771  
FXUS63 KIWX 220003  
AFDIWX  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORTHERN INDIANA  
703 PM EST THU NOV 21 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- SNOW TAPERS FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THROUGH EARLY EVENING, WITH A  
CHANGE OVER TO LIQUID ACROSS THE WEST-NORTHWEST. SOME MINOR  
IMPACTS TO THE EVENING COMMUTE ARE EXPECTED MAINLY SOUTH OF US  
30 ACROSS NORTHERN INDIANA.  
 
- LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS FOR LATER TONIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY EVENING.  
 
- SOME MODERATION IN TEMPERATURES SUNDAY AND MONDAY WITH NEXT  
CHANCE OF RAIN SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY.  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 339 PM EST THU NOV 21 2024  
 
SNOW WILL DIMINISH FROM NORTH TO SOUTH THIS EVENING AS STRONGER  
UPPER VORT MAX DROPS SOUTH ACROSS SOUTHERN INDIANA. DEFORMATION  
FLOW AND POCKET OF LOW LEVEL MOISTURE CONVERGENCE ASSOCIATED  
WITH STRONG LOW LEVEL JET PROVIDED SOME ENHANCEMENT TO THE SNOW  
ACROSS EAST CENTRAL WISCONSIN INTO FAR NORTHEAST ILLINOIS AND  
EXTREME NORTHWEST INDIANA. SNOWFALL ACCUMULATION EFFICIENCY HAS  
BEEN LIMITED LOCALLY BY WARM GROUND CONDITIONS, STRONG LOW LEVEL  
FLOW, AND A VERY HIGH BASED MID LEVEL DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE.  
SOME DRIER MID LEVEL AIR IS BEGINNING TO PUSH SOUTHWARD ACROSS  
THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES AND THIS SHOULD CONTINUE TO MINIMIZE  
SNOWFALL EFFICIENCY OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL HOURS. WARMER AND MORE  
MOIST AIR IS ALSO WRAPPING AROUND THIS SYSTEM WHICH HAS  
EFFECTIVELY PUSHED NEAR SFC WET BULBS WARM ENOUGH FOR A  
TRANSITION TO LIQUID PRECIP TYPE ACROSS NORTHERN SUBURBS OF  
CHICAGO AND SW LOWER MICHIGAN AS OF 19Z. THIS RAIN/SNOW LINE  
SHOULD CONTINUE TO PUSH SOUTHEASTWARD OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS  
WITH FOCUS FOR ADDITIONAL LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS SHIFTING  
SOUTH OF THE US ROUTE 30 CORRIDOR IN NORTHERN INDIANA FOR THE  
EVENING COMMUTE. PAVEMENTS SHOULD PRIMARILY REMAIN WET, BUT A  
FEW SLICK SPOTS ARE STILL POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS.  
 
ACTUAL SFC REFLECTION OF THIS SYSTEM IS STILL OVER SOUTHERN  
LAKE MICHIGAN AND WILL NEED TO WATCH THE EVOLUTION OF LAKE MI  
ENHANCED MESOLOW AS IT TRACKS INTO NORTHWEST INDIANA/NORTH  
CENTRAL INDIANA THIS EVENING. THIS SFC REFLECTION HAS BEEN  
ENHANCED BY HIGH EARLY SEASON FLUXES OFF LAKE MICHIGAN ALONG  
WITH TIGHTENING OF THE CIRCULATION FROM A 12 TO 18 HOUR PERIOD  
OF LATENT HEATING. PRECIP TYPES MAY BE MARGINAL WITH ANY  
ENHANCED BANDING WITH THIS FEATURE AS LOW LEVEL WET BULB TEMPS  
CREEP UPWARD. THIS EVOLUTION COULD PRODUCE A NARROW BAND OF  
IMPACTS IF MESOBAND IS ABLE TO MATERIALIZE. ALSO CANNOT RULE OUT  
A FEW REPORTS OF GRAUPEL WITH MESOLOW FEATURE AS IT PUSHES  
INLAND. OUTSIDE OF THIS MESOLOW FEATURE, DEEP MOISTURE PROFILES  
WILL BECOME PROGRESSIVELY LESS FAVORABLE FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW  
THIS EVENING.  
 
SOME BRIEF STRONGER DEEP LAYER SUBSIDENCE WILL PUSH INTO SOUTHERN  
LOWER MICHIGAN AND NORTH CENTRAL INDIANA LATER THIS EVENING  
WITH SOME BREAKS IN LOW CLOUDS POSSIBLE. LAKE EFFECT RAIN  
SHOWERS SHOULD EVENTUALLY SHIFT BACK EASTWARD INTO THE AREA AS  
AXIS OF MID LEVEL MOISTURE RECOVERY APPROACHES. NEGATIVE UPPER  
HEIGHT ANOMALY PERSISTS ACROSS EASTERN CONUS FOR FRIDAY  
MAINTAINING A FAVORABLE NORTHERLY FETCH FOR CONTINUED LAKE  
EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS. MOISTURE DEPTHS WILL BE MORE LIMITED ON  
FRIDAY WHICH WILL LIMIT OVERALL PRECIP AMOUNTS. MODERATION OF  
LOW LEVEL AIRMASS ON FRIDAY SHOULD SUPPORT HIGHS IN THE MID-  
UPPER 40S.  
 
LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS SHOULD COME TO AN END LATER FRIDAY NIGHT  
AS BETTER MID LEVEL HEIGHT RECOVERY COMMENCES ACROSS THE MID MS  
VALLEY/WESTERN GREAT LAKES. A PERIOD OF MAINLY DRY CONDITIONS  
IS THEN IN STORE THROUGH THE DAY SUNDAY AS TEMPERATURES WARM  
BACK TO SLIGHTLY ABOVE NORMAL. A BRIEF BUT RESPECTABLE PERIOD OF  
LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT WILL BE POSSIBLE SUNDAY EVENING  
AHEAD OF ASSOCIATED COLD FRONT. WILL MAINTAIN HIGH CHANCE POPS  
THIS PERIOD WITH MAIN QUESTION CENTERING ON DURATION AND  
NORTHWARD EXTENT OF BETTER LOW LEVEL MOISTURE TRANSPORT. COLDER  
CONDITIONS BUILD IN BEHIND THIS COLD FRONT EARLY WEEK. LOOKING  
AHEAD, MEDIUM RANGE GUIDANCE DOES INDICATE ANOTHER SYSTEM FOR  
MIDDLE-LATE WEEK, BUT STILL SOME QUESTION AS TO EXTENT OF  
SUPPRESSION OF LOW LEVEL REFLECTION. GIVEN UNCERTAINTY AT THIS  
FORECAST DISTANCE WILL MAINTAIN JUST CHANCE RAIN/SNOW POPS  
HEADING INTO WED NIGHT/THU.  
 

 
   
AVIATION /00Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z SATURDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 643 PM EST THU NOV 21 2024  
 
PREDOMINANTLY MVFR TO IFR CONDITIONS AT THE TAF SITES, WITH A  
BRIEF PERIOD OF LIFR CEILINGS POSSIBLE THIS EVENING AT KSBN. A  
SURFACE LOW CENTERED OVER SOUTHERN LAKE MICHIGAN AND NW INDIANA  
WILL CONTINUE TO SINK SSE INTO INDY BY 6Z, THEN IT WILL EXIT THE  
AREA. UPSTREAM OF KSBN WE HAVE 400-600 FT CEILINGS SINKING  
SOUTHWARD-IT IS UNCLEAR IF IT WILL DROP AS LOW AS 400 FT AT  
KSBN, BUT IF IT DOES IT WILL LIKELY BE BEFORE 2-3Z. IT'S  
POSSIBLE WE HAVE BRIEF BUMPS TO HIGH END MVFR/VFR AS SUBSIDENCE  
BEHIND THE WAVE TAKES HOLD. KFWA SHOULD REMAIN IFR (CEILINGS  
HOVERING AROUND 1000 FT ATM). RAIN/SNOW SHOWERS WILL PERSIST FOR  
THE NEXT COUPLE HOURS, WITH SNOW BEING REPORTED RIGHT NOW AT  
KFWA BENEATH A BAND THAT FORMED ALONG THE MAIN TROUGH (EXTENDS  
NORTH INTO THE ANGOLA AREA).  
 
WE'LL HAVE A PERIOD OF SUBSIDENCE AROUND 6Z WHERE CEILINGS/VIS  
IMPROVE TO EITHER HIGH END MVFR/VFR BEFORE ANOTHER TROUGH  
PINWHEELING AROUND THE LOW SWINGS THROUGH AGAIN LATER TONIGHT  
INTO EARLY FRIDAY MORNING. WINDS SHIFT NORTH-NORTHWEST AT KSBN,  
AND WE EXPECT SOME LAKE EFFECT RAIN SHOWERS TO DEVELOP  
AROUND 10-13Z. SOME GUIDANCE KEEPS THIS GOING ALL DAY, BUT  
THINK WE'LL SEE AN END TO THE MOST IMPACTFUL CONDITIONS BETWEEN  
13-17Z. AT KFWA, LESS LAKE INFLUENCE SO WE MAY REMAIN DRY WITH  
HIGHER CEILINGS UNTIL THAT SECOND TROUGH COMES IN, SO ONCE IT  
DOES (12-21Z) WE'LL SEE MVFR CONDITIONS MOST LIKELY-AND IF RAIN  
DOES DEVELOP WE MAY SEE SHOWERS BETWEEN 16-21Z (WITH IFR  
POSSIBLE, HAVE IN A PROB30 GROUP FOR NOW GIVEN LOWER  
CONFIDENCE).  
 

 
   
IWX WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IN...NONE.  
OH...NONE.  
MI...NONE.  
MARINE...GALE WARNING UNTIL 1 AM EST FRIDAY FOR LMZ043-046.  
 

 
 

 
 
DISCUSSION...MARSILI  
AVIATION...MCD  
 
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