030  
FXUS63 KIWX 201728  
AFDIWX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA  
1228 PM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- RAIN AND SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE MAINLY NEAR LAKE MICHIGAN  
TONIGHT, WITH EVERYONE SEEING AT LEAST SOME SNOWFLAKES ON  
THURSDAY AS COLDER AIR RUSHES ON ON STRONG WEST TO NORTHWEST  
WINDS.  
 
- CONFIDENCE REMAINS ON THE LOWER SIDE ON ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL  
THURSDAY GIVEN AIR TEMPERATURES NEAR OR ABOVE FREEZING, WARM  
GROUND TEMPS AND WET NATURE OF THE SNOW. HEAVIER BANDS COULD  
BRING A QUICK INCH OR SO TO SOME AREAS.  
 
- TRAVEL IMPACTS, IF ANY, SHOULD BE LIMITED TO THE THURSDAY  
AFTERNOON COMMUTE FOR AREAS THAT SEE THE SNOW STICK TO ROADS  
OR ELEVATED SURFACES.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 442 AM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
A COLD FRONT WAS MAKING STEADY PROGRESS EAST ACROSS IL EARLY  
THIS MORNING, SIGNALING THE START OF AN INCREASINGLY ACTIVE  
PERIOD. THE DEEP UPPER LOW, CENTERED OVER NW MINNESOTA WILL  
BEGIN ITS DIVE SOUTH OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS, REACHING LOWER  
MICHIGAN BY 12Z THU. A SERIES OF RATHER STOUT SHORTWAVES WILL  
IMPACT THE AREA, WITH THE FIRST ALREADY MAKING ITS PRESENCE  
KNOWN BY FORCING A SLOWLY EXPANDING AREA OF SHOWERS ALONG THE  
COLD FRONT, FURTHER AIDED BY A 120+ KT JET STREAK. AS THE WAVE  
WORKS EAST, THE BAND OF SHOWERS SHOULD EXPAND AND INTENSIFY  
SOMEWHAT, REACHING WESTERN AREAS NEAR/JUST AFTER 12Z WED AND  
THEN QUICKLY EXITING BY 18Z OR SO. OVERALL QPF WILL BE LIGHT, ON  
THE ORDER OF A TENTH OF AN INCH OR SO AND WILL BE IN THE FORM  
OF RAIN DESPITE CAA ALREADY UNDERWAY (0 DEGREE 850 MB TEMPS  
RIGHT AT THE LEADING EDGE OF THE FRONT). MANY AREAS WILL SEE A  
LULL IN PRECIP THIS AFTERNOON WITH FOCUS SHIFTING TO ALONG/N OF  
THE TOLL ROAD NEAR/AFTER 00Z THU AS THE DEEP UPPER LOW DRAWS  
CLOSER AND RAPID DEVELOPMENT AND DEEPENING OF A SURFACE LOW OVER  
LOWER MI DRAWS IN THE START OF THE COLDEST AIR SO FAR THIS FALL  
(850 MB TEMPS OF -5 TO  
-10 C). THIS WILL START THE LAKE EFFECT PROCESS WITH BANDS OF  
RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS FROM WEST TO EAST, LESSENING WITH SOUTHWARD EXTENT  
AND INLAND.  
 
THE COLDEST AIR WILL CLIP SW AREAS NEAR 12Z AND THEN TRANSLATE SE  
INTO CENTRAL IN AS THE STRONG SFC LOW OVER LK HURON QUICKLY SHIFTS W  
THEN SW, EVENTUALLY REACHING THE IN/MI STATE LINE BY 00Z FRI. MODELS  
HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT ON A LARGE AREA OF LIGHT TO MODERATE  
PRECIPITATION OVERSPREADING THE FORECAST AREA STARTING AROUND 18Z  
THU AND THEN PROGRESSING RAPIDLY SOUTH. WHILE CONFIDENCE IS HIGH ON  
THE PRECIP, FINER DETAILS ON PTYPE AND MORE SPECIFICALLY SNOW  
ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL, REMAIN A BIT MORE DICEY AS AIR TEMPERATURES  
WILL BE NEAR OR JUST ABOVE FREEZING, WARM GROUND CONDITIONS LINGER  
AND OVERALL PRECIP RATES WILL VARY AT ANY GIVEN LOCATION. STEEPENING  
LAPSE RATES SHOULD AID IN SOME EFFECTIVE COOLING OF THE COLUMN IN  
THE HEAVIER PRECIP, LEADING TO INCREASE CONCERNS VS THE PAST COUPLE  
OF DAYS FOR POSSIBLY ACCUMULATIONS. IF THE DYNAMIC PROCESSES  
WIN, SOME AREAS IN THE SW PART OF THE CWA COULD SEE 1 TO 2  
INCHES OF SLOPPY SNOWFALL. WHILE THE CURRENT FORECAST REFLECTS  
AMOUNTS IN THIS RANGE, MUCH REMAINS TO BE SORTED OUT OVER THE  
NEXT 24 HOURS. DAYTIME OCCURRENCE OF THE PRECIP WILL HELP  
SOMEWHAT ON LIMITING ROAD IMPACTS, BUT HEAVIER SNOW RATES AND  
TEMPERATURES NEAR FREEZING COULD STILL BRING SOME SLICK SPOTS.  
 
PTYPE ISSUES AREN'T THE ONLY THING TO MONITOR AS THE DEEPENING LOW  
WILL CREATE A DECENT PRESSURE GRADIENT WITH WINDS OF 15 TO 25 MPH  
AND GUSTS OF 30 MPH OR HIGHER. NOT ONLY COULD THIS IMPACT  
VISIBILITIES WITH ANY SNOW, IT WILL MAKE IT FEEL DOWNRIGHT RAW  
(WIND CHILLS IN THE 20S) COMPARED TO THE WEEKS OF WARMER WEATHER  
WE ENJOYED.  
 
FEW CHANGES MADE BEYOND THURSDAY NIGHT AS THE REGION REMAINS UNDER  
THE INFLUENCE OF THE MAIN UPPER LOW STILL SITTING THE NE US THROUGH  
SATURDAY. ONE MORE ROUND OF MAINLY LAKE ENHANCED PRECIP APPEARS  
LIKELY FRI INTO FRI EVENING, BUT BY THIS POINT THERMAL PROFILES  
SHOULD BE SUFFICIENTLY WARM ENOUGH TO SUPPORT ALL RAIN.  
ADDITIONAL MODERATION IN TEMPERATURES AND AT LEAST A TEMPORARY  
REPRIEVE TO THE WET CONDITIONS ARRIVES FOR THE WEEKEND BEFORE  
PIECES OF ENERGY FROM THE MONSTER LOW OFF THE PACIFIC COAST MOVE  
EAST.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z THURSDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1228 PM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
A TRANSITION TO BREEZY WEST WINDS AND DRY/VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED  
THIS AFTERNOON IN WAKE OF A ROBUST SHORTWAVE. A TRAILING UPPER  
LEVEL SYSTEM AND POCKET OF COLDER AIR DOES FOLLOW IN TONIGHT  
INTO THURSDAY MORNING. THERE SHOULD BE ADEQUATE MOISTURE FOR  
LIGHT SCATTERED CONVECTIVE SHOWERS DURING THIS TIME (RAIN/SNOW  
MIX THIS EVENING, CHANGING TO SNOW THUR AM), FAVORED MORE AT  
KSBN GIVEN INCREASING LAKE ENHANCEMENT. CIGS WILL GENERALLY  
LOWER BACK INTO THE MVFR TO LOW VFR RANGE TONIGHT, WITH VISBY'S  
BRIEFLY DROPPING INTO IFR/MVFR IN HEAVIER SNOW SHOWERS OVERNIGHT  
INTO THUR AM AT MAINLY KSBN. PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL KEEP  
WESTERLY WINDS UP THROUGH THE PERIOD, GUSTING NEAR 20 KNOTS AT  
TIMES INTO TONIGHT, AND UP TO 25-30 KNOTS TOMORROW.  
 

 
   
IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IN...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EST THURSDAY FOR LMZ043-046.  
GALE WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT  
FOR LMZ043-046.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...FISHER  
AVIATION...STEINWEDEL  
 
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