468  
FXUS63 KIWX 190535  
AFDIWX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA  
1235 AM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- RAIN CHANCES PERSIST THROUGH LATE TUESDAY MORNING.  
 
- HIGHS IN THE 60S TUESDAY WILL BE QUICKLY REPLACED BY MUCH  
COOLER TEMPERATURES IN THE 30S AND 40S BY THURSDAY.  
 
- WHILE SOME SNOW MAY OCCUR BETWEEN WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND THURSDAY  
NIGHT, ACCUMULATIONS ON PAVEMENT ARE NOT EXPECTED.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 223 PM EST MON NOV 18 2024  
 
AN UPPER LOW PRESSURE DEPARTS, CLEARING A SPOT FOR ANOTHER UPPER LOW  
NEAR MEXICO TO START MOVING NORTHEASTWARD AS HELPED ALONG BY A  
TROUGH ENTERING THE WESTERN US. FROM THIS AFTERNOON TO TUESDAY  
MORNING, THE AREA WILL BE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THIS LOW PRESSURE  
SYSTEM AND WILL PROVIDE CHANCES FOR RAIN. FIRST FROM THE WARM  
ADVECTION WING MOVING THROUGH MIDDAY THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. THIS MAY  
PROVIDE UP TO AROUND A TENTH OF RAIN TO THE AREA WEST OF US-31,  
TAPERING OFF AS YOU GO EAST. AFTER A BRIEF BREAK FROM DRY AIR  
ADVECTION THIS EVENING, RAIN LOOKS TO MOVE BACK INTO THE AREA AGAIN  
AFTER MIDNIGHT AND CONTINUE INTO TUESDAY MORNING AS A COLD FRONT  
MOVES EASTWARD THROUGH THE AREA. THERE IS AROUND 500 J/KG OF MUCAPE  
TO WORK WITH SO THERE MAY BE SOME RUMBLES OF THUNDER WEST OF IN-15,  
BUT THAT CHANCE LOOKS TO DISSIPATE AS YOU MOVE EASTWARD WITH THE  
CAPE DIMINISHING. THIS MAY PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL 1/4 INCH OR SO OF  
QPF ENDING BY AROUND MIDDAY. EXPECT A BREEZY DAY TUESDAY WITH 20 TO  
30 MPH GUSTS LIKELY.  
 
THEN, AS THE ARRIVING WESTERN US TROUGH INTERACTS WITH THE  
AFOREMENTIONED UPPER LOW, THE TWO ACTUALLY COMBINE INTO A STRONG  
UPPER LOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS. A STRONG SHORTWAVE IS THEN  
ABLE TO MOVE EASTWARD TOWARD THE AREA EARLY WEDNESDAY MORNING. THE  
NAM AND GFS CREATE A DEVELOPMENT OUT IN FRONT THIS SHORTWAVE SO  
WILL CREATE SOME POPS TO HANDLE THAT PERIOD. INITIAL  
PRECIPITATION TYPE IS RAIN SINCE THE LOW IS NOT ABLE TO WRAP IN  
COLD AIR YET. THE HANDLING OF THIS SURFACE LOW STILL IS BOUNCING  
BACK IN FORTH BETWEEN MODEL RUNS ON WHETHER TO HAVE IT OR NOT.  
 
THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE COLD AIR INTO THE FORECAST IS  
WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THIS IS AS THE STRONG SHORTWAVE DISCUSSED FOR  
WEDNESDAY AM DEPARTS EASTWARD, A SECOND VORT MAX DROPS SOUTHWARD  
FROM THE NORTHERN PLAINS AND A SPOKE OF VORTICITY WITHIN THE UPPER  
LOW TAKES A TRAJECTORY CLOSE TO LAKE MI. 20 DEGREE DELTA T VALUES  
BETWEEN THE LOW 50S LAKE TEMPERATURES AND THE ARRIVING AIR MASS AND  
INVERSION HEIGHTS UP TO 700 MB ALONG WITH LOW LEVEL WIND  
CONVERGENCE, NEGATIVE LOW LEVEL THETA-E INSTABILITY, AND TIMES OF  
LOW LEVEL MOISTURE MAY MAKE IT CONDUCIVE TO CREATING LAKE ENHANCED  
PRECIPITATION. ALTHOUGH THAT LEVEL LOW LEVEL DRYNESS LIKELY CUTS  
INTO HOW MUCH OF IT REACHES THE GROUND. THERMAL PROFILES DO APPEAR  
TO BE CONDUCIVE TO SNOW MIXING IN OR EVEN BEING PREDOMINANT AT TIMES  
LATER WEDNESDAY NIGHT. SNOW SHOWERS DO LOOK TO CONTINUE AT TIMES  
DURING THE DAY THURSDAY AND HIGH TEMPERATURES WILL STRUGGLE TO  
EXCEED THE MID 30S AS A RESULT. AT CURRENT, THINK THE RATES ARE WEAK  
ENOUGH THAT THE WARM PAVEMENT WILL NOT BE OVERCOME SO ANY RESULTANT  
ACCUMS WILL BE LESS THAN 1 INCH AND MAINLY RELEGATED TO GRASSY  
AREAS.  
 
WITH THE UPPER LOW NOW IN THE VICINITY OF PA LATER THURSDAY, AN  
INSTABILITY TROUGH MOVES SOUTHWARD ACROSS MICHIGAN AND THIS MAY  
INTRODUCE SOME ADDITIONAL SHOWERS ACROSS THE AREA LATER THURSDAY. IT  
APPEARS THIS WOULD BE WRAPPING WARMER AIR AROUND, BUT THE INITIAL  
SURGE OF THE BOUNDARY MAY COME THROUGH IN TIME TO HAVE SNOW IF A  
SURFACE LOW FORMS ALONG THE BOUNDARY OR GRAUPEL IF JUST AN  
INSTABILITY TROUGH ITSELF MOVES SOUTHWARD. SOME UNCERTAINTY EXISTS  
WITH THE STRENGTH OF THIS TROUGH AS THIS IS THE FIRST RUN THAT  
MODELS HAVE CONVERGED ON FORMING A SURFACE LOW ON IT. DISAGREEMENT  
IN PREVIOUS RUNS EXISTED WITH THIS TYPE OF SOLUTION. PERHAPS THE  
WARM LAKES ARE INFLUENCING THIS TYPE OF SOLUTION.  
 
THE COLDEST OF THE AIR DEPARTS THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY TAKING  
WITH IT THE COOLER, MORE SNOW-CONDUCIVE AIRMASS. LOW CLOUDS AND LAKE  
ENHANCED PRECIPITATION MAY CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY INTO EARLY  
SATURDAY BEFORE THE ABOVE-ZERO 850 MB TEMPERATURES BEGIN SHIFTING  
NORTHWARD INTO THE AREA.  
 
BEYOND SATURDAY, BLOCKING BEGINS TO FORMULATE ACROSS THE  
NORTHEASTERN US AND EASTERN CANADA CREATING ALMOST ZONAL FLOW ACROSS  
THE CONUS, WHICH MAY ACT TO SUPPRESS ANY SYSTEMS. THERE IS MODEL  
SUPPORT FOR ANOTHER SYSTEM BETWEEN SUNDAY NIGHT AND MONDAY.  
 
 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 06Z WEDNESDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1235 AM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
SURFACE WARM FRONT IS CURRENTLY JUST NORTH OF THE TERMINALS  
WITH LOW MVFR STILL HOLDING AT KSBN. EXPECT THIS TO SCATTER OUT  
BRIEFLY DURING THE NEXT FEW HOURS BEFORE COLD FRONT BRINGS NEXT  
ROUND OF MVFR/IFR CEILINGS LATER THIS MORNING. CONFIDENCE IS NOT  
HIGH GIVEN UPSTREAM OBS ONLY SHOW A NARROW STRIPE OF LOW  
CEILINGS BUT MODEL GUIDANCE IS IN REASONABLE AGREEMENT ON A  
SOLID 4-6 HOUR PERIOD OF 800-1500 FT CEILINGS THIS MORNING AND  
WILL HOLD WITH THAT FOR NOW. THE DURATION COULD BE SHORTER.  
OTHERWISE CEILINGS LIFT DURING THE DAY BUT THERE IS SOME  
QUESTION IF WE WILL SCATTER OUT ENTIRELY (ESPECIALLY AT KSBN) AS  
SOME HI-RES GUIDANCE SHOWS A THIN LAYER OF STRATUS HOLDING  
THROUGH THE DAY. SUSPECT WE WILL SCATTER OUT BUT VERY LATE IN  
THE DAY. VFR WILL BE SHORT-LIVED WITH MORE BR AND STRATUS  
ANTICIPATED EARLY WED AM, JUST OUTSIDE OF THIS FORECAST WINDOW.  
 
 
   
IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
IN...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL NOON EST TODAY FOR LMZ043-046.  
 
 
 
 
 
DISCUSSION...ROLLER  
AVIATION...AGD  
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