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FXUS63 KIND 190800  
AFDIND  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN  
300 AM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- RAIN COMES TO AN END LATER THIS MORNING, WITH A WARM AND DRY  
AFTERNOON EXPECTED  
 
- WINDS GUSTING 25-30+ MPH THIS MORNING WILL SUBSIDE TO 15-25 MPH  
THIS AFTERNOON  
 
- COOLER WITH LIGHT RAINFALL AMOUNTS WEDNESDAY  
 
- WINDY THURSDAY WITH RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS; LIGHT ACCUMULATION IF ANY  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM (TODAY AND TONIGHT)
 
 
ISSUED AT 300 AM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
CENTRAL INDIANA IS CURRENTLY IN THE WARM SECTOR OF A RAPIDLY  
OCCLUDING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM THIS MORNING, WITH THE PRIMARY WARM  
CONVEYOR BELT BAND OF PRECIPITATION RAPIDLY PUSHING ACROSS THE AREA.  
 
THIS BAND OF RAIN WILL RAPIDLY CLEAR THE AREA LATER THIS MORNING,  
WITH MUCH OF THE AREA DRY AND BREEZY TODAY, WITH PLENTIFUL CLEARING  
EXPECTED THIS AFTERNOON IN THE WAKE OF THE INITIAL FRONT.  
 
THAT SAID, HIGH TEMPERATURES TODAY ARE STILL EXPECTED TO BE WELL  
ABOVE NORMAL, AS THE PRIMARY LOW LEVEL PUSH OF COLD AIR IS STILL  
BOTTLED UP WITH THE MAIN COLD FRONT WELL BACK TO THE WEST. THIS COLD  
ADVECTION WILL ARRIVE IN EARNEST THIS EVENING, TAKING TEMPERATURES  
FROM AFTERNOON NUMBERS IN THE MID TO UPPER 60S DOWN WELL INTO THE  
40S IF NOT UPPER 30S IN A FEW SPOTS BY LATE TONIGHT.  
 
CLOUD COVER WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE AGAIN LATE TONIGHT AS THE  
CONSOLIDATED UPPER LOW APPROACHES. CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT A FEW  
SPRINKLES WITH A VORT LOBE SWINGING INTO THE AREA NEAR DAYBREAK  
WEDNESDAY, BUT FORECAST PROFILES SUGGEST THIS SHOULD HOLD OFF UNTIL  
NEAR OR JUST AFTER 12Z, AND WILL KEEP A DRY FORECAST THROUGHOUT  
TONIGHT.  
 
WIND GUSTS WILL BE STRONGEST FROM NEAR DAYBREAK THROUGH THE MORNING  
HOURS, WITH A FEW GUSTS PUSHING 30KT POSSIBLE AS THE INITIAL FRONT  
SWEEPS THROUGH THE AREA - THOUGH MOST GUSTS WILL BE CONFINED TO THE  
25KT RANGE GIVE OR TAKE A FEW. THESE GUSTS WILL GRADUALLY SUBSIDE  
THROUGH THE DAY, THOUGH INCREASED MIXING AS SKIES CLEAR MAY KEEP  
THEM GOING, ALBEIT A BIT WEAKER, INTO THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON  
HOURS.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM (WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY)
 
 
ISSUED AT 300 AM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
TWO FACTORS SHOULD LIMIT PRECIPITATION COVERAGE AND INTENSITY  
SOMEWHAT ON WEDNESDAY. 1. MODELS IVT FIELDS SHOW RICH SUBTROPICAL  
MOISTURE PLUME WILL BE WELL EAST OF OUR REGION OWING TO THE  
SPRAWLING NATURE OF BROAD OCCLUDED LOW. 2. THE STAGE THIS MID-  
LATITUDE CYCLONE IS IN SUGGEST LIMITED CROSS-THERMAL GRADIENT FLOW  
(I.E., TEMPERED ISENTROPIC ASCENT). NEVERTHELESS, ASCENT WITHIN THE  
EXIT REGION OF INTENSE ~130-KT 500-MB JET STREAK SHOULD BE ENOUGH  
FOR SOME LIGHT PRECIPITATION. THESE STRONGER FORCED PRECIPITATION  
EVENTS AMIDST MARGINAL MOISTURE TEND TO FALL ON THE WETTER END OF  
THE ENSEMBLE SUITE MORE TIMES THAN NOT. 75TH PERCENTILE OF THE GRAND  
ENSEMBLE RANGES FROM AROUND 0.10" TO 0.25" (AND A BIT HIGHER IN EAST-  
CENTRAL INDIANA). HREF 75TH PERCENTILE IS COMPARATIVELY MUCH LOWER,  
BUT ITS STRENGTH IS MORE IN CONVECTIVE REGIMES, WHICH THIS IS NOT,  
SO WE'LL FAVOR THE GLOBAL MODEL ENSEMBLE AMOUNTS. PEAK COVERAGE  
SHOULD BE IN THE MID-MORNING THROUGH EARLY AFTERNOON TIME WINDOW.  
 
THE STRENGTHENING MIDLEVEL SPEED MAXIMA IS ACTUALLY SHOWN IN THE  
MODELS TO SPAWN A SECONDARY SURFACE LOW ACROSS THE EASTERN GREAT  
LAKES. AS THIS LOW STRENGTHENS, ISALLOBARIC MASS RESPONSE WILL  
RESULT IN INCREASINGLY BREEZY CONDITIONS AS THE DAY PROGRESSES. COLD  
ADVECTION WILL STRENGTHEN COINCIDENTALLY, PROBABLY EFFECTIVELY  
NEGATING THE DIABATIC SURFACE HEATING-DRIVEN DIURNAL CLIMB. WE MAY  
STRUGGLE TO REACH 50 AND BE RIGHT AROUND CLIMATOLOGICAL NORMAL.  
 
THURSDAY, A COMPLICATED AND UNIQUE SYNOPTIC-SCALE EVOLUTION IS NOTED  
IN THE MODELS. MOST SHOW THE NEW GREAT LAKES LOW PEAKING IN  
INTENSITY AS IT IS PULLED WEST WITHIN THE ORIGINAL OCCLUDED LOW.  
SOME ENSEMBLE MEMBERS AND NAM-BASED GUIDANCE HOLD THE LOW FURTHER  
EAST. AND, INTERESTINGLY MOST SHOW A NEW DOMINANT MSLP LOW CENTER  
DEVELOPING ALONG THE ATLANTIC COAST. REGARDLESS, WE WILL BE IN THE  
PROXIMITY OF THE SECOND SURFACE LOW WITH FAIRLY TIGHT MSLP GRADIENT  
AND STEEP TROPOSPHERIC LAPSE RATES NEAR THE CORE OF THE DEEP LOW.  
THERE ARE ALSO INDICATIONS OF STRENGTHENING PERIPHERAL FLOW IN CLOSE  
ENOUGH PROXIMITY FOR MOMENTUM TRANSFER TO POTENTIALLY RESULT IN  
QUITE STRONG WIND GUSTS (>40-MPH). WE WILL REFINE WIND SPEEDS AS  
ENSEMBLE SPREAD AND RUN-TO-RUN INCONSISTENCY LESSENS.  
 
MODELS SHOW MODEST MOISTURE RETURN WRAPPING AROUND THE DEEP LOW AND  
IMPINGING ON INDIANA COINCIDENT WITH TWO DISTINCT VORTICITY  
MAXIMA/PV ANOMALIES. ONE DURING THE MORNING AND ANOTHER LATE IN THE  
DAY. THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH, AMIDST STEEP LAPSE RATES, FOR CONVECTIVE  
SHALLOW SHOWERS, PERHAPS MOST CONCENTRATED ALONG THE LATTER  
SOUTHWARD MOVING INTENSE PV ANOMALY. THERMAL PROFILE MAY BE MARGINAL  
FOR RAIN/SNOW, BUT AT THIS TIME TENDS TO FAVOR SNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH  
SUCH STEEP LAPSE RATES WHICH WOULD SUPPORT SNOW PTYPE WITH 2-M  
TEMPERATURES IN THE MID-UPPER 30S. WHERE TEMPERATURES ARE WARMER,  
THERMAL PROFILES MAY EVEN SUPPORT SOME GRAUPEL.  
 
IT'S WORTH NOTHING THAT IF THE SECOND PV ANOMALY IS FURTHER EAST, AS  
IS SUGGESTED IN SOME ENSEMBLES AND NAM-BASED GUIDANCE, PRECIPITATION  
COVERAGE THE LATTER HALF OF THE DAY WOULD BE MORE LIMITED. WITH SUCH  
A PLAUSIBLE ALTERNATE SCENARIO, POTENTIAL SNOWFALL ACCUMULATION  
AMOUNTS ARE UNCERTAIN. A REASONABLE WORST CASE SCENARIO COULD RESULT  
IN AN INCH OR TWO ACROSS NORTHERN AND EASTERN PORTIONS OF THE AREA.  
THIS MAY BE REGULATED SOME BY WARM GROUND, SINCE SNOWFALL RATES  
LIKELY WON'T BE PARTICULARLY HIGH. BUT QPF/SLR COMBINATIONS WITHIN A  
SUBSET OF ENSEMBLE MEMBERS DO SUPPORT THESE AMOUNTS. A MORE LIKELY  
SCENARIO TO MESSAGE NOW GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY IS A DECENT CHANCE OF  
<1" ACCUMULATION MAINLY IN GRASSY AREAS AND ELEVATED SURFACES FOR  
ROUGHLY THE NORTHEAST HALF OF CENTRAL INDIANA. BLENDED MODEL >1"  
SNOWFALL PROBABILITIES PEAK AT AROUND 60% IN EAST-CENTRAL INDIANA  
TAPERING TO AROUND 30% FOR INDIANAPOLIS. IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT  
THERE ARE MULTIPLE COMPONENTS TO CONSIDER WHICH CAN JEOPARDIZE THE  
CALIBRATION OF THESE GRANULAR MODEL EXCEEDANCE THRESHOLD VALUES.  
 
STRATUS MAY BE SLOW TO CLEAR AS THIS SYSTEM DEPARTS, MUCH LIKE THE  
LAST SYSTEM. RESIDUAL LOW LEVEL MOISTURE IS INDICATED IN MODELS,  
ALONG WITH PERIPHERAL CYCLONIC LOWER TROPOSPHERIC FLOW CONTINUING  
INTO SATURDAY, WITH A SUBSIDENT REGIME UPSTREAM OF THE DEPARTING  
TROUGH. WE WILL INCREASE CLOUD COVER THROUGH THE FIRST PART OF  
SATURDAY, AND EVEN HAVE SOME PESSIMISM ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR  
STRATUS TO CLEAR ON SATURDAY. BY LATE SATURDAY OR SUNDAY, MEAN RIDGE  
AXIS WILL MOVE OVERHEAD WITH POSITIVE MIDLEVEL HEIGHT ANOMALIES AND  
A SHIFT IN LOW LEVEL FLOW FAVORING SOME MODEST DRY ADVECTION.  
ALTHOUGH, AT THAT TIME, PACIFIC MOISTURE PLUME WITHIN FAST  
WESTERLIES ALOFT WILL PROBABLY RESULT IN EXTENSIVE CIRRUS.  
 
A BROAD LOW-AMPLITUDE TROUGH IS SHOWN IN THE MODELS APPROACHING  
EARLY NEXT WEEK, BUT THE DIVERSITY OF ITS AMPLITUDE AND TIMING IS  
BROADER THAN WOULD BE IDEAL IN THE MEDIUM RANGE MODELS. GEFS/GFS-  
WEIGHTED CLUSTER AND EPS/EUROPEAN-WEIGHTED CLUSTER ARE OUT OF PHASE  
WITH TROUGH/RIDGE POSITION, ALTHOUGH BOTH SHOW IT AND ARE  
PROGRESSIVE, SO IT'S MAINLY A TIMING ISSUE. GEPS/CANADIAN-WEIGHTING  
IS DISTRIBUTED FAIRLY UNIFORMLY AMONG THE TWO CLUSTERS. SOME OF THE  
OUTLIER ENSEMBLE MEMBERS ARE DRIVING TWO OTHER SCENARIOS REPRESENTED  
BY THE OTHER TWO CLUSTERS. SO, FORECAST UNCERTAINTY IS HIGHER THAN  
TYPICAL EARLY NEXT WEEK. FOR NOW WE HAVE MID-RANGE PRECIPITATION  
PROBABILITIES SPREAD ACROSS A BROAD TIME RANGE. WE WILL REFINE LATER  
ONCE THE TROUGH/RIDGE PATTERN BECOMES MORE CLEAR, AS WELL AS HOW THE  
MORE EASTWARD-BENDING MOISTURE PLUME SEEN IN MODEL IVT IS ABLE TO  
INTERACT WITH THE TROUGH. THE GENERAL PATTERN WILL BE WARM ENOUGH  
FOR RAIN AND COULD PEAK AT AROUND 5-7 DEGREES ABOVE MID-LATE  
NOVEMBER CLIMATOLOGY.  
 
FORECAST SKILL IN THE DAY 8-14 PERIOD APPEARS TO BE LESS THAN  
TYPICAL. THERE IS NEARLY AN EVEN SPLIT WITHIN THE MULTI-MODEL  
ENSEMBLE OF WHETHER WE'LL SEE A RIDGE OR TROUGH IN THE EAST AT THE  
START OF THIS PERIOD. FURTHERMORE, THE UPSTREAM SYNOPTIC PATTERN  
DIFFERS SIGNIFICANTLY. ALL THAT CAN BE SAID AT THIS TIME IS THAT IT  
APPEARS THERE WILL BE VARIABILITY IN TEMPERATURE AND OPPORTUNITIES  
FOR PRECIPITATION, GIVEN THE INDICATION OF A CONTINUATION OF A  
PROGRESSIVE AT LEAST SOMEWHAT AMPLIFIED SYNOPTIC FLOW PATTERN.  
 

 
   
AVIATION (06Z TAF ISSUANCE)
 
 
ISSUED AT 1244 AM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
IMPACTS:  
 
- GUSTY WINDS THROUGH MUCH OF THE NIGHT INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON  
 
- MVFR CEILINGS IN SHOWERS LATE TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY MORNING  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
A FRONTAL SYSTEM IS QUICKLY APPROACHING THE AREA, WITH SHOWERS  
EXPECTED TO BEGIN AT THE SITES WITHIN THE FIRST HOUR OR TWO OF THE  
TAF PERIOD AND CONTINUE INTO EARLY TO MID MORNING TUESDAY. MVFR  
CEILINGS WILL DEVELOP ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHOWERS, AND BRIEF PERIODS  
OF IFR CANNOT ENTIRELY BE RULED OUT, BUT WILL BE TRANSIENT/LOW  
PROBABILITY ENOUGH TO EXCLUDE.  
 
VFR CONDITIONS SHOULD RETURN BY MIDDAY AT THE LATEST, PERSISTING  
THROUGH THE REST OF THE PERIOD.  
 
WINDS ARE GENERALLY SOUTHEASTERLY AT THE MOMENT, AND WILL GRADUALLY  
VEER TO SOUTHWESTERLY AND WESTERLY BY THE END OF THE PERIOD. GUSTS  
OVERNIGHT INTO TUESDAY AFTERNOON IN THE LOW TO MID 20KT RANGE CAN BE  
EXPECTED, WITH SUSTAINED WINDS 10-15KT. GUSTS SHOULD SUBSIDE LATE  
AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING ON TUESDAY.  
 

 
   
IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
SHORT TERM...NIELD  
LONG TERM...BRB  
AVIATION...NIELD  
 
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