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FXUS63 KIND 201401  
AFDIND  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN  
901 AM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- RAIN THIS MORNING, BREEZY THIS AFTERNOON AND TONIGHT WITH FREQUENT  
GUSTS OF 25-35 MPH, LOCALLY HIGHER GUSTS POSSIBLE.  
 
- FIRST SNOW OF THE SEASON TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY WITH AS MUCH AS 1-3  
INCHES POSSIBLE ACROSS PORTIONS OF THE AREA; MINOR TRAVEL IMPACTS  
POSSIBLE  
 
- DRY WITH A WARMING TREND STARTING THIS WEEKEND.  
 
- RAIN CHANCES RETURN LATE MONDAY AND TUESDAY.  
 

 
   
FORECAST UPDATE
 
 
ISSUED AT 901 AM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
A LOCALIZED BAND OF HEAVIER PRECIPITATION WILL BE MOVING INTO THE  
INDY METRO AREA OVER THE NEXT HOUR WITH SPC MESOANALYSIS SHOWING  
THIS BAND BEING ASSOCIATED WITH A SMALLER SCALE FRONTOGENETICAL  
BAND. THERE MAY BE A BIT OF BRIGHT BANDING, BUT THE CC DROPOUT IS  
NOT QUITE AS LOW AS YOU'D TYPICALLY EXPECT.  
 
MADE A FEW UPWARD ADJUSTMENTS TO WIND GUSTS THROUGH 18Z AS THE  
ONGOING SHOWERS ARE HELPING ENHANCE THE DOWNWARD MIXING OF THE 30KT  
WINDS AT 2KFT. THIS HAS BROUGHT FREQUENT GUSTS TO 25 MPH AND GUSTS  
AS HIGH AS 35 MPH TO MUCH OF CENTRAL INDIANA. ALSO HAVE MADE A FEW  
MINOR ADJUSTMENTS TO THE POPS TO BETTER FINE TUNE THE ENDING OF  
PRECIPITATION WHICH NOW LOOKS TO BE CLOSER TO 17Z FOR ALL BUT THE  
FAR EASTERN COUNTIES. OTHERWISE THE FORECAST IS GENERALLY ON TRACK  
WITH TEMPERATURES CURRENTLY IN THE MID 40S ACROSS CENTRAL INDIANA.  
 

 
   
SHORT TERM (TODAY AND TONIGHT)
 
 
ISSUED AT 341 AM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
COUPLE OF ROUNDS OF PRECIPITATION EXPECTED TODAY INTO TONIGHT.  
 
A STRONG FRONTOGENETIC BAND AT THE LEADING EDGE OF THE INITIAL VORT  
LOBE ASSOCIATED WITH THE VERY STRONG UPPER LOW HEADED OUR WAY WILL  
SWEEP ACROSS THE AREA THIS MORNING. THIS FORCING FOR ASCENT IS  
PROMOTING DEVELOPMENT OF A BAND OF SHOWERS WHICH APPEARS POISED TO  
SWEEP ACROSS THE AREA IN ROUGHLY THE 6 AM TO NOON TIME FRAME THIS  
MORNING. THE AFOREMENTIONED STRONG FORCING FOR ASCENT WILL ALLOW  
RAINFALL RATES TO BE PRETTY SOLID, BUT THE LIMITED DURATION OF RAIN  
AT ANY ONE LOCATION WILL LIMIT TOTALS TO AROUND A TENTH TO QUARTER  
OF AN INCH OR SO, WITH THE HIGHEST TOTALS LIKELY IN THE  
NORTH/NORTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF THE FORECAST AREA.  
 
THIS RAIN WILL MOVE OUT, AND A DRY BUT QUITE BREEZY AFTERNOON IS  
EXPECTED ACROSS CENTRAL INDIANA. THOUGH SOME CLEARING AND RESULTANT  
INSOLATION IS EXPECTED, CONTINUED COLD ADVECTION WILL LIMIT DIURNAL  
WARMING, AND TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY TO STRUGGLE TO GET OUT OF THE  
40S ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA, EXCEPT PERHAPS THE SOUTHWESTERN  
FORECAST AREA, WHICH WILL BE THE FIRST TO SEE BREAKS OF SUN.  
 
SURFACE CYCLOGENESIS IS EXPECTED TO OCCUR NEAR OR JUST TO OUR EAST  
THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT ASSOCIATED WITH THE LEADING VORT MAX  
PIVOTING AROUND THE UPPER LOW, AND THE INTENSIFYING PRESSURE  
GRADIENT ALONG WITH DEEPENING BOUNDARY LAYER MIXING WILL PROMOTE  
GUSTY WINDS, PARTICULARLY THIS AFTERNOON INTO TONIGHT. GUSTS THIS  
AFTERNOON OF 30-35 MPH WILL BE COMMON, WITH ISOLATED HIGHER GUSTS  
POSSIBLE. GUSTS OVERNIGHT TONIGHT MAY BE MORE IN THE 20-25 MPH  
RANGE, ESPECIALLY EARLY, THOUGH SOME STRENGTHENING IS POSSIBLE LATE  
TO NEAR 30 MPH.  
 
EVEN MORE SUBSTANTIAL COLD ADVECTION WILL ARRIVE LATE TODAY INTO  
TONIGHT AS THE UPPER LOW CONTINUES TO SETTLE OVER THE GREAT LAKES  
AND OHIO VALLEY, AND THE RAPIDLY DEVELOPING SURFACE LOW PIVOTS OVER  
MICHIGAN THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT. FORECAST PROFILES SHOW DEVELOPMENT OF  
A FAIRLY WELL SATURATED AIRMASS OVERNIGHT TONIGHT, ALONG WITH STEEP  
LOW LEVEL LAPSE RATES AND INCREASING FORCING FOR ASCENT AS ANOTHER  
VORT LOBE PIVOTS AROUND THE LARGER UPPER LOW LATE THIS EVENING INTO  
TONIGHT. THIS, COUPLED WITH A DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE THAT MAY BE  
QUITE DEEP AT TIMES, COULD SET THE STAGE FOR SOME SUBSTANTIAL SNOW  
SHOWERS, PARTICULARLY LATE THIS EVENING INTO THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AS  
THE AFOREMENTIONED ASCENT INCREASES AND LOW LEVEL THERMAL PROFILES  
BECOME FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF SNOW. IT APPEARS LIKELY THAT ONE ROUND OF  
MODERATE SNOW SHOWERS WILL PUSH THROUGH THE AREA OVERNIGHT TONIGHT,  
WITH PERHAPS A BREAK NEAR DAYBREAK THURSDAY PRIOR TO A MORE  
SUBSTANTIAL ROUND TWO THURSDAY INTO THURSDAY EVENING AS THE SURFACE  
CYCLONE FULLY PIVOTS BACK INTO THE REGION.  
 
THESE EARLY SEASON SETUPS ARE ALWAYS INCREDIBLY TRICKY WHEN IT COMES  
TO ACCUMULATION, PARTICULARLY WHEN SURFACE TEMPERATURES WILL BE  
MARGINAL, AND WHEN THE GROUND HAS BEEN AS WARM AS IT HAS BEEN  
RECENTLY IN THE PROLONGED ABOVE NORMAL TEMPERATURE REGIME OF RECENT  
DAYS AND WEEKS. THAT SAID, RATES ARE OFTEN ABLE TO COMPENSATE FOR  
THIS EFFECT FASTER THAN MIGHT OTHERWISE BE EXPECTED, AND AT THE VERY  
LEAST, LIGHT ACCUMULATIONS ON GRASSY AND ELEVATED SURFACES APPEAR TO  
BE A GOOD BET TONIGHT, WITH SOME IMPACT TO ROADWAYS, PRIMARILY  
BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES, POSSIBLE, PARTICULARLY OVER NORTHERN  
PORTIONS OF THE AREA, WHERE SURFACE TEMPERATURES ARE MOST LIKELY TO  
DROP BELOW FREEZING FOR AT LEAST A FEW HOURS LATE TONIGHT INTO  
THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
ACROSS CENTRAL INDIANA, THE MOST LIKELY SCENARIO FOR TONIGHT IS A  
DUSTING TO PERHAPS A HALF INCH OR SO OF SNOWFALL BY DAYBREAK  
THURSDAY, AGAIN PRIMARILY ON GRASSY AND ELEVATED SURFACES, WITH SOME  
LIGHT COATING POSSIBLE ON BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES. THIS COULD HAVE  
MINOR IMPACTS TO THE THURSDAY MORNING COMMUTE, BEING THE FIRST  
SNOWFALL OF THE YOUNG SEASON.  
 

 
   
LONG TERM (THURSDAY THROUGH TUESDAY)
 
 
ISSUED AT 341 AM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
ACCUMULATING SNOW IS LIKELY FOR PORTIONS OF THE AREA ON THURSDAY  
WITH MINOR TRAVEL IMPACTS POSSIBLE. WE ALSO EXPECT THE COLDEST  
DAYTIME TEMPERATURES SINCE LAST MARCH ALONG WITH WINDY CONDITIONS  
CAUSING WIND CHILLS IN THE 20S. THE SYNOPTIC SETUP IS COMPLICATED  
BUT GOOD ALIGNMENT AND RUN-TO-RUN MODEL STABILITY MEANS THAT  
FORECAST UNCERTAINTIES ARE MAINLY CENTER AROUND THE SENSITIVITY OF A  
MARGINAL TEMPERATURE SCENARIO. METEOROLOGICAL DETAILS AND FORECAST  
UNCERTAINTIES ARE COVERED BELOW.  
 
TWO DISTINCT VORTICITY MAXIMA ARE MODELED WITHIN THE BROAD DEEP  
OCCLUDED LOW OVER OUR REGION. THE FIRST WILL MOVE SOUTH OF US DURING  
THE MORNING, BRINGING A DECREASE IN A DEEPER ASCENT-DRIVEN  
PRECIPITATION SCENARIO. SNOW SHOWERS SHOULD SHIFT SOUTHEAST OF THE  
AREA. HOWEVER, LOWER TROPOSPHERIC MOISTURE REMAINS, ALONG WITH  
STEEPENING LAPSE RATES. DESPITE TEMPORARILY DRYING MIDLEVELS,  
SHALLOW CONVECTIVE PRECIPITATION MAY CONTINUE INTO THE LATE  
MORNING/MIDDAY TIME FRAME ALBEIT RESULTING IN MINIMAL AMOUNTS.  
POTENTIAL LOSS OF ICE DUE TO BRIEF DRYING OF MIDLEVELS (CRITICAL  
TEMPERATURE LAYER FOR ICE CRYSTAL GROWTH) MAKES PRECIPITATION TYPE  
DURING THIS PERIOD A LITTLE UNCERTAIN. ONLY MODEST HEATING WILL  
OCCUR DURING THIS TIME FRAME OWING TO ONGOING COLD ADVECTION.  
TEMPERATURES LIKELY WILL PEAK ONLY IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S.  
 
THE SECOND (AND MORE INTENSE) VORT MAX/PV ANOMALY IS MODELED TO  
PROGRESS SOUTHWARD ACROSS THE AREA DURING THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING  
AND WILL BE ACCOMPANIED BY INCREASING FORCING FOR ASCENT AND DEEP  
MOISTENING. ROUGHLY A 6-HOUR PERIOD OF PRECIPITATION IS LIKELY, WITH  
LINGERING LIGHTER PRECIPITATION CONTINUING THEREAFTER. HREF MEMBERS  
AND GLOBAL MODELS HAVE ALL CLUSTERED ON AROUND 0.25" QPF OR SLIGHTLY  
MORE. TEMPERATURES MAY INITIALLY RISE ENOUGH TO BE MARGINAL FOR  
RAIN/SNOW FOR AT LEAST PORTIONS OF THE AREA, BUT IT APPEARS THE  
LOWER TROPOSPHERE WILL BE DRY ENOUGH FOR DIABATIC EFFECTS TO RESULT  
IN SNOW BEING DOMINANT. HIGHER LOW LEVEL MOISTURE FROM REMNANT WARM  
CONVEYOR BELT WRAPPING ALL THE WAY AROUND THE LOW, AND POTENTIALLY  
AUGMENTED SOME BY THE GREAT LAKES, LOOKS TO REACH OUR AREA AFTER THE  
MAIN AREA OF PRECIPITATION DEPARTS DURING THE EVENING. EVEN IF  
RISING DEW POINTS AND LESS POTENTIAL FOR WET BULB/DIABATIC PROCESSES  
TO FAVOR SNOW, LOSS OF ICE DUE TO MIDLEVEL DRYING MAY CAUSE A  
TRANSITION BACK TO RAIN WITH LINGERING PRECIPITATION LATE EVENING OR  
OVERNIGHT.  
 
USING THIS A CLIMATOLOGICAL SNOW-LIQUID RATIO AND EXCLUDE  
MELTING FROM WARM ANTECEDENT CONDITIONS, THIS WOULD YIELD AROUND 2.5-  
3" OF SNOW ALONG THE QPF MAXIMA ACROSS NORTHERN PORTIONS OF CENTRAL  
INDIANA. HOWEVER, IT APPEARS THAT THE BEST ALIGNMENT OF ASCENT AND  
MOISTURE WITHIN THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE FOR ~10-12:1 SLR WILL BE  
RELATIVELY BRIEF, AND WE'VE ALSO ARTIFICIALLY LOWERED THESE TO  
ACCOUNT FOR SOME ANTECEDENT WARM CONDITIONS AND AT LEAST SOME  
INITIAL MELTING. IT DOES APPEAR THAT RATES AND DURATION OF THE SNOW  
IN COMBINATION WITH ONGOING COLD ADVECTION WILL BE ENOUGH TO  
OVERCOME THE WARM GROUND AND MELTING TO SOME EXTENT. SO, SOME SLICK  
CONDITIONS ON BRIDGES, OVERPASSES, AND LESS TRAVELED ROADS WILL BE  
POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WHERE SNOWFALL RATES ARE THE HIGHEST. WARM  
GROUND INFLUENCE MAY BE MORE NOTICEABLE ON THE FRINGES OF THE CORE  
OF THE PRECIPITATION AND WHERE TEMPERATURES ARE MORE MARGINAL,  
ACROSS WEST-CENTRAL INTO SOUTHERN INDIANA.  
 
REMNANT LOWER TROPOSPHERIC MOISTURE, STEEP LAPSE RATES, AND CYCLONIC  
LOW-LEVEL FLOW MAY RESULT IN SOME CONVECTIVE PRECIPITATION  
ESPECIALLY ACROSS THE NORTHEAST HALF OF THE AREA FRIDAY.  
TEMPERATURES SHOULD WARM SUFFICIENTLY FOR THESE TO BE RAIN SHOWERS.  
STRATUS APPEARS LIKELY INTO AT LEAST EARLY SATURDAY, AT WHICH TIME  
LOW AMPLITUDE MEAN RIDGING BUILDS IN AND A WARMING TREND  
ACCELERATES. RAIN CHANCES WILL INCREASE EARLY NEXT WEEK AS AT LEAST  
THE FRINGE OF DEEPER SUBTROPICAL MOISTURE PLUME AND FORCING FROM ONE  
OR MORE LOW AMPLITUDE SHORTWAVE TROUGHS ALIGN OVER OUR REGION. THE  
BETTER PRECIPITATION COVERAGE WILL PROBABLY BE RELEGATED TO DEEPER  
WITHIN THE MOISTURE PLUME NEAR/SOUTH OF THE OHIO RIVER.  
 
THE DAY 8-14 PERIOD LOOKS TO FEATURE WARM/COOL PERIODS AVERAGING TO  
NEAR NORMAL, AND PERIODIC PRECIPITATION CHANCES, BUT NO SIGNAL FOR  
SIGNIFICANT WEATHER HAZARDS AT THIS TIME.  
 

 
   
AVIATION (12Z TAF ISSUANCE)
 
 
ISSUED AT 631 AM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
IMPACTS:  
 
- PERIOD OF RAIN SHOWERS THIS MORNING WITH OCCASIONAL MVFR CEILINGS  
 
- WIND GUSTS AROUND 20-27KT FROM MID MORNING ONWARD  
 
- ADDITIONAL MVFR CONDITIONS IN RAIN SHOWERS CHANGING TO SNOW  
SHOWERS LATE TONIGHT  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
AN AREA OF SHOWERS WILL MOVE QUICKLY ACROSS THE SITES THIS MORNING,  
WITH OCCASIONAL MVFR CEILINGS AND POSSIBLY BRIEF VISIBILITY  
REDUCTIONS FOR A FEW HOURS THIS MORNING. THESE SHOWERS SHOULD CLEAR  
THE SITES BY 15-16Z, WITH VFR CONDITIONS RETURNING. SOME CLEARING  
WILL OCCUR AS THE AFTERNOON WEARS ON.  
 
WINDS WILL PICK UP AROUND THE SAME TIME, WITH GUSTS, GENERALLY  
WESTERLY OR WEST/NORTHWESTERLY, THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE TAF  
PERIOD, AROUND 20-27KT, WITH SUSTAINED WINDS 10-17KT.  
 
CLOUDS WILL INCREASE AGAIN THIS EVENING INTO TONIGHT, WITH SHOWERS  
RETURNING - POTENTIALLY BEGINNING AS RAIN OR A MIX, AND  
TRANSITIONING TO ALL SNOW AS THE NIGHT GOES ON. THESE SHOWERS ARE  
MOST LIKELY AT IND/LAF, AND WILL BE INCLUDED THERE. CEILINGS AND  
POTENTIALLY VISIBILITIES WILL FALL BACK TO MVFR WITH THESE SHOWERS.  
 

 
   
IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
NONE.  

 
 

 
 
UPDATE...WHITE  
SHORT TERM...NIELD  
LONG TERM...BRB  
AVIATION...NIELD  
 
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