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FXUS63 KIND 180236  
AFDIND  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN  
936 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- SPRINKLES OR LIGHT RAIN POSSIBLE TONIGHT. CHANCES FOR RAIN CONTINUE  
DURING THE DAY MONDAY  
 
- MORE WIDESPREAD RAIN MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY  
 
- MUCH COLDER WEATHER WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH SATURDAY WITH THE  
POTENTIAL FOR THE FIRST SNOWFLAKES OF THE YEAR THURSDAY  
 
- BREEZY THURSDAY AFTERNOON WITH GUSTS OF 25-35 MPH  
 

 
   
FORECAST UPDATE
 
 
ISSUED AT 934 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
INCREASED SKY COVER A BIT TO MATCH CURRENT SATELLITE TRENDS, AND  
LIKEWISE INCREASED TEMPERATURES WHICH HAVE NOT BEEN DECREASING AS  
QUICKLY AS GUIDANCE SUGGESTED. OTHERWISE, FORECAST IS ON TRACK.  
EXPECT DECREASING WINDS AS A WEAK BOUNDARY SETTLES ACROSS THE CWA.  
WINDS SHOULD GO LIGHT AND VARIABLE, PERHAPS CALM, IN MOST LOCATIONS.  
HIGH RESOLUTION GUIDANCE WANTS TO DEVELOP FOG OVERNIGHT (DUE TO HIGH  
BOUNDARY LAYER MOISTURE, LIGHT WINDS, AND CLEARER SKIES), BUT AM  
THINKING THIS IS OVERDONE SINCE THESE MODELS SHOW LOWER SKY COVERAGE  
THAN OBSERVATIONS. WILL KEEP FOG OUT OF THE FORECAST FOR NOW.  
NEVERTHELESS, CLOUD BASES SHOULD LOWER WITH TIME OVERNIGHT...PERHAPS  
REACHING AS LOW AS 700-1000FT AGL. SCATTERED SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE AT  
TIMES TOO, ESPECIALLY NEAR THE FRONT WHICH FAVORS THE CENTRAL AND  
NORTHERN PARTS OF OUR AREA.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM (THIS EVENING THROUGH MONDAY)
 
 
ISSUED AT 203 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
A PLUME OF MOISTURE ACROSS CENTRAL ILLINOIS INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA,  
AHEAD OF A SURFACE COLD FRONT, WILL SINK INTO NORTHWEST CENTRAL  
INDIANA THIS AFTERNOON AS THE COLD FRONT SLOWLY MOVES SOUTH AND  
EAST. WILL ADD A SPRINKLES MENTION THERE. OTHERWISE, CENTRAL INDIANA  
WILL SEE AN INCREASE IN CLOUDS THIS AFTERNOON WITH MILD TEMPERATURES.  
 
THIS EVENING, THE AFOREMENTIONED COLD FRONT WILL STALL OUT ACROSS  
NORTHERN INDIANA. THE AREA OF SPRINKLES SHOULD STAY IN THE NORTHWEST  
FORECAST AREA, BUT WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF A FEW SPRINKLES MAKE IT  
FARTHER SOUTHEAST. WILL KEEP THE SPRINKLES MENTION NORTHWEST BUT DRY  
ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE AREA THIS EVENING FOR NOW.  
 
OVERNIGHT, WARM ADVECTION AND WEAK LIFT WILL BEGIN ACROSS THE  
FORECAST AREA AS A SYSTEM STRENGTHENS ACROSS THE SOUTH CENTRAL USA.  
GIVEN THE WEAK LIFT, WILL ONLY HAVE SOME LOW POPS BEFORE 12Z. CLOUDS  
AND SOUTHERLY FLOW WILL KEEP TEMPERATURES WARMER AND IN THE  
UPPER 40S AND LOWER 50S FOR LOWS.  
 
AS THE SYSTEM IN THE CENTRAL USA STRENGTHENS AND MOVES NORTH MONDAY,  
850MB FLOW WILL INCREASE AND BRING BETTER MOISTURE INTO THE AREA.  
ISENTROPIC LIFT INCREASES DURING THE DAY MONDAY AS WELL. HOWEVER,  
BEST FORCING AND MOISTURE WILL BE TO THE WEST OF CENTRAL INDIANA,  
CLOSER TO THE MAIN SYSTEM. THUS, WILL KEEP MOST AREAS IN SLIGHT  
CHANCE OR CHANCE POPS. THE FAR WEST MAY BE CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE  
BETTER FORCING AND MOISTURE FOR A PERIOD OF LIKELY CATEGORY POPS.  
 
TEMPERATURES WILL RISE INTO THE LOWER AND MIDDLE 60S FOR HIGHS  
MONDAY WITH THE WARM ADVECTION CONTINUING.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM (MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY)
 
 
ISSUED AT 203 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY.  
 
CLOUD COVER WILL GRADUALLY BEGIN TO INCREASE MONDAY NIGHT AS THE  
NEXT RAIN PRODUCING SYSTEM BEGINS TO MOVE NORTHEASTWARD FROM THE  
BAJA PENINSULA INTO THE PLAINS. MODELS HAVE BEGUN TO CLUSTER ON A  
SIMILAR SOLUTION WITH A SHARP NORTHERLY TRACK TO THE LOW WHICH WILL  
KEEP CONDITIONS DRY UNTIL ALL BUT MONDAY NIGHT FOR ALL BUT THE FAR  
WESTERN COUNTIES. THE BULK OF THE PRECIPITATION WITH THIS FIRST PART  
OF THE SYSTEM WILL FALL DURING THE LATE OVERNIGHT HOURS MONDAY INTO  
EARLY TUESDAY AHEAD OF THE COLD FRONT. THE GREATER IMPACTS FROM THIS  
SYSTEM WILL BE FROM GRADIENT WINDS TUESDAY AS THE BOUNDARY LAYER  
DEEPENS TO AROUND 4KFT WHICH WILL ALLOW THE MIXING DOWN OF WINDS TO  
AROUND 25-35 MPH. TOTAL RAINFALL IS EXPECTED TO BE AROUND A QUARTER  
OF AN INCH.  
 
WEDNESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY  
 
THE MOST IMPACTFUL WEATHER OF THE FORECAST PERIOD IS EXPECTED  
WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY AS THE TUESDAY SYSTEM CONTINUES TO  
MOVE NORTHWARD AND DEEP CYCLOGENESIS BEGINS AND A MUCH STRONGER LOW  
MOVES IN FROM THE NORTHWEST WHICH WILL BE ABLE TO INTEGRATE SOME OF  
THE WARMER AND HIGHER PWAT AIR IN A SYSTEM THAT TYPICALLY WOULD BE  
STARVED OF MORE ROBUST MOISTURE BASED ON THE TRACK SOUTHEASTWARD.  
THERE REMAINS A FAIR AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY AS TO BOTH THE TRACK AND  
STRENGTH OF THE LOW, BUT CONFIDENCE IS INCREASING THAT AT LEAST THE  
NORTHERN PORTION OF THE FORECAST AREA WILL SEE THE FIRST SNOWFLAKES  
OF THE YEAR WITH THE LOW POTENTIAL FOR MINOR ACCUMULATIONS LATE  
WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY.  
 
SURFACE TEMPERATURES WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY WILL BE MARGINAL  
AT BEST (32-35) WHICH COMBINED WITH THE VERY WARM GROUND TEMPS  
SHOULD LIMIT/ELIMINATE ACCUMULATIONS, BUT WITH DECENT NEAR SURFACE  
LAPSE RATES THERE MAY BE SHORT PERIODS WHERE SNOWFALL RATES MAY  
OVERCOME THE WARMER TEMPERATURES. THERE IS ALSO SOME QUESTION AS TO  
HOW QUICKLY THE COLDER AIR MOVES IN WITH THE POTENTIAL THAT THE BULK  
OF THE FORCING MAY EXIT BEFORE THE NEAR SURFACE AIR IS COLD ENOUGH  
TO SUPPORT SNOWFALL. MODELS ARE ALSO STILL SHOWING QUITE A  
DISCONNECT WITH THE SURFACE LOW AND PARENT UPPER LEVEL TROUGH WHICH  
DOESN'T USUALLY LINE UP WITH THE PROGRESSION OF A CLIPPER-LIKE  
SYSTEM AND WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED IN THE COMING DAYS.  
 
WHERE CONFIDENCE IS HIGHER IS THAT THURSDAY WILL BE A DREARY AND  
COLD DAY WITH WIND GUSTS OF 25-30 MPH, WIDESPREAD CLOUD COVER, AND  
TEMPERATURES THAT WILL LIKELY STAY BELOW 40. LOCALIZED LOCATIONS  
JUST SOUTHWEST OF THE SURFACE LOW MAY HAVE HIGHER GUSTS THAT COULD  
APPROACH 40-45 MPH. LAKE ENHANCED MOISTURE WILL CONTINUE TO STREAM  
INTO THE NORTHEASTERN COUNTIES FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY WHICH MAY BRING  
ADDITIONAL CHANCES FOR LIGHT SNOW ALONG WITH WIDESPREAD COLDER THAN  
NORMAL CONDITIONS ACROSS ALL OF CENTRAL INDIANA INTO THE EARLY  
WEEKEND. BY SUNDAY THE FLOW WILL BECOME MORE ZONAL WHICH WILL FAVOR  
THE CLEARING OUT OF THE NEAR SURFACE STRATUS AND GRADUALLY WARMING  
TEMPERATURES.  
 

 
   
AVIATION (00Z TAF ISSUANCE)
 
 
ISSUED AT 636 PM EST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
IMPACTS:  
 
- MVFR CEILINGS DEVELOPING OVERNIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING  
- IFR POSSIBLE AT SOUTHERN SITES MONDAY MORNING  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH 06Z OR SO THEN MVFR CEILINGS  
WILL DEVELOP AS A WARM FRONT SETS UP OVER CENTRAL INDIANA. IFR IS  
POSSIBLE AT KHUF/KBMG LATE TONIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING. A FEW  
SHOWERS ARE ALSO POSSIBLE AT TIMES, MAINLY BEFORE 21Z.  
 
WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO DECREASE THIS EVENING, BECOMING LIGHT AND  
VARIABLE OVERNIGHT. SOME TERMINALS MAY GO CALM FOR A PERIOD OF TIME.  
AFTER SUNRISE, WINDS INCREASE A BIT TO AROUND 5KT WITH A  
SOUTHEASTERLY COMPONENT. WINDS INCREASE FURTHER IN THE EVENING TO  
AROUND 10KT MAINTAINING THEIR SOUTHEASTERLY COMPONENT.  
 
A STRONG STORM SYSTEM TO OUR WEST SHOULD INDUCE A POTENT LOW-LEVEL  
JET TO DEVELOP JUST AFTER END OF THE TAF PERIOD, AND SOME LOW-LEVEL  
WIND SHEAR MAY BE POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING.  
 

 
   
IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
UPDATE...ECKHOFF  
SHORT TERM...50  
LONG TERM...WHITE  
AVIATION...ECKHOFF  
 
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