536  
FXUS63 KLOT 180524  
AFDLOT  
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION  
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO/ROMEOVILLE, IL  
1124 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
   
KEY MESSAGES
 
 
- AREAS OF FOG ARE POSSIBLE OVERNIGHT, GENERALLY WEST OF THE  
CHICAGO METRO.  
 
- PERIODS OF RAIN ARE EXPECTED MONDAY THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING  
ALONG WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE OF THUNDERSTORMS MONDAY NIGHT.  
 
- ANOTHER SYSTEM WILL MOVE IN WEDNESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY WITH  
ADDITIONAL CHANCES FOR PRECIPITATION, AND POSSIBLY THE FIRST  
WET SNOWFLAKES OF THE SEASON.  
 
- A COLDER AIR MASS WILL SETTLE IN LATE NEXT WEEK WITH MORNING  
LOW TEMPERATURES AT OR BELOW FREEZING.  
 

 
   
UPDATE
 
 
ISSUED AT 914 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
OVERALL THE PREVAILING FORECAST REMAINS ON TRACK THROUGH MONDAY  
WITH VERY LITTLE CHANGES MADE THIS EVENING.  
 
THE EARLIER BAND OF SHOWERS/SPRINKLES CONTINUES TO DISSIPATE AS  
THE UPPER-LEVEL SHORTWAVE AND ASSOCIATED JET STREAK OVER  
NORTHERN IL PIVOTS INTO LOWER MI. THUS, EXPECT PRECIPITATION TO  
CONCLUDE WITHIN THE NEXT HOUR. HOWEVER, A WEAK FRONTAL BOUNDARY  
IS BEGINNING TO STALL ACROSS THE AREA WHICH WILL SERVE AS THE  
BREEDING GROUND FOR FOG TONIGHT INTO EARLY MONDAY MORNING. WHILE  
THE GREATEST FOG POTENTIAL CONTINUES TO BE FOR AREAS IN FAR  
NORTHERN AND NORTHWESTERN IL, THERE IS A GROWING CONCERN THAT  
SOME PATCHY FOG COULD DEVELOP AS FAR SOUTH AS I-80 IF SUFFICIENT  
CLEARING OF THE CLOUDS CAN OCCUR. THAT SAID, HAVE EXPANDED THE  
PATCHY FOG MENTION TO INCLUDE AREAS ALONG AND NORTH OF I-80 TO  
ACCOUNT FOR THIS POTENTIAL. IN TERMS OF VISIBILITY, GUIDANCE HAS  
STARTED TO BACK OFF ON THE COVERAGE OF DENSE FOG TONIGHT DUE TO  
AN ADDED UNCERTAINTY WITH A STRATUS DECK LIFTING OUT OF  
NORTHEAST MO. THOUGH, THERE REMAINS A GOOD SIGNAL (40- 50%  
CHANCE) FOR WIDESPREAD 4 TO 6 MILE VISIBILITIES WITH LOCALIZED  
POCKETS OF VISIBILITIES UNDER 2 MILES PARTICULARLY IN NORTHWEST  
IL. SINCE THE FORECAST VISIBILITIES ARE STILL ABOVE THE  
THRESHOLD FOR A DENSE FOG ADVISORY WILL PLAN TO HOLD OFF ON A  
HEADLINE FOR NOW, BUT WILL KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON TRENDS.  
 
ASIDE FROM THE FOG, TEMPERATURES TONIGHT WILL VARY FROM NORTH  
TO SOUTH DUE TO THE STALLED FRONT. THAT SAID, AREAS IN FAR  
NORTHERN IL CAN EXPECT OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE MID TO UPPER 30S  
WHILE THE REST OF THE AREA SEES READINGS IN THE MID-40S. HEADING  
INTO MONDAY, THE FOG WILL ERODE BY MID-MORNING AS WINDS BEGIN  
TO INCREASE AHEAD OF OUR NEXT STORM SYSTEM. WHILE THE STRONGEST  
WINDS SHOULD HOLD OFF UNTIL MONDAY EVENING, SOUTHEASTERLY GUSTS  
OF 20-25 MPH ARE EXPECTED FOR MONDAY AFTERNOON. FURTHERMORE,  
RAIN CHANCES WILL ALSO BE INCREASING THROUGH THE DAY AS THE  
SYSTEMS WARM ADVECTION WING PIVOTS THROUGH. DESPITE THE RAIN AND  
ASSOCIATED CLOUD COVER, TEMPERATURES STILL LOOK TO WARM INTO  
THE MID TO UPPER 50S MONDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
YACK  
 

 
   
DISCUSSION
 
 
ISSUED AT 146 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
THROUGH MONDAY NIGHT:  
 
A WEAK COLD FRONTAL BOUNDARY WILL SAG INTO THE AREA TONIGHT AND  
LIKELY BECOME THE FOCUS FOR SOME FOG DEVELOPMENT GENERALLY WEST  
OF THE METRO AREA AND NORTH OF I-80. CONFIDENCE REMAINS LOW FOR  
HOW WIDESPREAD THE FOG MAY BECOME AS WELL AS HOW LOW  
VISIBILITIES MAY DROP BUT WITH LIGHT WINDS AND AT LEAST PARTIAL  
CLEARING ACROSS THE NORTH, THE SET-UP FOR FOG LOOKS DECENT GIVEN  
THE FRONTAL BOUNDARY LOCATION. TRENDS WILL NEED TO BE MONITORED  
INTO TONIGHT FOR REFINEMENT.  
 
THERE MAY ALSO BE A FEW SHOWERS OR SPRINKLES THIS AFTERNOON INTO  
THIS EVENING. MOST AREAS WILL PROBABLY REMAIN DRY BUT HAVE  
CONTINUED LOW CHANCE POPS FOR THIS POTENTIAL WHICH MAY GET INTO  
THE I-80 CORRIDOR BY EARLY EVENING AND THEN PRECIP CHANCES  
APPEAR TO END FOR THE REST OF TONIGHT. LOW TEMPS ARE BIT TRICKY  
TONIGHT, POSSIBLY DROPPING INTO THE MID 30S ACROSS THE NORTHWEST  
CWA TO MID TO POSSIBLY UPPER 40S ACROSS THE SOUTHERN CWA WITH  
EXPECTED CLOUD COVER REMAINING IN THESE AREAS.  
 
AS LOW PRESSURE LIFTS NORTH ACROSS THE CENTRAL PLAINS MONDAY, AN  
AREA OF LIGHT RAIN OR SHOWERS IS EXPECTED TO MOVE ACROSS THE  
LOCAL AREA AHEAD OF A WARM FRONT. STILL SOME UNCERTAINTY FOR THE  
EASTERN EXTENT OF THIS PRECIP, NORTHWEST IN COULD REMAIN FAIRLY  
DRY, BUT PRECIP IS EXPECTED TO LIFT NORTH THROUGH CENTRAL IL IN  
THE MID MORNING AND THEN ACROSS NORTHERN IL DURING THE EARLY/MID  
AFTERNOON. OVERALL, THIS PRECIPITATION LOOKS TO BE FAIRLY LIGHT,  
MAYBE A FEW TENTHS OF AN INCH ACROSS THE WESTERN CWA. THERE WILL  
LIKELY BE A BREAK IN THE PRECIP, PERHAPS RATHER SHORT IN  
DURATION, IN THE LATE AFTERNOON, BEFORE ANOTHER ROUND OF SHOWERS  
MOVES ACROSS THE AREA MONDAY NIGHT. MODELS SHOW A NARROW AXIS  
OF PRECIPITABLE WATER VALUES IN THE 1.5 INCH RANGE MOVING ACROSS  
THE AREA MONDAY EVENING AS SURFACE DEWPOINTS CLIMB INTO THE MID  
TO UPPER 50S. WITH SOME WEAK INSTABILITY, BOTH ISOLATED  
THUNDERSTORMS AND LOCALIZED HEAVY RAIN WILL BE POSSIBLE MONDAY  
EVENING AND HAVE ADDED SLIGHT CHANCE THUNDER WITH THIS FORECAST.  
SCATTERED SHOWERS WILL LIKELY CONTINUE INTO THE PREDAWN HOURS  
EARLY TUESDAY MORNING.  
 
WINDS WILL TURN SOUTHEASTERLY MONDAY MORNING AND SLOWLY INCREASE  
THROUGH THE DAY WITH GUSTS INTO THE 25-30 MPH RANGE POSSIBLE BY  
EARLY MONDAY EVENING. WHILE THERE REMAINS UNCERTAINTY FOR HOW  
STRONG THE WINDS WILL BECOME MONDAY NIGHT, BOTH THE GRADIENT AND  
THE LOW LEVEL WINDS WOULD SUGGEST WIND GUSTS INTO THE 35 MPH  
RANGE WILL BE POSSIBLE, PERHAPS A FEW HIGHER GUSTS AT TIMES.  
WINDS MAY MAY DIMINISH SOME OVERNIGHT/EARLY TUESDAY MORNING AS  
THEY BEGIN TO TURN MORE SOUTHERLY. ALSO FOR MONDAY NIGHT, TEMPS  
ARE LIKELY TO STAY FAIRLY MILD, LIKELY IN THE 50S. CMS  
 
TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY:  
 
LINGERING SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE THROUGH TUESDAY MORNING,  
PARTICULARLY CLOSER TO THE LAKE. HOWEVER, MUCH OF THE AREA IS  
EXPECTED TO HAVE DRIER CONDITIONS AS THE LOW IS PROJECTED TO  
CONTINUE ITS TRACK AWAY TO THE NORTHEAST. SOUTH TO SOUTHEAST  
WINDS WILL GRADUALLY VEER TO THE SOUTHWEST BEHIND THE FRONT AND  
STAY BREEZY THROUGH THE MORNING, BEFORE DIMINISHING IN THE  
AFTERNOON.  
 
AN UPPER LEVEL LONG WAVE TROUGH OVER THE NORTHERN PLAINS IS  
EXPECTED TO DIG SOUTHEASTWARD AND DEEPEN WEDNESDAY THROUGH  
THURSDAY. AS IT DOES, A SURFACE LOW WILL DEVELOP NEAR THE  
CENTRAL GREAT LAKES, PIVOTING AROUND SLIGHTLY BEFORE MOVING OVER  
NEW ENGLAND LATE IN THE WEEK. THE CANADIAN AND EURO MODELS HAVE  
SLOWLY STARTED TO SHOW BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE SURFACE LOW  
FORMATION, WHILE THE GEFS REMAINS FARTHER NORTH AND EAST OF THE  
AREA, LIMITING CONFIDENCE AT THIS TIME. THERE STILL REMAINS  
QUESTIONS HOW EXACTLY THE UPPER LEVEL WAVE WILL PHASE WITH THE  
PREVIOUS SHORT WAVE AS IT MOVES EAST.  
 
NEVERTHELESS, AS THE 500 MB WAVE MOVES OVER THE REGION ON  
WEDNESDAY, IT IS PROJECTED TO HAVE A STRONG JET STREAK  
ASSOCIATED WITH IT, WHOSE LEFT EXIT REGION SHOULD PASS OVER THE  
AREA TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SYNOPTIC LIFT. WITH TEMPERATURES  
STILL ABOVE FREEZING WEDNESDAY MORNING, THE FIRST CHANCES FOR  
PRECIPITATION ARE EXPECTED TO BE IN FORM OF RAIN. HOWEVER, WITH  
BETTER COLD AIR ADVECTION ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE TROUGH, IT IS  
LIKELY THAT BY WEDNESDAY NIGHT INTO THURSDAY MORNING 850 MB  
TEMPERATURES ARE AT OR BELOW -5C AND A 20 TO 30 PERCENT CHANCE  
FOR 850 MB TEMPS DOWN TO -10C. PERIODS OF RAIN/SHOWERS MAY  
BECOME MIXED WITH WET SNOW ACROSS MUCH OF THE AREA WEDNESDAY  
NIGHT INTO EARLY THURSDAY. AS THE UPPER LOW MOVES EAST OF THE  
AREA THURSDAY, LINGERING PRECIP SHOULD SHIFT BACK TO ALL-LIQUID.  
STRONG WINDS ARE EXPECTED OUT OF THE WEST ON WEDNESDAY BEFORE  
BECOMING NORTHWESTERLY ON THURSDAY, INCREASING AS THE THE  
SURFACE LOW DEEPENS SETTING UP FOR A BREEZIER COUPLE OF DAYS.  
THERE IS LOWER CONFIDENCE IN THE MAXIMUM WIND SPEED DURING THIS  
TIME FRAME GIVEN THE UNCERTAINTY AROUND THE LOCATION AND DEPTH  
OF THE PRESSURE SYSTEM.  
 
AS THIS SYSTEM SLOWLY EXITS THE REGION FROM LATE THURSDAY INTO  
FRIDAY, PREVAILING NORTHWESTERLY FLOW WILL ALLOW LINGERING  
SHOWERS AROUND LAKE MICHIGAN. TEMPERATURES WILL REMAIN CHILLY  
WITH MORNING LOWS AT OR BELOW FREEZING THROUGH THE WEEKEND WITH  
HIGH TEMPERATURES ONLY REACHING THE LOW 40S.  
 
DK  
 

 
   
AVIATION /06Z TAFS THROUGH 12Z TUESDAY/
 
 
ISSUED AT 1124 PM CST SUN NOV 17 2024  
 
THE MAIN AVIATION WEATHER CONCERNS ARE:  
 
- BR/FG DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT. GREATEST CONCERN NEAR RFD AND DPA.  
 
- MVFR CIGS RE-DEVELOP LATE TONIGHT INTO MONDAY MORNING. FIRST  
BATCH OF RAIN ARRIVES MIDDAY INTO MONDAY AFTERNOON.  
 
- SECOND BATCH OF RAIN, PERHAPS WITH SOME EMBEDDED TS, ARRIVES  
LATE MONDAY EVENING AND EARLY OVERNIGHT.  
 
- TRANSITION TO SHOWERS/DRIZZLE AND LOW CLOUDS MONDAY NIGHT INTO  
TUESDAY MORNING.  
 
CLOUDS WILL CONTINUE TO ERODE FROM NORTH TO SOUTH LATE THIS  
EVENING. LIGHT WINDS AND LOW-LEVEL MOISTURE WILL SET THE STAGE  
FOR QUICK BR/FG DEVELOPMENT TONIGHT. THE MAIN FLY IN THE  
OINTMENT IS THE BATCH OF EXPANSIVE HIGH-MVFR TO VFR STRATUS  
SOUTH OF I-80 WHICH SHOULD VERY SLOWLY MEANDER NORTHWARD. IF  
THIS EXPANDS MORE QUICKLY THAN EXPECTED, THEN THE FOG THREAT  
WILL DIMINISH. THAT SAID, SATELLITE AND OBSERVATION TRENDS  
SUGGEST VSBYS ARE TANKING QUICKLY AS CLOUDS CLEAR. THE WORST  
CONDITIONS ARE CURRENTLY EXPECTED NEAR RFD, WHERE LIFR  
CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN TEMPOD TONIGHT. A MORE DIFFICULT FORECAST  
AT THE CHICAGO-AREA TERMINALS WHERE THE AFOREMENTIONED STRATUS  
DECK WILL BE VERY CLOSE. FOR NOW, HAVE MADE MINIMAL CHANGES TO  
THE PREVIOUS FORECAST, EXCEPT TO LOWER VSBYS A BIT AT DPA.  
 
VSBYS WILL IMPROVE THROUGH MONDAY MORNING AS SOUTHEASTERLY WINDS  
INCREASE. MVFR CIGS WILL RE-DEVELOP AREA-WIDE. A BATCH OF  
SHOWERS WILL DEVELOP THROUGH ABOUT MIDDAY INTO THE LATE  
AFTERNOON, WITH A BRIEF PERIOD OF IFR VSBYS POSSIBLE.  
PRECIPITATION SHOULD THEN TREND MORE SPOTTY FOR A PERIOD BEFORE  
A SECOND BATCH OF RAIN ARRIVES LATE MONDAY EVENING. EMBEDDED TS  
WILL BE POSSIBLE AT THE LEADING EDGE OF THIS WAVE OF  
PRECIPITATION, ALTHOUGH CONFIDENCE IN THIS REMAINS A BIT TOO LOW  
FOR A MENTION IN THE TAFS. EVENTUALLY, PRECIP WILL TREND TOWARDS  
DRIZZLE INTO EARLY TUESDAY MORNING.  
 
LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS TONIGHT WILL BECOME SOUTHEASTERLY  
THROUGH MONDAY MORNING. THEY WILL THEN INCREASE STEADILY THROUGH  
LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING, WITH GUSTS TOWARDS 30 KNOTS  
POSSIBLE MONDAY NIGHT. WITH THE EXPECTED SURFACE GUSTS, HAVE  
LEFT OUT A MENTION OF LLWS AT ALL THE TERMINALS AT THIS TIME.  
 
CARLAW  
 

 
   
LOT WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES
 
 
IL...NONE.  
IN...NONE.  
LM...NONE.  
 

 
 

 
 
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