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FXUS63 KIWX 202030  
AFDIWX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA  
330 PM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
* COLDER AIR PUSHES INTO THE REGION TONIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING.  
 
* SCATTERED SNOW SHOWERS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP TONIGHT, GREATEST  
COVERAGE ASSOCIATED WITH LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS OVERNIGHT  
WITH LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF AN INCH OR LESS POSSIBLE  
(MAINLY ACROSS GRASSY AREAS).  
 
* WIDESPREAD SNOW DEVELOPS FOR THURSDAY, MIXING WITH RAIN AT  
TIMES. PRECIP TYPES SHOULD CHANGE TO MAINLY RAIN LATE IN THE  
AFTERNOON ACROSS FAR NORTHWEST INDIANA INTO SOUTHWEST LOWER  
MICHIGAN. SLUSHY SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 1 TO 3 INCHES ARE  
POSSIBLE. LESSER SNOW ACCUMULATIONS EXPECTED ACROSS FAR  
NORTHEAST INDIANA, NORTHWEST OHIO, AND SOUTH CENTRAL LOWER  
MICHIGAN.  
 
* CONFIDENCE IN THE EXTENT OF TRAVEL IMPACTS REMAIN ON THE LOW  
SIDE DUE TO WARMER GROUND TEMPS AND EXPECTATION OF MELTING ON  
ROADWAYS. HOWEVER, VISIBILITY REDUCTIONS AND SOME SLICK SPOTS  
ON ROADS ARE POSSIBLE IN ASSOCIATION WITH HEAVIER SNOWFALL  
RATES THURSDAY AFTERNOON.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 330 PM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
THE ACTIVE WEATHER PATTERN WILL CONTINUE THROUGH FRIDAY, WITH MAIN  
PERIOD OF POTENTIAL IMPACTS CONCERN CENTERING ON THURSDAY INTO  
EARLY THURSDAY EVENING.  
 
A BAND OF RAIN SHOWERS ASSOCIATED WITH STRONG MID LEVEL FGEN  
FORCING HAS REMAINED QUITE PROGRESSIVE AS IT EXITS NORTHWEST  
OHIO THIS AFTERNOON. A STRONG UPPER SPEED MAX PROGRESSING  
THROUGH BASE OF THE ASSOCIATED UPPER LEVEL WAVE TRACKING ACROSS  
THE AREA WILL EVENTUALLY ALLOW LOW/MID LEVEL HEIGHT REFLECTION  
TO RETROGRADE BACK TO THE WEST AS THIS UPPER TROUGH WRAPS UP  
ACROSS THE GREAT LAKES REGION. TO THE SOUTH OF THIS FEATURE,  
MUCH COLDER LOW LEVEL AIR WILL CONTINUE TO ADVECT SOUTHEAST. AN  
UPPER HEIGHT MINIMUM ACROSS THE UPPER MIDWEST WILL BECOME A BIT  
MORE SHEARED IN NATURE THIS EVENING AS ITS INFLUENCE REACHES THE  
SOUTHERN GREAT LAKES. THE COMBINATION OF THIS FORCING AND THE  
MUCH COLDER LOW LEVEL AIR SHOULD GIVE RISE TO LAKE EFFECT SNOW  
SHOWERS TONIGHT, WITH SCATTERED SYNOPTIC SNOW SHOWERS ALSO  
POSSIBLE. FETCH WILL REMAIN PRIMARILY WESTERLY FOR THIS PORTION  
OF THE LAKE EFFECT EVENT WHICH SHOULD PROVIDE A MULTIBAND SETUP  
TONIGHT INTO EARLY THURSDAY. MOISTURE DEPTHS SHOULD INCREASE  
TONIGHT ACCOMPANYING THE INCREASE IN SYNOPTIC FORCING WHICH  
COULD ALLOW FOR SOME BAND ORGANIZATION. WOULD EXPECT ANY  
ACCUMULATIONS TONIGHT TO BE MINOR GIVEN FETCH LIMITATIONS, WHICH  
IS ALREADY CAPTURED NICELY IN PREVIOUS FORECAST (LESS THAN AN  
INCH AND MAINLY ACROSS GRASSY AREAS).  
 
ATTENTION THEN TURNS TO EVOLUTION OF LOW LEVEL HEIGHT MINIMUM  
AS IT DRIFTS BACK ACROSS THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES ON THURSDAY  
WITH AN ACCOMPANYING WIDESPREAD PRECIP SHIELD DROPPING SOUTH  
ACROSS THE REGION. PRECEDING 24 HOURS OF STRONG COLD ADVECTION  
SHOULD SUPPORT MAINLY SNOW PRECIP TYPES THURSDAY MORNING INTO  
THURSDAY AFTERNOON, BUT CONFIDENCE IN PRECIP TYPES DIMINISHES  
AFTER 20Z TOMORROW CLOSER TO LAKE MICHIGAN AS THETA-E MAXIMUM  
BEGINS TO WRAP CYCLONICALLY BACK INTO THE AREA. PREVIOUS  
LIMITATIONS TO MORE EFFICIENT SNOWFALL ACCUMULATION ARE STILL IN  
PLACE INCLUDING MARGINAL WET BULB TEMPS, POTENTIAL OF INITIAL  
SNOW MELTING, AND LOW LEVEL RIMING. HOWEVER, STILL EXPECTING A  
PERIOD OF MORE ROBUST SNOWFALL RATES LATE MORNING THURSDAY INTO  
EARLY EVENING THAT COULD RESULT IN A QUICK COUPLE INCHES OF  
SLUSHY SNOW ACCUMULATION. CONFIDENCE REMAINS SOMEWHAT ON THE  
LOWER SIDE ON THE EXTENT OF IMPACTS GIVEN MARGINAL TEMPS AND  
WARM GROUND POSSIBLY LIMITING PAVEMENT ACCUMS, BUT PRECIP RATES  
MAY OVERCOME THIS LIMITATION FOR SOME SLICK SPOTS ON ROADS  
DURING THE AFTERNOON. HREF MEANS DO SUGGEST POTENTIAL FOR A  
PERIOD OF SNOWFALL RATES OF 1" PER HOUR POSSIBLE SOME TIME IN  
THE 16-20Z TIMEFRAME FROM NW INDIANA TO SW LOWER MICHIGAN. SOME  
CONCERN ALSO PERSISTS FOR BRIEF BUT SIGNIFICANT VSBY REDUCTIONS  
WITH HEAVIER SNOW BURSTS ALSO. ONE OF THE LEAST CONFIDENT ITEMS  
FOR THIS FORECAST IS DURATION OF PTYPES INTO THE MID/LATE  
AFTERNOON SUPPORTING SNOW CLOSER TO LAKE MICHIGAN WHERE LOW  
LEVEL WET BULBS WILL BE RIGHT AT THE MARGINS. THIS IS ALSO WHERE  
SOME OF THE HEAVIER PRECIP RATES SHOULD BE REALIZED WHICH COULD  
CAUSE A CONCERN FOR LOCALLY HIGHER SNOW ACCUMULATIONS IF  
CHANGEOVER BACK TO RAIN IS DELAYED.  
 
LOW LEVEL REFLECTION SHOULD DRIFT SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE AREA INTO  
THURSDAY EVENING BUT LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION/CONVERGENCE SHOULD  
TEND TO WEAKEN AS THERMAL CONVERGENCE CONTRIBUTION FROM LAKE MI  
WANES. BY THE EVENING COMMUTE, POTENTIAL OF MINOR IMPACTS SHOULD  
TEND TO PROGRESS SOUTHWARD ACROSS SOUTHWEST/SOUTHERN PORTIONS  
OF THE AREA, AS LOCATIONS ACROSS THE NORTHWEST TRANSITION BACK  
TO LIQUID PTYPES. ONE THING WHICH MAY NEED SOME WATCHING LATE  
THURSDAY IS THE POTENTIAL FOR MESOVORTICES TO TRACK INLAND FROM  
LAKE MICHIGAN. LAKE INDUCED CONVERGENCE AND CIRCULATION FROM  
LARGE SCALE DIABATIC PV ANOMALY COULD CREATE A STRONG WEST-EAST  
ORIENTED SHEAR ZONE ACROSS LAKE MI THAT WOULD BE FAVORABLE FOR  
MESOVORTEX DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, BY THE TIME THIS ENVIRONMENT  
REACHES INLAND AREAS, PTYPES SHOULD BE MORE IN THE FAVOR OF  
LIQUID. SOME GRAUPEL ALSO CANNOT BE COMPLETELY RULED OUT LATE  
AFTERNOON/EARLY EVENING AS CONVECTIVE ELEMENT PORTION OF THIS  
EVENT MAY MAXIMIZE. HAVE MAINTAINED LOWER SNOW ACCUMULATIONS  
EAST OF I-69 INTO NW OHIO WHICH WILL BE BYPASSED BY STRONGER  
FORCING MECHANISMS.  
 
FOR LATE THURSDAY NIGHT INTO FRIDAY NIGHT, LINGERING EFFECTS FROM  
DEPARTING MID LEVEL COLD POOL AND FAVORABLE LAKE EFFECT FETCH  
SHOULD PROLONG RAIN CHANCES, BUT ADDITIONAL PRECIP AMOUNTS  
SHOULD BE ON THE LIGHT SIDE. SOME SHORT WAVE RIDGING TRIES TO  
BUILD INTO THE AREA THIS WEEKEND, BUT ACTIVE NORTHERN LATITUDE  
SHORT WAVE PATTERN WILL SUPPRESS ANY SIGNIFICANT MODERATION.  
SOME INDICATIONS IN MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE OF ANOTHER FROPA LATE  
WEEKEND/EARLY NEXT WEEK THAT MAY BRING SOME ADDITIONAL LAKE  
EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS AND A TRANSITION BACK TO BELOW NORMAL  
TEMPERATURES FOR MUCH OF NEXT WEEK.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 18Z THURSDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1228 PM EST WED NOV 20 2024  
 
A TRANSITION TO BREEZY WEST WINDS AND DRY/VFR CONDITIONS EXPECTED  
THIS AFTERNOON IN WAKE OF A ROBUST SHORTWAVE. A TRAILING UPPER  
LEVEL SYSTEM AND POCKET OF COLDER AIR DOES FOLLOW IN TONIGHT  
INTO THURSDAY MORNING. THERE SHOULD BE ADEQUATE MOISTURE FOR  
LIGHT SCATTERED CONVECTIVE SHOWERS DURING THIS TIME (RAIN/SNOW  
MIX THIS EVENING, CHANGING TO SNOW THUR AM), FAVORED MORE AT  
KSBN GIVEN INCREASING LAKE ENHANCEMENT. CIGS WILL GENERALLY  
LOWER BACK INTO THE MVFR TO LOW VFR RANGE TONIGHT, WITH VISBY'S  
BRIEFLY DROPPING INTO IFR/MVFR IN HEAVIER SNOW SHOWERS OVERNIGHT  
INTO THUR AM AT MAINLY KSBN. PRESSURE GRADIENT WILL KEEP  
WESTERLY WINDS UP THROUGH THE PERIOD, GUSTING NEAR 20 KNOTS AT  
TIMES INTO TONIGHT, AND UP TO 25-30 KNOTS TOMORROW.  
 

 
   
IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IN...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY UNTIL 11 AM EST THURSDAY FOR LMZ043-046.  
GALE WATCH FROM THURSDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE THURSDAY NIGHT  
FOR LMZ043-046.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...MARSILI  
AVIATION...STEINWEDEL  
 
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