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FXUS63 KIND 200315  
AFDIND  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN  
1015 PM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- DRY AND COOLER TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY.  
- FIRST SNOW POSSIBLE ON THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT, POSSIBLY  
IMPACTING THURSDAY EVENING RUSH HOURS.  
- SMALL SNOW ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLE THURSDAY AND THURSDAY NIGHT,  
RESULTING IN SLICK SURFACES.  
- MAINLY DRY AND NOT AS COLD THIS WEEKEND.  
- RAIN CHANCES RETURN LATE MONDAY AND TUESDAY.  
 
 
   
FORECAST UPDATE  
 
ISSUED AT 1014 PM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
THE FORECAST REMAINS IN GOOD SHAPE WITH ONLY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS  
NEEDED. EXPECT QUIET WEATHER CONDITIONS TO CONTINUE THROUGH TONIGHT  
BEFORE A QUICK MOVING SYSTEM APPROACHES TOWARDS DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY.  
MORE DETAILS ON THIS SYSTEM CAN BE FOUND IN SHORT TERM DISCUSSION  
BELOW. LATEST GUIDANCE SUGGESTS THERE WILL BE STRONGER FORCING  
WEDNESDAY MORNING WITH THE APPROACHING DISTURBANCE SUPPORTING  
BETTER CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION. RAINFALL CHANCES WERE INCREASED  
USING CAMS TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS.  
 
CURRENT OBSERVATIONS SHOW WINDS ACROSS MUCH OF CENTRAL INDIANA ARE  
NEAR CALM TONIGHT AS THE PBL HAS DECOUPLED QUICKLY UNDER CLEAR  
SKIES. RAINFALL EARLY THIS MORNING COMBINED WITH LIGHT WINDS AND  
CLEAR SKIES COULD LEAD TO SOME PATCHY FOG DEVELOPMENT LATER TONIGHT.  
ONLY MINOR VISIBILITY REDUCTIONS ARE EXPECTED AT THIS TIME.  
TEMPERATURES WILL GENERALLY FALL INTO THE LOW-MID 40S OVERNIGHT  
WHICH IS STILL ABOVE NORMAL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM (THIS EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY)  
 
ISSUED AT 304 PM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
CLEARING HAS TAKEN PLACE ACROSS ALL OF CENTRAL INDIANA THIS  
AFTERNOON AS THE DRY SLOT OF AN OCCLUDED LOW IN MINNESOTA  
OVERSPREADS THE REGION. COLD AIR IS LAGGING BEHIND IN THE UPPER  
MIDWEST, RESULTING IN WHAT LIKELY WILL BE ONE OF THE LAST WARM DAYS  
OF THE YEAR. LATEST IND ACARS SOUNDING SHOWS STEEP LAPSE RATES IN  
THE LOWEST 1KM AGL WORKING TO MIX DOWN STRONGER WINDS FROM THE LOW  
LEVEL JET. WHILE THE SOUTHWESTERLY LOW LEVEL JET WEAKENS AND PUSHES  
EAST, STILL EXPECT GUSTS TO 20MPH THROUGH THE AFTERNOON, DIMINISHING  
AS THE EVENING PROGRESSES. INCREASED HIGH TEMPERATURES SLIGHTLY FOR  
TODAY WITH UPPER 60S TO NEAR 70 LIKELY FOR THE SOUTHERN HALF OF THE  
STATE AS AMPLE SUNSHINE HEATS THE BOUNDARY LAYER. HUMIDITY VALUES  
WILL CONTINUE TO DIMINISH AS DRY AIR IS ADVECTED IN AND DAYTIME  
MIXING TAKES PLACE. DEW POINTS HAVE ALREADY FALLEN ABOUT 10 DEGREES  
INTO THE LOW 50S AND WILL CONTINUE TO DROP ANOTHER 20-30 DEGREES  
THROUGH TOMORROW AS A MUCH COLDER AND DRIER AIRMASS MOVES IN.  
 
CLOUD COVER WILL BEGIN TO INCREASE AGAIN LATE TONIGHT AS A LARGE,  
COMPLEX UPPER LOW MOVES INTO THE UPPER MIDWEST AND GREAT LAKES  
REGION BY TOMORROW. CANNOT COMPLETELY RULE OUT A FEW SPRINKLES WITH  
A VORT LOBE SWINGING INTO THE AREA NEAR DAYBREAK WEDNESDAY, BUT  
FORECAST PROFILES SUGGEST THIS SHOULD HOLD OFF UNTIL NEAR OR JUST  
AFTER 12Z, AND WILL KEEP A DRY FORECAST THROUGHOUT TONIGHT.  
 
WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT...  
 
FIRST SNOWFALL OF THE SEASON FOR CENTRAL AND NORTH CENTRAL INDIANA  
 
THE MOST IMPACTFUL PORTION OF THE SHORT TO MID RANGE FORECAST WILL  
BE WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY NIGHT WHERE MUCH OF THE REGION  
WILL EXPERIENCE THE FIRST SNOWFLAKES AND COLDEST AIR OF THE SEASON.  
 
THE SET UP OVER THE NEXT 1-3 DAYS IS COMPLEX WITH AN UNUSUAL PATTERN  
SETTING UP, MAKING FOR A COMPLICATED FORECAST. A DEEP COMPLEX 525DM  
UPPER LOW MOVES FROM FARGO, ND TO AROUND CENTRAL PA WEDNESDAY  
MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT WITH MULTIPLE SHORTWAVES  
ROTATING ABOUT IT. COLD AIR ADVECTION THROUGH THE COLUMN ARRIVES  
WEDNESDAY AS THE FIRST VORT MAX, ASSOCIATED WITH THE TROUGH AXIS,  
PUSHES EAST THROUGH THE STATE. LIFT AHEAD OF THE VORT MAX COMBINED  
WITH STEEPENING LAPSE RATES AND SUFFICIENT MOISTURE SHOULD LEAD TO  
SCATTERED SHOWERS DURING THE MORNING HOURS WEDNESDAY. SURFACE  
TEMPERATURES WILL STRUGGLE TO GET OUT OF THE 40S WITH BRISK WNW  
WINDS GUSTING 20-30MPH STRONG COLD AIR ADVECTION USHERED IN BY A  
35KT LOW LEVEL JET. POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR GRAUPEL WITH SHOWERS  
WEDNESDAY MORNING, BUT THE PRIMARY P-TYPE WILL BE RAIN.  
 
A BRIEF DRY BREAK OCCURS MIDDAY WEDNESDAY BEFORE EVEN COLDER AIR  
ARRIVES WITH THE CHANCE FOR SNOW SHOWERS. THIS IS WHERE THE FORECAST  
BECOMES INTERESTING. A STRONG 120KT UPPER JET ROUNDS THE NEGATIVELY  
TILTED TROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING INDUCING SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS OVER  
THE THUMB OF MICHIGAN. GUIDANCE IS IN GOOD AGREEMENT WITH THIS LOW  
STRENGTHENING TO NEAR 990MB AS IT RETROGRADES AROUND MICHIGAN AND  
THEN HEADS SOUTHWARD DOWN THE EASTERN SHORE OF LAKE MICHIGAN ON  
THURSDAY. THE LOW IS EXPECTED TO REACH PEAK STRENGTH AROUND TRAVERSE  
CITY, THEN BECOMES STACKED AND BEGINS TO SLOWLY FILL AS COLD AIR  
ADVECTION WRAPS AROUND THE LOW. ON THE SOUTHSIDE OF THIS LOW, COLD  
AIR FROM CANADA WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT INTO INDIANA WITH 850MB  
TEMPERATURES REACHING -10C BY THURSDAY AFTERNOON. CYCLONIC FLOW  
AROUND THE LOW IN ADDITION TO MULTIPLE VORT MAXES ROTATING ABOUT IT  
WILL BRING MULTIPLE PERIODS OF SHOWERS AND SNOW SHOWERS TO THE  
REGION. FIRST ROUND OF RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS ARRIVES LATE WEDNESDAY  
NIGHT WITH THE BEST CHANCE FOR PRECIP ALONG AND NORTH OF THE I-74  
CORRIDOR. TEMPERATURES WILL BE MARGINAL FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW;  
HOWEVER FORECAST SOUNDINGS TO INDICATE ENOUGH OF A SATURATED LAYER  
WITHIN THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE TO SUPPORT SNOW SHOWERS. WARM  
GROUND TEMPERATURES SHOULD INHIBIT MUCH ACCUMULATION; HOWEVER A  
HEAVIER SNOW SHOWER COULD BRIEFLY COAT THE GROUND, ESPECIALLY IN  
NORTH CENTRAL INDIANA.  
 
THE AFOREMENTIONED LOW IN MICHIGAN TAKES A VERY UNIQUE TRACK DURING  
THE DAY THURSDAY, DOWN THE EASTERN SHORT OF LAKE MICHIGAN AND INTO  
INDIANA OR OHIO. THIS IS A VERY UNIQUE TRACK AND GUIDANCE HAS HAS A  
DIFFICULT TIME PIN POINTING ITS EXACT TRACK WITH SOME GUIDANCE  
BRINGING IT OVER INDIANAPOLIS AND SOME KEEPING IT FURTHER EAST  
TOWARD THE IN/OH BORDER. THIS WILL ULTIMATELY IMPACT WHERE THE  
HEAVIEST SNOW BAND SETS UP AHEAD OF THE LOW DROPPING SOUTH INTO THE  
AREA. THE TIME PERIOD TO WATCH FOR POTENTIAL ACCUMULATING SNOW IS  
LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO THURSDAY NIGHT AS THE LOW APPROACHES.  
 
ONE POTENTIAL CHALLENGE WITH THE FORECAST IS THE WARM LAKE WATERS OF  
LAKE MICHIGAN. GUIDANCE SHOWS A LONG FETCH OF NORTHERLY WINDS  
RUNNING DOWN LAKE MICHIGAN, ADDING MOISTURE AND WARMTH TO THE  
ENVIRONMENT. WHILE THIS COULD HELP INCREASE MOISTURE AND QPF  
LOCALLY, IT MAY WORK TO WARM THE LOWER TROPOSPHERE ENOUGH FOR A  
CHANGEOVER BACK TO RAIN. BUFKIT CROSS SECTIONAL PROFILES DO SHOW A  
RISING DGZ DURING THE EVENING AND OVERNIGHT HOURS, WITH THE DGZ  
DRYING OUT OVERNIGHT AS MOISTURE REMAINS IN THE LOWER LEVELS. THIS  
COULD BE A SCENARIO WHERE A BAND OF SNOW AHEAD OF THE LOW PUSHES  
SOUTH INTO INDIANA LATE THURSDAY AFTERNOON THEN CHANGES OVER TO  
LIGHT RAIN OR DRIZZLE OVERNIGHT. 1000-850MB HEIGHTS, LOW LEVEL  
TEMPERATURES, AND A SATURATED DGZ SUPPORT AN INITIAL P-TYPE OF SNOW,  
WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THE FORECAST. UNCERTAINTY LIES WITH HOW QUICK  
THE TRANSITION TO RAIN WILL BE. AS THE WARMER AIR FROM LAKE MICHIGAN  
PUSHES IN, THE POTENTIAL IS THERE FOR THE "WARM" AIR TO RISE UP AND  
OVER COLDER AIR AT THE SURFACE, LEADING TO ENHANCED LIFT AND  
FRONTOGENETICAL FORCING AND HEAVIER SNOW BANDS. IN THIS CASE,  
HEAVIER BANDS OF PRECIPITATION MAY KEEP THE COLUMN COOLER LONGER,  
LEADING TO A FEW INCHES OF SNOW ACCUMULATIONS FOR PORTIONS OF NORTH  
CENTRAL AND NORTH EAST INDIANA. IF SURFACE TEMPERATURES REMAIN  
MARGINAL IN THE 32-35 DEGREE RANGE, THERE MAY NOT BE MUCH  
ACCUMULATION. MESOSCALE PROCESSES, SNOWFALL RATES, AND SURFACE  
TEMPERATURES WILL GREATLY AFFECT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATIONS. CURRENTLY,  
HIGHEST CONFIDENCE IN ACCUMULATING SNOW OF AN INCH OR GREATER LIES  
FROM LAFAYETTE TO KOKOMO TO MUNCIE TO THE OHIO BORDER. CONFIDENCE IS  
MARGINAL IN ACCUMULATING SNOW FURTHER SOUTH ALONG THE I-70 CORRIDOR,  
INCLUDING THE INDIANAPOLIS METRO AREA. DO THINK INDIANAPOLIS WILL  
GET A PERIOD OF GOOD SNOW RATES LATE ON THURSDAY, BUT URBAN HEAT  
ISLAND EFFECTS, WARMER GROUNDS, AND A TRANSITION TO RAIN OVERNIGHT  
SHOULD LIMIT OVERALL ACCUMULATIONS. A DUSTING TO A TRACE OF SNOW IS  
LIKELY FURTHER SOUTH AND EAST.  
 
IN ADDITION TO FALLING SNOW, WINDS WILL BE QUITE GUSTY AS THIS LOW  
APPROACHES. BUFKIT SOUNDINGS AND GUIDANCE SHOW SUSTAINED WESTERLY  
WINDS OF 15-25MPH WITH GUSTS 25-35MPH THURSDAY LEADING TO WIND CHILL  
VALUES REMAINING IN THE TEENS AND LOWER 20S DURING THE DAY. IN  
ADDITION, WIND BLOWN SNOW MAY REDUCE VISIBILITY UNDER ANY SNOW  
SHOWER. SINCE THIS IS THE FIRST SNOW OF THE YEAR, TAKE EXTRA  
PRECAUTIONS WHILE TRAVELING EVEN IF ROADS ARE NOT SNOW COVERED.  
 
HIGHS WILL STRUGGLE TO GET OUT OF THE MID 30S FOR MANY AREAS. ONCE  
HEAVIER PRECIPITATION BEGINS LATER IN THE DAY FOR AREAS ACROSS THE  
NORTH, TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY FALL TO NEAR FREEZING. DO NOT EXPECT  
A NORMAL DIURNAL TEMPERATURE CURVE THURSDAY INTO FRIDAY MORNING AS  
THE AFOREMENTIONED AREA OF LOW PRESSURE MOVES THROUGH THE REGION.  
TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY REMAIN NEAR FREEZING AS IT SNOWS, THEN  
POTENTIALLY HOLD STEADY IN THE MID 30S OVERNIGHT AS PRECIPITATION  
ENDS.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM (WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY)  
 
ISSUED AT 304 PM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
FRIDAY -  
 
QUIETER AND COLD WEATHER IS EXPECTED TO ARRIVE ON FRIDAY. THE  
STRONG UPPER LOW ASSOCIATED WITH THE THURSDAY SYSTEM WILL HAVE  
DEPARTED TO EAST COAST. MEANWHILE MODELS SUGGEST STRONGER RIDGING  
BUILDING ACROSS THE HIGH PLAINS, LEADING TO THE ARRIVAL OF  
SUBSIDENCE AMID NORTHERLY FLOW ON FRIDAY. LOWER LEVEL CYCLONIC FLOW  
CONTINUES TO SHOW A FAVORABLE FETCH ACROSS LAKE MICHIGAN FOR  
POTENTIAL CLOUDS AND LAKE EFFECT SHOWERS ACROSS NORTHERN CENTRAL  
INDIANA THROUGH THE DAY. TRAJECTORIES SUGGEST AN INITIAL NORTHERLY  
FLOW, IMPACTING PLACES LIKE LAF AND CRW IN THE MORNING, SHIFTING TO  
BECOME MORE NORTHWESTERLY BY FRIDAY AFTERNOON. THIS WOULD CHANGE THE  
IMPACTS LOCATION TO PLACES FARTHER EAST, INCLUDING OKK, ANDERSON AND  
MUNCIE. FORECAST SOUNDINGS ON FRIDAY SUGGEST SATURATED LOWER LEVELS  
AMID ONGOING COLD AIR ADVECTION AND DRY AIR ALOFT. THUS A MOSTLY  
CLOUDY AND COLDER DAY WILL BE EXPECTED, WITH CHANCES FOR SHOWERS  
MAINLY ACROSS THE NORTHERN PARTS OF THE FORECAST AREA.  
 
SATURDAY THROUGH MONDAY -  
 
MODELS SUGGEST THE STRONG UPPER RIDGING BUILDING ACROSS THE PLAINS  
ON FRIDAY SLOWLY TRANSITIONS TO A MORE ZONAL FLOW THROUGH THE  
WEEKEND, WITH LITTLE IN WELL DEFINED FORCING DYNAMICS PASSING.  
MODELS DIFFER A BIT ON A COUPLE UPPER DISTURBANCES PASSING WITHIN  
THE FLOW ALOFT HERE, DIMINISHING CONFIDENCE IN ANY POTENTIAL  
PRECIPITATION POPS. FORECAST SOUNDINGS THROUGH THE WEEKEND MAINLY  
SUGGEST A DRY COLUMN WITH PERIODS WITH SHALLOW AREAS OF SATURATION,  
INDICATIVE OF JUST SOME PASSING CLOUDS WITHIN THE FLOW. THUS FOCUS  
WILL BE MAINLY FOR DRY WEATHER THIS WEEKEND, WITH A WARMING TREND,  
AS STRONGER WARM AIR ADVECTION BUILDS ACROSS INDIANA. HIGHS BY  
SUNDAY AND MONDAY SHOULD RECOVER INTO THE 50S AT MOST LOCATIONS.  
MODELS SUGGEST SOME PRECIP CHANCES DUE TO WARM AIR ADVECTION ALONE  
ON MONDAY, BUT WITH LITTLE IN THE WAY OF FORCING ALOFT. CONFIDENCE  
FOR RAIN HERE IS LOW.  
 
TUESDAY -  
 
THE BEST CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION DURING THE EXTENDED WILL BE ON  
TUESDAY. A WEAK WAVE ALOFT IS EXPECTED TO PASS AT THAT TIME, ALONG  
WITH AN ASSOCIATED PASSING LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM ACROSS CENTRAL  
INDIANA, OF THE PANHANDLE HOOK VARIETY. AT THIS TIME SUFFICIENT  
FORCING AND MOISTURE APPEAR PRESENT FOR POPS AND PRECIP TYPE WILL BE  
RAIN, AS LOWER LEVELS REMAIN QUITE WARM AFTER SOUTHERLY FLOW AND  
TIME IN THE WARM SECTOR AHEAD OF THIS SYSTEM.  
 
 
   
AVIATION (00Z TAF ISSUANCE)  
 
ISSUED AT 642 PM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
IMPACTS:  
 
- VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED THROUGH TONIGHT  
 
- MVFR CONDITIONS POSSIBLE ON WEDNESDAY MORNING  
 
- 20-28KT GUSTS POSSIBLE DURING THE DAY WEDNESDAY  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
VFR CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED THROUGH TONIGHT. A QUICK MOVING SYSTEM  
ARRIVES IN THE AREA ON WEDNESDAY MORNING. THIS WILL BRING A WAVE OF  
CLOUDS ARRIVING FROM THE NORTHWEST. MVFR CEILINGS ARE POSSIBLE AS  
THESE CLOUDS MOVE IN, ESPECIALLY NEAR KIND. MVFR CEILINGS ARE  
POSSIBLE NEAR KLAF/KBMG THOUGH CONFIDENCE IS LOWER.  
 
LOOK FOR RAIN SHOWERS TO ACCOMPANY THE FRONT BEFORE VFR CONDITIONS  
RETURN LATER IN THE DAY. THE BEST CHANCE FOR PRECIPITATION WILL BE  
NEAR KLAF/KIND. WINDS ARE CURRENTLY LIGHT AND OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST.  
LOOK FOR A WIND SHIFT TO 270-290 DEGREES THIS EVENING AS A WEAK  
FRONT MOVES THROUGH. WINDS WILL INCREASE DURING THE DAY WEDNESDAY  
WITH STRONG GUSTS AROUND 20-28KTS POSSIBLE.  
 
 
   
IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
NONE.  
 
 
 
 
UPDATE...MELO  
SHORT TERM...CM  
LONG TERM...PUMA  
AVIATION...MELO  
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