074  
FXUS63 KLOT 161804  
AFDLOT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE, IL  
1204 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES  
 
- PERIODS OF RAIN ARE EXPECTED MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING.  
 
- ANOTHER SYSTEM WILL MOVE IN WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY WITH  
ADDITIONAL CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION.  
 
- A COLDER AIR MASS WILL SETTLE IN LATE NEXT WEEK WITH MORNING  
LOW TEMPERATURES AT OR BELOW FREEZING.  
 
 
   
DISCUSSION  
 
ISSUED AT 258 AM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
THROUGH SUNDAY:  
 
AFTER STALLING CLOSE THE IN/IL LINE LATE FRIDAY AFTERNOON AND  
EVENING, THE WESTERN EXTENT OF AN EXPANSIVE AREA OF STRATUS HAS  
STARTED TO ADVECT NORTHWEST BEHIND A PASSING RIDGE. AREAS EAST  
OF I-39 ARE GENERALLY OVERCAST AS OF 2AM, AND THE CLOUD COVER  
SHOULD CONTINUE TO EXPAND ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF THE FORECAST  
AREA THROUGH SUNRISE. FLOW WILL MORE OR LESS BE UNIFORM THROUGH  
THE CLOUD LAYER AND ACROSS A SLOWLY LOWERING SUBSIDENCE  
INVERSION, SO OVERALL MIXING WILL REMAIN LOW AT BEST. BUT GIVEN  
THE EXPECTED SHALLOW CLOUD DEPTH, ANY HOLES THAT DEVELOP WITHIN  
THE CLOUD LAYER MAY CASCADE INTO LARGER AREAS OF CLEARING BY  
THIS AFTERNOON. WILL MAINTAIN A MORE PESSIMISTIC FORECAST WITH  
CLOUD COVER AND TEMPS TODAY, WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR THE FORECAST  
TO VARY CONSIDERABLY DEPENDING ON THE CLOUD COVER TRENDS.  
 
A HIGHLY OCCLUDED LOW/UPPER-TROUGH LIFTING NORTHEAST ACROSS THE  
DAKOTAS TODAY WILL DRAG A WEAKENING COLD FRONT ACROSS THE  
FORECAST AREA LATE THIS EVENING INTO SUNDAY MORNING. INITIALLY,  
A POCKET OF MODEST MID-LEVEL MOISTURE MAY HELP INITIATE SOME  
VERY HIGH-BASED (APPROACHING 15KFT) SHOWERS CLOSER TO THE  
MISSISSIPPI RIVER EARLY THIS EVENING. THE SHOWERS MAY SURVIVE  
THROUGH A DEEP DRY SUB-CLOUD LAYER AND PRODUCE SPARSE SHOWERS OR  
SPRINKLES ACROSS THE NORTHWEST HALF OF THE CWA LATE THIS  
EVENING INTO THE EARLY OVERNIGHT HOURS. LATE TONIGHT THROUGH  
SUNDAY MORNING, VEERING LOW-LEVEL FLOW WITHIN A FEED OF WEAK  
MOISTURE ADVECTION AHEAD OF THE STALLING FRONT WILL RESULT IN  
BROAD BUT WEAK LOW-LEVEL ISENTROPIC ASCENT ACROSS MUCH OF THE  
AREA. THIS SHOULD RESULT IN AT LEAST SOME PATCHY DRIZZLE THROUGH  
THE MORNING BEFORE DECREASING INVERSION HEIGHTS AND SOME LOW-  
LEVEL DRYING ENDS THE PRECIP POTENTIAL IN THE AFTERNOON.  
 
KLUBER  
 
SUNDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY:  
 
MAIN FOCUS THROUGH NEXT WEEK IS ON A PAIR OF PRECIPITATION-  
PRODUCING SYSTEMS WHICH WILL AFFECT THE AREA MONDAY INTO EARLY  
TUESDAY, AND WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY. AFTER A MILD START TO THE  
WEEK, A PATTERN SHIFT TOWARD COOLER, MORE SEASONABLE  
TEMPERATURES IS ALSO EXPECTED WITH THE MID-LATE WEEK SYSTEM.  
THIS MAY POSSIBLY BRING SOME OF THE FIRST WET SNOW FLAKES OF THE  
SEASON TO PARTS OF THE AREA.  
 
A WEAK COLD FRONT WILL BE PUSHING SLOWLY SOUTH-SOUTHEAST ACROSS  
THE FORECAST AREA SUNDAY EVENING, AS THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF  
A MID- LEVEL SHORT WAVE TROUGH AXIS TRANSITS THE AREA. MOISTURE  
DEPTH LOOKS QUITE SHALLOW PER MODEL FORECAST SOUNDINGS, THOUGH  
CAN'T COMPLETELY RULE OUT SOME PATCHY LIGHT RAIN/DRIZZLE IN THE  
VICINITY OF THE LOW- LEVEL BAROCLINIC ZONE DURING THE EVENING  
MAINLY SOUTH OF I-80. WELL TO OUR SOUTHWEST, GUIDANCE CONTINUES  
TO BE IN GOOD AGREEMENT IN A STRONG MID-LEVEL SHORT WAVE  
EMERGING FROM NM/WESTERN TX BY MONDAY MORNING, WHICH IS PROGGED  
TO LIFT NORTHEAST ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS AND A DEEPENING  
(SUB-990 HPA) SURFACE LOW DEVELOPING INTO NORTHEAST KS BY MONDAY  
EVENING. IN RESPONSE TO INCREASING FORCING FOR ASCENT AND A  
NORTHWARD-LIFTING WARM FRONTAL ZONE, RAIN IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP  
ACROSS THE FORECAST AREA DURING THE DAY. RAIN SHOULD BECOME  
MORE WIDESPREAD MONDAY NIGHT, AS THE MID-LEVEL WAVE AND  
OCCLUDING SURFACE LOW CONTINUE TO LIFT NORTHEAST INTO THE UPPER  
MISSISSIPPI VALLEY AND THE OCCLUDED COLD FRONT AND WARM FRONTAL  
BOUNDARY PUSHES INTO IL. RAIN LOOKS TO TAPER OFF FROM SOUTHWEST  
TO NORTHEAST TUESDAY MORNING, AS THE NEGATIVELY-TILTED SHORT  
WAVE CONTINUES TO LIFT NORTH-NORTHEAST ACROSS THE REGION AND THE  
MID- LEVEL DRY SLOT SPREADS IN ALOFT. THE FORECAST AREA WILL  
REMAIN ON THE WARM SIDE OF THIS FIRST SYSTEM, WITH DAYTIME  
TEMPERATURES IN THE 50S TO AROUND 60/LOWER 60S THROUGH TUESDAY  
AND BREEZY SOUTHEAST TO SOUTH WINDS GUSTING TO 25 MPH OR SO AT  
TIMES.  
 
BACK TO THE WEST, EXTENDED GUIDANCE/GLOBAL ENSEMBLES CONTINUE  
TO DEPICT ANOTHER STRONG JET STREAK DIGGING ACROSS THE CENTRAL  
AND SOUTHERN ROCKIES ON TUESDAY, LEADING TO AMPLIFICATION OF A  
LONG-WAVE UPPER TROUGH AND DEVELOPMENT OF A CLOSED UPPER LOW  
ACROSS THE CENTRAL CONUS TUESDAY NIGHT. THE EVOLUTION OF THIS  
UPPER LOW BECOMES RATHER COMPLEX AS IT MOVES EAST ACROSS THE  
MIDWEST MID-WEEK HOWEVER, WITH A STRONG SHORT WAVE WRAPPING  
AROUND THE SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF THE LOW INTO THE REGION BY  
EARLY WEDNESDAY AND THE FORMER UPPER MIDWEST VORT WRAPPING  
AROUND THE CIRCULATION IN A PSEUDO FUJIWHARA EFFECT FURTHER  
DEEPENING THE UPPER LOW ACROSS THE REGION INTO THURSDAY. THIS  
RESULTS IN A NEW DEEPENING SURFACE LOW TAKING SHAPE SOMEWHERE IN  
THE VICINITY OF THE LOWER OH VALLEY, IN AND OH LATER WEDNESDAY  
INTO WEDNESDAY NIGHT.  
 
OBVIOUSLY, THERE REMAINS GUIDANCE SPREAD WITHIN THIS COMPLEX  
EVOLUTION (INCLUDING HOW QUICKLY IT MOVES EAST OF THE AREA LATE  
IN THE WEEK) AND FURTHER REFINEMENT OF THE DETAILS WILL NEED TO  
OCCUR AS THIS CURRENT DAYS 5-6 EVENT DRAWS NEARER. IN GENERAL  
HOWEVER, THIS EVOLUTION CURRENTLY SUPPORTS A REDEVELOPMENT OF  
PRECIPITATION ACROSS PARTS OF THE FORECAST AREA WEDNESDAY INTO  
THURSDAY. AN INTRUSION OF COLDER AIR INTO THE SYSTEM IS  
EXPECTED, PARTICULARLY AROUND THE WESTERN/SOUTHERN PERIPHERY OF  
THE CIRCULATION AND INTO THE OH VALLEY REGION WHERE H8 TEMPS DIP  
BELOW 0C. OF FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE IS THE WELL-ADVERTISED  
PATTERN SHIFT TOWARD COOLER, MORE SEASONABLE (HIGHS IN LOW-40S,  
LOWS AROUND FREEZING) TEMPERATURES FROM MID-WEEK ON. OF LOWER  
CONFIDENCE IS THE POTENTIAL FOR THE FIRST WET SNOW FLAKES OF THE  
SEASON TO OCCUR ACROSS SOME PART OF THE FORECAST AREA LATER  
WEDNESDAY INTO THURSDAY IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE DEEPENING LOW,  
THOUGH CURRENT ENSEMBLES SUGGEST GREATER POTENTIAL FOR POSSIBLY  
ACCUMULATING SNOWS MAY BE EAST/SOUTHEAST OF OUR AREA.  
 
RATZER  
 
 
   
AVIATION /18Z TAFS THROUGH 00Z MONDAY/  
 
ISSUED AT 1203 PM CST SAT NOV 16 2024  
 
THE MAIN AVIATION WEATHER CONCERNS FOR THE 18Z TAF PERIOD  
INCLUDE:  
 
* CONTINUED MVFR WITH UNCERTAINTY IN TIMING OF A RETURN TO VFR  
 
AN EXPANSIVE MVFR DECK BLANKETS A BIG PORTION OF THE MIDWEST  
LATE THIS MORNING, AND CHICAGOLAND IS NO EXCEPTION. THERE IS A  
CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF UNCERTAINTY AS TO WHEN CONDITIONS WILL  
RETURN TO VFR. VISIBLE SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS THIS OVERCAST  
DECK HAS RECENTLY BEGUN TO GRADUALLY BREAK APART. WHILE THERE IS  
REASON TO BELIEVE THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY SCATTER OUT BY LATE  
THIS AFTERNOON, THE MUCH STRONGER SIGNAL SUPPORTS MVFR HOLDING  
STEADY FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE DAY. LATER THIS EVENING INTO  
TONIGHT IS WHERE CONFIDENCE REALLY BEGINS TO DROP. AT LEAST  
SCATTERED SUB-3KFT COVERAGE IS ANTICIPATED THROUGH THE PERIOD,  
BUT BEST GUESS IS THAT THE MVFR WILL PREVAIL THROUGH TONIGHT AND  
THE BETTER PART OF TOMORROW. IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT THERE HAS  
BEEN A RECENT TREND AMONG MODEL GUIDANCE IN FAVOR OF VFR  
RETURNING AROUND MID-MORNING OR SO TOMORROW. DIDN'T THINK THIS  
SIGNAL WAS STRONG OR PERSISTENT ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY REMOVING MVFR  
FROM THE TAF AT THIS POINT.  
 
MEANWHILE, SSE WINDS AROUND 10 TO 15 KT MAY CONTINUE TO GUST TO  
AROUND 20 KT THROUGH THE DAY. DIRECTION WILL GRADUALLY VEER  
DURING THE EVENING PUSHING WEST OF SOUTH LATE IN THE EVENING.  
WINDS ACTUALLY LOOK TO INCREASE A FEW TICS FOR THE TONIGHT  
PERIOD WITH SSW GUSTS TO 20 TO AS HIGH AS 25 KT EXPECTED. EXPECT  
SW WINDS WITH GUSTS TO NEAR 20 KT DURING THE DAY TOMORROW.  
 
DOOM  
 
 
   
LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES  
 
IL...NONE.  
IN...NONE.  
LM...SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY FROM 6 PM THIS EVENING TO 3 AM CST SUNDAY  
FOR WINTHROP HARBOR TO WILMETTE HARBOR IL.  
 
 
 
 
 
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