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FXUS63 KIND 081903
AFDIND
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN
303 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025
KEY MESSAGES
- FROST ADVISORY TONIGHT ACROSS OUR NORTHERN COUNTIES.
- PATCHY FROST TONIGHT AND THURSDAY NIGHTS WITH LOWS IN THE MID TO
UPPER 30S.
- DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED THROUGH AT LEAST TUESDAY, WITH GRADUALLY
WARMING TEMPERATURES.
SHORT TERM (THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY)
ISSUED AT 303 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025
LARGE-SCALE UPPER-LEVEL TROUGHING AND STRONG SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE
WILL BRING SOME OF THE COOLEST NIGHTS OF THE SEASON SO FAR. SURFACE
ANALYSIS SHOWS NORTHERLY FLOW AND COLD AIR ADVECTION TODAY
ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADVANCING 1032MB HIGH. CONTINUED COLD AIR
ADVECTION IS EXPECTED AS WE HEAD INTO TONIGHT.
BY SUNSET, THE SURFACE HIGH CENTER SHOULD BE LOCATED ROUGHLY OVER
MICHIGAN. SINCE THE HIGH IS STILL A BIT TO OUR NORTH, WE'LL HAVE A
NORTHERLY BREEZE THROUGH THE NIGHT. THEREFORE, RADIATIONAL COOLING
POTENTIAL MAY NOT BE FULLY REALIZED. STILL, COLD AIR ADVECTION IS
STRONG ENOUGH AND THE WINDS LIGHT ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR LOWS IN THE
MID TO UPPER 30S ACROSS OUR NORTH. SLIGHTLY WARMER VALUES WILL BE
FOUND ELSEWHERE WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER 30S TO LOW 40S. SOME WIND-
SHELTERED AREAS MAY SEE SOME PATCHY FROST TONIGHT. WE'VE ADDED FROST
TO THE FORECAST ACROSS OUR NORTHERN TIER COUNTIES FROM LAFAYETTE TO
KOKOMO TO MUNCIE. GIVEN THAT IT MAY BE THE FIRST FROST OF THE SEASON
FOR MANY OF THESE PLACES, A FROST ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED WITH THIS
FORECAST UPDATE.
AS FOR HIGHS, FULL SUN, DRY AIR, AND RELATIVELY LIGHT WINDS WILL
ALLOW FOR A LARGE DIURNAL SPREAD. TEMPERATURES MAY TEND TOWARDS THE
HIGHER END OF GUIDANCE AND DEW POINTS MAY END UP NEAR THE BOTTOM.
WE'LL ADD MORE WEIGHT TO HIGH-RES GUIDANCE AND MOS FOR TEMPERATURES
THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST PERIOD. EXPECT HIGHS IN THE UPPER 60S TO
NEAR 70 ON THURSDAY.
LONG TERM (THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY)
ISSUED AT 303 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025
CONTINENTAL AIR MASSES WITH GOOD RADIATIVE CONDITIONS THIS TIME OF
YEAR OFTEN HAVE A HIGH TEMPERATURE BIAS IN MODELS. FOR LOW
TEMPERATURES THURSDAY NIGHT, WE USED 10TH PERCENTILE BLENDED
GUIDANCE TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS, AND ALSO NUDGED TOWARD NAM 3-KM FOR
BETTER TERRAIN REPRESENTATION. STRONG SUBSIDENCE AND SHALLOW
INVERSION IN MODEL SOUNDINGS IS A CLASSIC DEW/FROST SETUP, WITH
SUPPORTIVE TEMPERATURE FOR FROST ACROSS ROUGHLY THE NORTHERN HALF. A
FEW OUTLING AREAS COULD REACH FREEZING. URBAN AREAS ARE LESS AT RISK
FOR FROST AND FOR NOW WILL NOT INCLUDE FROST FOR THE CORE OF
INDIANAPOLIS. ONE CAVEAT MAY BE CIRRUS PRECEDING AN UPSTREAM
MIDLEVEL WAVE, BUT CURRENT TIMING APPEARS TO HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT TO
THE RADIATIVE COOLING PROCESS OTHER THAN PERHAPS SLOWING IT SLIGHTLY
TOWARD SUNRISE.
WEAK THERMAL RIDGING PRECEDING THE UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL
BRING OUR TEMPERATURES BACK TO AROUND NORMAL FRIDAY. THERE HAS BEEN
A TREND OF THIS WAVE CLOSING/DEEPENING OVER THE GREAT LAKES FRIDAY A
LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIALLY THAN EARLIER MODEL CYCLES, AND THEN
DRIFTING SOUTH BEFORE DAMPENING. THIS MAY NUDGE A COOLER AIR MASS A
LITTLE DEEPER INTO INDIANA THIS WEEKEND WHICH COULD SLIGHTLY COUNTER
WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE AN OVERALL WARMING TREND. THIS MAY BE
ESPECIALLY TRUE IF POST-FRONTAL STRATUS IS EXTENSIVE. THERE MAY BE
ENOUGH ASCENT AND MIDLEVEL MOISTURE FOR LOW COVERAGE / LOW QPF
SHOWERS, LATE FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY DEPENDING ON THE BEHAVIOR OF THE
AFOREMENTIONED MIDLEVEL WAVE. AT THIS TIME, PROBABILITIES OF
MEASURABLE RAINFALL AMOUNTS ARE <20 PERCENT.
NEXT WEEK, MODERATE-STRONGLY POSITIVE MIDLEVEL HEIGHTS FROM BUILDING
RIDGING WILL RESULT IN +5-10 DEGREE TEMPERATURE ANOMALIES. A PLUME
OF HIGH-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL MOISTURE FROM THE EAST PACIFIC AND LOWER
TROPOSPHERIC MOISTURE RETURNING ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE RIDGE
WILL BRING PRECIPITABLE WATER TO ABOVE CLIMATOLOGY. FORCING IS
MINIMAL, HOWEVER. MINOR PERTURBATIONS AT THE PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE
IS RESULTING IN A LIGHT QPF SIGNAL IN MANY ENSEMBLE MEMBERS, BUT
OVERALL RAINFALL PROBABILITIES AND AMOUNTS WILL BE MINIMAL NEXT
WEEK.
FOR THE DAY 8-14 PERIOD, EARLY INDICATIONS IN THE MEDIUM-RANGE
ENSEMBLES IS FOR THE RIDGE OF DEAMPLIFY AND/OR RETROGRADE SOME WITH
A MORE ACTIVE SYNOPTIC FLOW POTENTIALLY LEADING TO SOME MODERATION
IN TEMPERATURES BUT PROBABLY STILL ABOVE NORMAL. PRECIPITATION
SIGNAL IS NEAR AVERAGE IN THIS PATTERN.
AVIATION (18Z TAF ISSUANCE)
ISSUED AT 1241 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025
IMPACTS:
-NONE
DISCUSSION:
A STEADY N/NE WIND BETWEEN 7-10KT HAS DEVELOPED THIS AFTERNOON AND
SHOULD CONTINUE UNTIL DUSK. WINDS WILL GRADUALLY SHIFT TOWARDS THE E
AS THE SURFACE HIGH BUILDS TO THE NORTH.
GENERALLY CLEAR SKIES ARE EXPECTED THROUGH THE TAF PERIOD OUTSIDE OF
PATCHES OF DIURNAL CU AROUND 6000FT THIS AFTERNOON.
THERE IS A NON-ZERO CHANCE OF PATCHY GROUND FOG AT KLAF AND KHUF
TOMORROW MORNING, BUT GIVEN DECREASING DEW POINTS WINDS STAYING
ABOVE 3KT THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT, ANY FOG THAT DOES DEVELOP SHOULD BE
VERY ISOLATED AND SO IS NOT MENTIONED IN THE TAF.
IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
FROST ADVISORY FROM 5 AM TO 9 AM EDT THURSDAY FOR INZ021-028>031-
035-038>042.
SHORT TERM...ECKHOFF
LONG TERM...BRB
AVIATION...UPDIKE
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