886  
FXUS63 KIND 090139  
AFDIND  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE INDIANAPOLIS IN  
939 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- FROST ADVISORY TONIGHT ACROSS OUR NORTHERN COUNTIES.  
 
- PATCHY FROST TONIGHT AND THURSDAY NIGHTS WITH LOWS IN THE MID TO  
UPPER 30S.  
 
- DRY WEATHER IS EXPECTED THROUGH AT LEAST TUESDAY, WITH GRADUALLY  
WARMING TEMPERATURES.  
 
 
   
FORECAST UPDATE  
 
ISSUED AT 939 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025  
 
HIGH PRESSURE IS PROVIDING CLEAR SKIES THIS EVENING. TEMPERATURES  
WERE COOLING AS EXPECTED WITH LOSS OF HEATING, BUT WINDS HAVE  
REMAINED UP, KEEPING THE TEMPERATURES FROM PLUMMETING.  
 
WINDS WILL DIMINISH SOME BUT NOT GO CALM MANY AREAS WITH THE CENTER  
OF THE HIGH REMAINING NORTH OF THE AREA. THIS WILL KEEP LOW  
TEMPERATURES FROM REACHING THEIR COLDEST POTENTIAL.  
 
SOME FROST STILL LOOKS LIKELY ACROSS THE NORTH, ESPECIALLY IN  
SHELTERED AND FAVORED COLD AREAS. BASED ON LATEST MODEL TEMPERATURE  
PROBABILITIES AND OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS, WENT AHEAD AND ADDED  
MONTGOMERY AND BOONE COUNTIES TO THE FROST ADVISORY.  
 
TWEAKED LOW TEMPERATURES FOR FAVORED COLD AREAS, AND ADJUSTED HOURLY  
FORECASTS TO MATCH OBSERVATIONAL TRENDS.  
 
 
   
SHORT TERM (THIS EVENING THROUGH THURSDAY)  
 
ISSUED AT 303 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025  
 
LARGE-SCALE UPPER-LEVEL TROUGHING AND STRONG SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE  
WILL BRING SOME OF THE COOLEST NIGHTS OF THE SEASON SO FAR. SURFACE  
ANALYSIS SHOWS NORTHERLY FLOW AND COLD AIR ADVECTION TODAY  
ASSOCIATED WITH THE ADVANCING 1032MB HIGH. CONTINUED COLD AIR  
ADVECTION IS EXPECTED AS WE HEAD INTO TONIGHT.  
 
BY SUNSET, THE SURFACE HIGH CENTER SHOULD BE LOCATED ROUGHLY OVER  
MICHIGAN. SINCE THE HIGH IS STILL A BIT TO OUR NORTH, WE'LL HAVE A  
NORTHERLY BREEZE THROUGH THE NIGHT. THEREFORE, RADIATIONAL COOLING  
POTENTIAL MAY NOT BE FULLY REALIZED. STILL, COLD AIR ADVECTION IS  
STRONG ENOUGH AND THE WINDS LIGHT ENOUGH TO ALLOW FOR LOWS IN THE  
MID TO UPPER 30S ACROSS OUR NORTH. SLIGHTLY WARMER VALUES WILL BE  
FOUND ELSEWHERE WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER 30S TO LOW 40S. SOME WIND-  
SHELTERED AREAS MAY SEE SOME PATCHY FROST TONIGHT. WE'VE ADDED FROST  
TO THE FORECAST ACROSS OUR NORTHERN TIER COUNTIES FROM LAFAYETTE TO  
KOKOMO TO MUNCIE. GIVEN THAT IT MAY BE THE FIRST FROST OF THE SEASON  
FOR MANY OF THESE PLACES, A FROST ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED WITH THIS  
FORECAST UPDATE.  
 
AS FOR HIGHS, FULL SUN, DRY AIR, AND RELATIVELY LIGHT WINDS WILL  
ALLOW FOR A LARGE DIURNAL SPREAD. TEMPERATURES MAY TEND TOWARDS THE  
HIGHER END OF GUIDANCE AND DEW POINTS MAY END UP NEAR THE BOTTOM.  
WE'LL ADD MORE WEIGHT TO HIGH-RES GUIDANCE AND MOS FOR TEMPERATURES  
THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST PERIOD. EXPECT HIGHS IN THE UPPER 60S TO  
NEAR 70 ON THURSDAY.  
 
 
   
LONG TERM (THURSDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY)  
 
ISSUED AT 303 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025  
 
CONTINENTAL AIR MASSES WITH GOOD RADIATIVE CONDITIONS THIS TIME OF  
YEAR OFTEN HAVE A HIGH TEMPERATURE BIAS IN MODELS. FOR LOW  
TEMPERATURES THURSDAY NIGHT, WE USED 10TH PERCENTILE BLENDED  
GUIDANCE TO ACCOUNT FOR THIS, AND ALSO NUDGED TOWARD NAM 3-KM FOR  
BETTER TERRAIN REPRESENTATION. STRONG SUBSIDENCE AND SHALLOW  
INVERSION IN MODEL SOUNDINGS IS A CLASSIC DEW/FROST SETUP, WITH  
SUPPORTIVE TEMPERATURE FOR FROST ACROSS ROUGHLY THE NORTHERN HALF. A  
FEW OUTLYING AREAS COULD REACH FREEZING. URBAN AREAS ARE LESS AT  
RISK FOR FROST AND FOR NOW WILL NOT INCLUDE FROST FOR THE CORE OF  
INDIANAPOLIS. ONE CAVEAT MAY BE CIRRUS PRECEDING AN UPSTREAM  
MIDLEVEL WAVE, BUT CURRENT TIMING APPEARS TO HAVE MINIMAL IMPACT  
TO THE RADIATIVE COOLING PROCESS OTHER THAN PERHAPS SLOWING IT  
SLIGHTLY TOWARD SUNRISE.  
 
WEAK THERMAL RIDGING PRECEDING THE UPSTREAM SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL  
BRING OUR TEMPERATURES BACK TO AROUND NORMAL FRIDAY. THERE HAS BEEN  
A TREND OF THIS WAVE CLOSING/DEEPENING OVER THE GREAT LAKES FRIDAY A  
LITTLE MORE SUBSTANTIALLY THAN EARLIER MODEL CYCLES, AND THEN  
DRIFTING SOUTH BEFORE DAMPENING. THIS MAY NUDGE A COOLER AIR MASS A  
LITTLE DEEPER INTO INDIANA THIS WEEKEND WHICH COULD SLIGHTLY COUNTER  
WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE AN OVERALL WARMING TREND. THIS MAY BE  
ESPECIALLY TRUE IF POST-FRONTAL STRATUS IS EXTENSIVE. THERE MAY BE  
ENOUGH ASCENT AND MIDLEVEL MOISTURE FOR LOW COVERAGE / LOW QPF  
SHOWERS, LATE FRIDAY INTO SATURDAY DEPENDING ON THE BEHAVIOR OF THE  
AFOREMENTIONED MIDLEVEL WAVE. AT THIS TIME, PROBABILITIES OF  
MEASURABLE RAINFALL AMOUNTS ARE <20 PERCENT.  
 
NEXT WEEK, MODERATE-STRONGLY POSITIVE MIDLEVEL HEIGHTS FROM BUILDING  
RIDGING WILL RESULT IN +5-10 DEGREE TEMPERATURE ANOMALIES. A PLUME  
OF HIGH-LEVEL SUBTROPICAL MOISTURE FROM THE EAST PACIFIC AND LOWER  
TROPOSPHERIC MOISTURE RETURNING ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF THE RIDGE  
WILL BRING PRECIPITABLE WATER TO ABOVE CLIMATOLOGY. FORCING IS  
MINIMAL, HOWEVER. MINOR PERTURBATIONS AT THE PERIPHERY OF THE RIDGE  
IS RESULTING IN A LIGHT QPF SIGNAL IN MANY ENSEMBLE MEMBERS, BUT  
OVERALL RAINFALL PROBABILITIES AND AMOUNTS WILL BE MINIMAL NEXT  
WEEK.  
 
FOR THE DAY 8-14 PERIOD, EARLY INDICATIONS IN THE MEDIUM-RANGE  
ENSEMBLES IS FOR THE RIDGE OF DEAMPLIFY AND/OR RETROGRADE SOME WITH  
A MORE ACTIVE SYNOPTIC FLOW POTENTIALLY LEADING TO SOME MODERATION  
IN TEMPERATURES BUT PROBABLY STILL ABOVE NORMAL. PRECIPITATION  
SIGNAL IS NEAR AVERAGE IN THIS PATTERN.  
 
 
   
AVIATION (00Z TAF ISSUANCE)  
 
ISSUED AT 654 PM EDT WED OCT 8 2025  
 
IMPACTS:  
 
- NONE  
 
DISCUSSION:  
 
WINDS WILL GENERALLY REMAIN NEAR OR BELOW 10KT AND GRADUALLY VEER TO  
THE EAST DURING THE PERIOD.  
 
SKIES WILL REMAIN MOSTLY CLEAR, WITH PERHAPS A FEW CUMULUS THURSDAY.  
 
THERE REMAINS A NON-ZERO CHANCE OF PATCHY GROUND FOG AT ALL BUT KIND  
NEAR SUNRISE, BUT WITH SOME LIGHT WINDS STILL AROUND AND DRIER AIR  
IN PLACE, ODDS CONTINUE TO BE TOO LOW TO MENTION IN THE TAFS.  
 
 
   
IND WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
FROST ADVISORY FROM 5 AM TO 9 AM EDT THURSDAY FOR INZ021-028>031-  
035>042.  
 
 
 
 
 
UPDATE...50  
SHORT TERM...ECKHOFF  
LONG TERM...BRB  
AVIATION...50  
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