATE ENTIRELY ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF  
THE FORECAST AREA SUNDAY MORNING...LEAVING A MIX OF SUN AND CLOUDS  
WITH A GRADUAL INCREASE IN MID AND HIGH LEVEL CLOUDS THROUGHOUT THE  
DAY AS THE WEAKENING BOUNDARY APPROACHES. SOUTHWEST FLOW AHEAD OF  
THE FRONT WILL BE PERIODICALLY GUSTY BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON...  
ESPECIALLY OVER THE WABASH VALLEY.  
 
TEMPS...DESPITE SOME CLEARING TONIGHT...STEADY SOUTHERLY FLOW AND  
WARM ADVECTION WILL KEEP LOWS PRIMARILY IN THE LOWER 40S. LOW LEVEL  
THERMALS COMBINED WITH MODEST BOUNDARY LAYER MIXING SUPPORT A NICE  
AFTERNOON WITH HIGHS RISING INTO THE LOWER AND MID 60S.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM (SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY)  
 
ISSUED AT 148 PM EST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY.  
 
MUCH WARMER THAN NORMAL TEMPERATURES WILL CONTINUE INTO MONDAY WITH  
BROAD RIDGING ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY AND STRENGTHENING SOUTHERLY  
FLOW NEAR THE SURFACE AS A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM MOVES ACROSS SOUTHERN  
CANADA. HIGHS ON MONDAY AND TUESDAY WILL CLIMB INTO THE LOW TO MID  
60S WITH SOME UPPER 60S POSSIBLE SOUTH OF INDIANAPOLIS ON TUESDAY.  
CLOUD COVER WILL GRADUALLY BEGIN TO INCREASE LATE MONDAY AS THE NEXT  
RAIN PRODUCING SYSTEM BEGINS TO MOVE NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE BAJA  
PENINSULA INTO THE PLAINS.  
 
THE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ACROSS CANADA WILL HELP TO PUSH THE SYSTEM  
IN A MORE NORTHERLY DIRECTION THAN WOULD TYPICALLY BE EXPECTED OF A  
SYSTEM TRACKING FROM THE BAJA PENINSULA. THIS WILL KEEP THE HEAVIEST  
RAIN WEST OF THE FORECAST AREA WITH PRECIPITATION ONSET LATE MONDAY  
NIGHT. THE GREATER IMPACTS FROM THIS SYSTEM WILL BE FROM GRADIENT  
WINDS TUESDAY AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER DEEPENS TO AROUND 4KFT WHICH  
WILL ALLOW THE MIXING DOWN OF WINDS TO AROUND 25-35 MPH. TOTAL  
RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO BE AROUND A QUARTER OF AN INCH.  
 
WEDNESDAY THROUGH SATURDAY.  
 
THE MOST IMPACTFUL WEATHER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD IS EXPECTED  
WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY AS THE TUESDAY SYSTEM CONTINUES TO  
MOVE NORTHWARD. A MUCH STRONGER LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM WILL UNDERGO  
CYCLOGENESIS AS IT MOVES IN FROM THE NORTHWEST IN THE AFTERMATH OF  
THE FIRST SYSTEM. THIS LOW WILL BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE SOME OF THE  
WARMER AND MORE MOIST AIR FROM THE PREVIOUS SYSTEM WHICH WILL  
FURTHER ENHANCE THE PRECIPITATION AS IT NEARS THE OHIO VALLEY. A LOW  
TRACKING IN THIS GENERAL DIRECTION WOULD TYPICALLY WOULD BE MORE  
STARVED OF MORE ROBUST MOISTURE WITH A LACK OF A GOOD SOURCE. THERE  
REMAINS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY AS TO BOTH THE TRACK AND STRENGTH OF  
THE LOW, BUT CONFIDENCE IS INCREASING THAT AT LEAST PARTS OF THE  
FORECAST AREA WILL SEE THE FIRST SNOWFLAKES OF THE YEAR WITH THE  
POTENTIAL FOR MINOR ACCUMULATIONS.  
 
SURFACE TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY WILL BE MARGINAL  
AT BEST (32-35) WHICH COMBINED WITH THE VERY WARM GROUND TEMPS WILL  
HELP TO LIMIT THE TOTAL SNOWFALL, BUT THERE IS A GOOD SIGNAL FOR A  
TIGHTER BAND OF PRECIPITATION ON THE NORTHERN END OF THE LOW WHICH  
WOULD BE ABLE TO OVERCOME THE GROUND TEMPERATURES IF THE COLDER-END  
MODEL SOLUTIONS VERIFY AND SNOW MIXES IN. THERE IS ALSO SOME  
QUESTION AS TO HOW QUICKLY THE COLDER AIR MOVES IN WITH THE  
POTENTIAL THAT THE BULK OF THE FORCING MAY EXIT BEFORE THE NEAR  
SURFACE AIR IS COLD ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SNOWFALL. MODEL SNOW  
ACCUMULATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO SEVERELY STRUGGLE IN THESE MARGINAL  
TEMPERATURE WITH HIGH QPF SCENARIOS WITH MODEL SNOW DEPTH NUMBERS  
SHOWING 20-50% OF THE TOTAL ACCUMULATION VALUES WHICH BETTER FACTOR  
IN THE MARGINAL GROUND AND NEAR SURFACE TEMPERATURES.  
 
WHERE CONFIDENCE IS HIGHER IS THAT THURSDAY WILL BE A DREARY AND  
COLD DAY WITH WIND GUSTS OF 30-40 MPH, WIDESPREAD CLOUD COVER, AND  
TEMPERATURES THAT WILL LIKELY STAY BELOW 40. LAKE ENHANCED MOISTURE  
WILL CONTINUE TO STREAM INTO THE NORTHEASTERN COUNTIES FRIDAY INTO  
SATURDAY WHICH MAY BRING ADDITIONAL CHANCES FOR LIGHT SNOW ALONG  
WITH WIDESPREAD COLDER THAN NORMAL CONDITIONS ACROSS ALL OF CENTRAL  
INDIANA THROUGH THE WEEKEND INTO EARLY THE FOLLOWING WEEK.  
 
 
   
AVIATION (06Z TAF ISSUANCE)  
 
ISSUED AT 202 AM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
IMPACTS:  
 
- CAN NOT RULE OUT MVFR TO IFR STRATUS LATE SUNDAY NIGHT  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
CENTRAL INDIANA WILL LARGELY SIT UNDER THE BACKSIDE OF A SURFACE  
HIGH BRINGING SOUTHERLY TO SOUTHWESTERLY WINDS TODAY AND INTO  
TONIGHT. WINDS WILL START OFF AROUND 5 TO 10 KTS DUE TO TIGHTER  
PRESSURE GRADIENTS. BY THE EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AN  
APPROACHING WARM FRONT WILL BRING LOW CLOUDS AROUND THE END OF THE  
TAF PERIOD AND INTO THE 24+ HR FOR IND THAT COULD DROP CEILINGS AS  
LOW AS IFR LATE TONIGHT. WINDS WILL ALSO DROP TO NEAR CALM TONIGHT.  
 
 
   
IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
NONE.  
 
 
 
 
UPDATE...MK  
SHORT TERM...RYAN  
LONG TERM...WHITE  
AVIATION...KF  
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