462  
FXUS63 KIWX 192054  
AFDIWX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA  
354 PM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- NEXT RAIN CHANCES ARRIVE WEDNESDAY MORNING, WITH RAIN CHANCES  
DIMINISHING FROM WEST TO EAST DURING THE AFTERNOON.  
 
- MUCH COLDER AIR BUILDS INTO THE REGION LATE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON  
INTO THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
- SCATTERED TO NUMEROUS SNOW SHOWERS DEVELOP WEDNESDAY MORNING,  
WITH RAIN AND SNOW BECOMING WIDESPREAD DURING THE AFTERNOON.  
SLUSHY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF AN INCH OR TWO POSSIBLE ACROSS  
GRASSY AREAS, ESPECIALLY ACROSS NORTHWEST AND NORTH CENTRAL  
INDIANA ALONG WITH PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST LOWER MICHIGAN.  
 
- SOME MINOR TRAVEL IMPACTS POSSIBLE IF HEAVIER SNOWFALL RATES  
MATERIALIZE THURSDAY, BUT CURRENT FORECAST THINKING IS FOR  
SNOW TO MAINLY MELT ON ROADWAYS.  
 
- WINDY CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED FOR MUCH OF THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT  
THROUGH FRIDAY PERIOD.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 337 PM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
A MIX OF RAIN AND SNOW WITH SOME POSSIBLE SLUSHY SNOW ACCUMULATION  
ON THURSDAY IS STILL THE MAIN WEATHER STORY THIS FORECAST  
CYCLE.  
 
IN THE MEANTIME, A COLD FRONT TRACKING ACROSS NORTHERN ILLINOIS THIS  
AFTERNOON WILL MAKE ITS WAY ACROSS THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES LATE  
TONIGHT INTO EARLY WEDNESDAY. SOME INCREASE IN MOISTURE DEPTH  
IS EXPECTED LATE TONIGHT AS A STRONG UPPER VORT MAX ACROSS  
COLORADO AND ACCOMPANYING 120+ KNOT UPPER JET STREAK BEGIN TO  
SHIFT EAST-NORTHEAST INTO THE MID MS VALLEY. STRENGTHENING MID  
LEVEL FGEN AHEAD OF THIS SHORT WAVE AND GOOD UPPER DYNAMICS  
SHOULD SUPPORT BLOSSOMING AREA OF RAIN SHOWERS WITH THIS  
DISTURBANCE IN THE 12Z-18Z TIMEFRAME WED. A MID LEVEL DRY SLOT  
WILL BRIEFLY PUNCH INTO THE AREA WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON BRINGING AN  
END TO THE RAIN CHANCES. MOISTURE QUALITY IS LIMITED, BUT GIVEN  
STRENGTH OF MID AND UPPER LEVEL FORCING AND FGEN FIELDS,  
LIKELY/CATEGORICAL POPS STILL SEEM REASONABLE. PROGRESSIVE  
NATURE AND MOISTURE CONSIDERATIONS STILL SUGGEST LIGHT AMOUNTS  
OF RAIN OF A TENTH OF AN INCH OR LESS. ANY DECREASE IN CLOUD  
COVER SHOULD BE SHORT-LIVED IN WAKE OF THESE RAIN SHOWERS  
WEDNESDAY AS ANOTHER STRONGER COLD FRONT DROPS INTO THE REGION  
FOR WEDNESDAY EVENING. STRATOCU SHOULD OVERSPREAD THE AREA AS  
THIS COLD ADVECTION STRENGTHENS, WITH SOME POSSIBILITY OF  
SCATTERED SNOW SHOWER DEVELOPMENT WED NIGHT, ESPECIALLY  
DOWNWIND OF LAKE MICHIGAN. LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS MAY STRUGGLE  
INITIALLY HOWEVER, WITH MID LEVEL PROFILES STILL SOMEWHAT ON  
THE DRY SIDE. BY LATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING,  
MOISTURE DEPTHS SHOULD INCREASE AS BETTER MID LEVEL MOISTURE  
WRAPS CYCLONICALLY AROUND THE INITIAL VORT MAX PASSING ACROSS  
THE AREA AREA EARLIER IN THE DAY.  
 
THE ACTIVE WEATHER CONTINUES ON THURSDAY AS BALL OF UPPER LEVEL  
VORTICITY DROPS SOUTH ACROSS THE SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES. THE LOW LEVEL  
REFLECTION WITH THIS SYSTEM WILL LIKELY BE ENHANCED BY A LARGE  
AMOUNT OF FLUX FROM WARMER LAKE MICHIGAN WATERS AND AN ENHANCED  
LOW LEVEL PV ANOMALY FROM WIDESPREAD PRECIP ACROSS THE GREAT  
LAKES. TIMING OF THE UPPER LEVEL DPVA AND LOW LEVEL REFLECTION  
STILL SUGGEST THE 15-02Z TIMEFRAME FOR MOST WIDESPREAD PRECIP  
FROM NORTH TO SOUTH. OCCLUDING NATURE OF THIS SYSTEM WILL ALLOW  
BROAD WARM/MOIST ADVECTION TO WRAP ACROSS WESTERN GREAT LAKES  
DURING THE AFTERNOON THURSDAY, AND THUS IT STILL APPEARS AS  
THOUGH BEST CHANCE OF ACCUMULATING SNOW WILL BE AT LEADING EDGE  
OF THIS PRECIP SHIELD THURSDAY, AND POSSIBLY IN THE EVENING  
DURING A MORE DIURNALLY FAVORED PERIOD.  
 
SEVERAL FACTORS TO CONSIDER FOR SNOW TO LIQUID RATIOS THAT COULD  
LIMIT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS INCLUDING STRONG FLOW LEADING TO DENDRITE  
FRACTURING, INITIAL WARMER GROUND TEMPERATURES CAUSING SOME MELTING,  
AND FAIRLY DEEP RIMING LAYER IN THE LOW LEVELS. STILL EXPECTING  
ACCUMULATIONS TO BE MAINLY FOR GRASSY AREAS, BUT IF BRIEF SPURTS OF  
HIGHER PRECIP RATES CAN BE REALIZED FOR A TIME, SOME MINOR TRAVEL  
IMPACTS ARE POSSIBLE. IN ADDITION, IT WILL BE QUITE WINDY  
THURSDAY/THURSDAY NIGHT, AND SOME VISIBILITY RESTRICTIONS ARE  
POSSIBLE WITH ANY HEAVIER SNOW SHOWERS.  
 
GUIDANCE HAS BEEN HINTING AT PERHAPS A SLIGHT WESTWARD TREND IN  
TRACK OF THE ABOVE FORCING MECHANISMS OVER THE PAST FEW CYCLES, AND  
TRIED TO INCORPORATE SOME HINT OF THAT WITH LATEST PACKAGE WITH  
SLIGHTLY LOWER SNOW ACCUMS IN NW OHIO. HAVE GONE WITH 1-2" TYPE SNOW  
ACCUMULATIONS ACROSS THE WEST, BUT CANNOT RULE OUT SOME LOCALIZED  
HIGHER ACCUMULATIONS DEPENDING ON HOW INGREDIENTS COME TOGETHER.  
GIVEN SOME DEPENDENCE ON DIABATIC PV ANOMALY, THE TRACK OF LOW LEVEL  
REFLECTION WILL CERTAINLY WOBBLE OVER NEXT FEW YEAR GUIDANCE RUNS  
AND ADDITIONAL FORECAST ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE NEEDED. CONFIDENCE  
REMAINS ON THE HIGH SIDE IN EVENTUAL TRANSITION BACK TO RAIN FROM  
NORTH TO SOUTH LATER THURSDAY AFTERNOON INTO THURSDAY EVENING AS  
HIGHER THETA-E AIR WRAPS INTO THE AREA.  
 
BROAD UPPER LEVEL HEIGHT MINIMUM WILL BE SLOW TO DEPART INTO FRIDAY  
WITH MID LEVEL COLD POOL STILL RESIDING ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST  
PORTIONS OF THE AREA. IN ADDITION TO SOME LINGERING SHALLOW  
INSTABILITY RAIN SHOWERS, SOME LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS ARE ALSO  
EXPECTED.  
 
FOR THE WEEKEND, LOW LEVEL FLOW WILL BECOME MORE BACKED AS MID/UPPER  
LEVEL HEIGHTS RECOVER UPSTREAM. THIS WILL ALLOW MODERATION OF TEMPS  
BACK TO SEASONABLE LEVELS. GUIDANCE CONSENSUS DOES HINT AT NEXT MORE  
SUBSTANTIAL EASTERN PACIFIC WAVE POSSIBLY IMPACTING THE AREA EARLY  
NEXT WEEK WITH NEXT NOTABLE CHANCE OF RAIN SHOWERS AND TEMPERATURES  
BRIEFLY WARMING TO SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z WEDNESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1152 AM EST TUE NOV 19 2024  
 
POST-FRONTAL MIXING AND DRYING WILL ALLOW STRATOCU NEAR 3 KFT TO  
SCATTER/MIX OUT THIS AFTERNOON. SOUTHWEST WINDS WILL ALSO GUST TO  
NEAR 25 KNOTS AT TIMES IN THIS REGIME. A BRIEF LULL IN WINDS THEN  
INTO TONIGHT GIVES WAY TO A PERIOD OF MVFR CIGS, GUSTY WEST WINDS  
AND RAIN CHANCES MID-LATE WED MORNING AS A ROBUST SHORTWAVE AND  
ASSOCIATED SECONDARY COLD FRONT MOVES THROUGH.  
 

 
   
IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IN...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 10 AM WEDNESDAY TO 7 AM EST THURSDAY  
FOR LMZ043-046.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...MARSILI  
AVIATION...STEINWEDEL  
 
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